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Skyler |
well.... ive been wanting to produce my own tunes for a while now.. and seeing as i can mix, and scratch ok.... i want to turn myself to creating tunes....
any general advice for pretty much a person who knows next to nothing about producing ??
it would be welcome :)
i checked out sunrize's site.. its nice but doesnt really give me the sort of help i need :)
"You know given the choice I'd gladly take your hand for ev-er, and a day..
You know the words, just say it...
Its as the nights grow colder I still cry these bittersweet tears...
While I hope and pray..
that we'll somehow make it.."
- Skyler
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Soren |
I would say to try and get some software and try it out b4 you buy Hardware. Like Cubase, Cakewalk, or Reason (if you have a friend with them they are ummm... really cheap ;). Then if you like it get a sampler and a synth.
For synth get a Novation Nova or Supernova (Or Access Virus if you can find one). And for sampler either a Yamaha A3000,A4000,A5000 or an EMU Ultra (either the 6400 or 4XT depending on budget).
That's my advice, but I haven't produced anything so I don't know how much it's worth :) I do have friends that produce and I have asked a ton of questions on boards and stuff and those are the answers I get most of the time for advice on getting started ^_^
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phosphor |
http://www.nuenergy.co.uk/safensound has a pile of decent info on both MIDI and Audio production (thx to Sharkey and K-Komplex ;) As far as i'm concerned Soren is bang on with what he's saying. Start with software, even try a tracker program (Fruityloops is damn good, also Mod Plug, FastTracker, or Impulse Tracker) - i started out as a FastTracker ho ;) Start cheap .. figure out what you want for yer sound .. and what genere you'll stick to ... cause that will determine alot of the gear you get .. For gear a sampler is essential ... I have a yamaha A3000..it's decent ..my next one ... and there will be a second one .. will be an EMU i'm certain .. The Supernova is a beautiful peice of gear... the Nord Modular is another of my fave's (better than the Nord Lead i feel - more diverse). If you can grab some older analoguish gear .. like a roland Juno106 or and Alpha 2 .. just to get that phat dirty bass they put out. the Roland JV series is also quite good for all yer basic wav-table synth sounds ... (pianos, strings, etc ) A couple other good gear lists are Scott Browns: http://www.evolutionrecords.co.uk/studio.htm and Next Gen's: http://www.nextgenerationrecords.co.uk/studio.html and ya .. mine .. http://bounce.to/phosphor Cheerz! Dan aka phosphor / phaXs |
Soren |
Wow!! Thanx again Phosphor!!! Those links are cool!! Mmmmm.... Scott Browns Studio...... wwwaaahhhaarrrr.....
Hmmm... I just looked at your studio also. Cool!!! But now me has some questions. I have been waiting to get a Virus Indigo for about 6 months now and I don't think I will get it any time soon. Should I keep my money there you think? Or should I just give in and get a Supernova II Rack? Also I noticed like many ppl you have a Juno 106 and other synths. Do you consider the Juno 106 to be neccessary? Can you emulate the sounds of a Juno with a Supernova or Virus, or is it completely unique? Also I heard that Novation came out with a new patch that allows you to automatically add more detuned voices to a patch making it much phatter, is that true? I know this is already an option on the Virus. If it is true does it add a lot to the Novation products? DOes it work good? Thanks!!! Sorry so many questions ^_^
Edited by - soren on 17 Apr 2001 11:59:03 |
Skyler |
thanks for that....
I have cubase 5.... and fastracker...
but i find both fairly hard to use...
as i have no manual.... *cough* warez *cough*
anywhere theres a guide for cubase 5?
i also have the demo of reason... which is good i used that ok...
but still have not found warez ver of it :)
"You know given the choice I'd gladly take your hand for ev-er, and a day..
You know the words, just say it...
Its as the nights grow colder I still cry these bittersweet tears...
While I hope and pray..
that we'll somehow make it.."
- Skyler
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Skyler |
also anyone got any urls for accapella warez samples?
:)
they would be a help too
"You know given the choice I'd gladly take your hand for ev-er, and a day..
You know the words, just say it...
Its as the nights grow colder I still cry these bittersweet tears...
While I hope and pray..
that we'll somehow make it.."
- Skyler
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Soren |
I'd like to get a ruling on wether it's ok to post warez links before I put anything up. Silver??? But i'm pretty sure if you can't post MP3 links you can't post warez links either ^_^
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Sander |
I have also lot of questions but they will come later :)
Here are some usefull links:
http://www.vintagesynth.com - If you are looking for information about a synth.. here you can find it. You can also hear sounds and maybe see the manual http://www.futureproducers.com - Special forums about samplers, home studios, synths etc. And also reviews and tutorials about hardware and software ------------- * Ok gabbers from Italy and Holland, it's time for a ******* war, so join the army of hardcore and clap your hands to this * Edited by - Sander on 18 Apr 2001 11:36:54 |
Skyler |
soren ok.... dont post them....
email me them if you have any :) [email protected] is the addy :)
would be nice if you could do that :)
"You know given the choice I'd gladly take your hand for ev-er, and a day..
You know the words, just say it...
Its as the nights grow colder I still cry these bittersweet tears...
While I hope and pray..
that we'll somehow make it.."
- Skyler
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silver |
Sorry to be the tight ass policeman here but don't post warez or MP3 links please :) |
Skyler |
nah silver your not being tight ass... i understand that ;)
should of given email addy earlier in the post methinks:)
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Sander |
Little bit off topic but I'm proberly buying my first synth, the roland juno 106
What is the price of a used juno 106? I think about 300 dollars?
Tomorrow I will call for the price but first I want to be sure
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Soren |
Unless it's in super awesome condition I wouldn't pay more than $400 for a Juno 106. I have seen them go for anywhere from $300-$600. The average price off one site that has logged about 40 Juno 106 sales is $414.
And Skyler I will email you when I get home from work in about 7 hours ^_^
Edited by - soren on 23 Apr 2001 10:09:56 |
Skyler |
nice 1 soren :))
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Soren |
Sorry, my DSL is down at home and I need to go to my firends FTP site to get the URL's for you.... Hopefully it will be ok tonight ^_^
I do my best :)
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Sander |
Thanx Soren!
I've called the shop and the price they ask is $450. But he said it was in a very good edition (only a little bit dust ;) and if I buy I also have some guarantee. Before I called 400 was my limit but I think I will do it. I have seen them cheaper but this is a shop, and I trust them more then a regular person
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StrifeII |
If i were you, i'd buy dance eJay 2 for software. I have a post in the same forum on it. Check it out Skyler! Ya wont regret it!
- ChromaH
nowi'mfeelin'fine |
silver |
Like I said in the other post, if you use dance Ejay you have to give half your royalities to that company. |
Skyler |
hehe dance ejay yeah ive had those ages.... easy ... boring.... not good enough sounds.... just eurodance style all the time....
no variations...
i want to create my own... not layout someone elses stuff :P
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StrifeII |
Don't use the samples they give u.
Use your own, but use the loops+bass (i do) i only really use it as a sequencer
nowi'mfeelin'fine |
peteself |
pls can someone let me know where I can get a ** edit** from thanx
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Dj Matt Strukcha |
Ok forget mixing, scratching and buying software - r u musically clued?
Do u understand the basicis of music - and if u can play music - can u compose they r 2 totally different things to be honest - if u can go for a version of Cuebase or if ur on a budget Cuebasis - Also check out fruity loops - u'll need a midi keyboard to - I mite have a coupla versions of fruity loops I can send to u via e-mail but If u want cuebase I'm not risking getting aressted - u can buy it! lol.
Ok thats the very minimum u'll need also a half decent soundcard prefferablly not Sound Blaster either!
Dj Matt Strukcha
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What can you do? |
reasonpirate |
*edit*
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Soren |
LOL, that's just funny... 2 people offering stolen software, and 1 trying to make huge profit off it. Sad.
Oh yeah, BTW if anyone wants any programs at all just send me $80 and I'll go get it for you off *edit* and burn it to a 27 cent disk and send it too you without a manual!!! Just email me at:
**EDITED BY MODERATOR**
Thanks all, and good profit taking off stolen software forever!!!
"It felt... like I was in a long, dark tunnel"
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DJ_FunDaBounce |
sander
what exactly are you hopin to get out of the juno 106?
I have one myself and if what your lookin 4 is nice ruff stabs I would suggest you get an alpha instead.
PrEshA fLiP B Da BouNciEst CanDyFliP!! |
djmonoxide |
Soren don't use *edir* it is bad. It is the hackers handy tool. Easiest way to get hacked is to use *edit*. All hackers have to do is start downloading something from you (or vice versa) then they go into MS-DOS promt and type ****** (I don't think I am allowed to type it, also I'm not gonna be responsible when you get thrown in jail for tryin' it ) and they got yer IP.
quote: Originally posted by Soren:
LOL, that's just funny... 2 people offering stolen software, and 1 trying to make huge profit off it. Sad.
Oh yeah, BTW if anyone wants any programs at all just send me $80 and I'll go get it for you off *edit* and burn it to a 27 cent disk and send it too you without a manual!!! Just email me at:
**EDITED BY MODERATOR**
Thanks all, and good profit taking off stolen software forever!!!
"It felt... like I was in a long, dark tunnel"
I used to be a raver, used to take lots of E. Now I just smoke weed, and you know I will Succeed. :) |
Padre |
or u could try *edit* which is spyware free :D
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StrifeII |
*edir* is the dogs b0llocks, pity about the hacking stuff. Is it *edit* the same thing but without the spyware, padres?
Hardcore Will Never Die |