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JerryInTheCosmos High People!
I am tryin 2 find the right traditional oldskool happy-synths
to make a bit of stuff this colorful oldskool way of the 90s... :)

Does anyone know where I can find sampelz or tools
2 make this spacy synths from the past?

I'am producing for about 4 years now - more the techno
way but i now wanna find some new influences in happy
sound... :D
my producin' tool: MPT vs. VST vs. selfmade sampelz (...or
effect-machine stuff like i ask for now :p)

thnx forward
JITC

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StrifeII i have a lot from the phase 4 site, but most of its down, send us yer email an i'll zip em and send em to ya...or even better r u on msn?

Hardcore Will Never Die
JerryInTheCosmos Sounds good @ robbie ---> I have also added u in ICQ so
when ya're online the next time we can talk about those
thingz

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StrifeII Yeah i know...just got it as a matter of fact. If you could send me something trancey or a vsti i would love it but its fine if u just want the stabs.

-Robbie Jay
Lusive get something like ReFX JunoX2 VSTi (latest version is 1.4)

its a VST synth designed to be emulate a roland juno.

that or get Native Instruments Absynth, which can do almost anything you want, its complicated but very nice! :)

| A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handy |
Padre i second that.
The junox2 vsti is quite a sh!tty lookin app, but pump thru a nice set of monitors, and its very very fat...
some really nice patches there, check out the patch called "whered u go?"
hehehehe
i spent days creating that sound on theJP8k and it was there all along.. :( LOL
quite afew different filters filter, with combinations as well.
dont let teh look of it fool you :)

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For we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams - Willy Wonka

www.letdabasskick.homestead.com

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Oli G native instruments pro 52 is wicked for trancey stuff
also triangle and model e
give them a blend


Garage Is where You Keep Your ****in Car
House Is where You Live
Hardcore Is HOW You Live

\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
Padre triangle 2 is out now too :) really nice...

also PPG wave is an awsome synth, its a wavetable monster :)

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For we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams - Willy Wonka

www.letdabasskick.homestead.com

www.austech.info
StrifeII I got the juno X2, its brilliant, i dont really want to be bothered with complicated instruments cos you can get just as good stuff out of the pre-made stuff.
Can anybody recommend me :-

A good hardcore drum synth (Currently just the lm-7 and lm-9)
and
A good oldskoolish piano synth (currently using Mda Piano)

-Robbie Jay
Padre hmm drum synth...

stictly in asynth sense, i would have to say Orions drum module, practically identical to a 909, but for HC id say add a bit of a distortion... with the amount of VST plugs available, dead easy to find i can email you afew.

Ni Battery for a strict cell based loop sampler.
its a great lil multitimbral sampler, where you fill the "cells" with hits and loops, then trigger via midi.. VSTi or standalone :)

it works a lil like a rackmount sampler, where your literally creating your own drum bank... great lil pitch and envelope functions too..

lemme know if u want em.. i can email them :)
minimum 6 mb...

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For we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams - Willy Wonka

www.letdabasskick.homestead.com

www.austech.info
Nick of Blaze! Very briefly, here's a few synths that were in my studio (and still are actually) and also in the Suburban Base studio waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in about 1991-1993 from what I remember.


Korg M-1 Nice synth, I use mine as a mother keyboard now, but this is one of THE piano sounds you're looking for. Also nice for fat backing pads.


Jupiter 6 This is my machine for those fat stabs. It's the UNISON function that detunes the oscillators to give that stab sound, couple with the cross mod function. Also has portomento which gives those wonderful old skool slides between notes.


Juno 106 this is much the ssame as above but maybe not as fat. Never owned one, only tinkered so thats my opinion.


U220 module. Those huge uplifting strings in Sesame Street? Step forward U220. A friend of mine had a U220 and U110 for sale I got the pair for £250. And they had the priginal patch config, so they're a bargain. Also, this synth has that bell sound made popular in so many Prodigy tracks. (Out of Space)


JD800 Austin Reynolds (gawd bless him) swore by this, and this is where the Far Out piano came from. You'll also hear loads of backing sounds from this all over the subbase stuff.


SH101 Has a VCF that plummets right down to -12 if I remember rightly, which gives those really nice basses. The TB303 went even lower, thats why they're so popular.


TB303 Originally intended for cabaret artists to accompany their DR606 drum box, this soon became a cult machine. Basses were never the same again. If you live in Oz, get a retrofit. Mail Luna C, he has one it's the bomb.

TR909 No need to explain, BUT... sample the kick in an S1000 etc and keep normalising it to get one of those fat kicks like on hams "sailaway".


TR808 For the cowbell, rimshot and clap only really. Nice machine though.


http://www.vintagesynth.org/


Nice site. They have most of the original manuals, audio snips and sometimes, original factory presets.



There's loads more, but all these (barring the TR3030/909) can be picked up relatively cheap.


BE WARNED WHEN BUYING !!!!!

ALWAYS check the internal bartteries, they can be expensive to replace on some synths. (Not the battery itself, but the taking apart of the synth itself). You could be looking at £50 on top of the price.


Check the audio outs. Older D/A outs and some jack sockets have a tendency to crackle.


Check all the pots and switches. Turn them , make sure they dont crackle and pop too much.




Cheers guys


Nick.




Padre oh man detuning...
THIS is waht has made techno...
in all forms...

thre are quite afew ways to emulate teh fatnes that be, but if ur lucky enuff to have a JP, it actaully has a supersaw OSC which allows for stupid amounts of detuning:) , now, if u have a Yam A series sampler, this allows you to detune the sound also...

i been doin some wierd shit on the JP.
Im using a supersaw osc1, but im using a had tri LFO1, being routed to the filter, now the LFO is triggered by velocity, and the delay gain is triggered by the filter. so when the filter reaches my set threshhold it launches the delay... now this is all controlled by the tempo synced LFO.
Now as the velocity triggeres the lfo, i can mess with the LFO rate and depth and the velocities by using the ribbon controller. The chord is still being played by my sequencer. So u can imagine the organised chaos this brings :)
so we got ...
velo--> lfo--> filter--> delay
now.. yeah it goes on... theres more to it... the second oscilator is actually synced to the first, but the second is using a widened pulswidth, now when u mess with the widening and bring it down tight, u get that hard synth sound... BUT the beuaty of the JP, is that you can cros modulate the 2 oscilators according to the depth of LFO 1. this Osciltor common section is quite extraordinary...
u have a seperate envelope for the cross modulation, and a different depth for each osc. Now the depth can be adjusted for each osc, so u can have osc 1 a lil weak, and osc 2 full ball...
now, when u raise the LFO, the cross mod depth rasies, and THATS when you get a hard on...

good fun!!!

forget hoover, were talkin industrial waste cleaner here... ;)

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For we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams - Willy Wonka

www.letdabasskick.homestead.com

www.austech.info
JerryInTheCosmos ****in much information people :D

i got already the absynth one but its not really the way i thought of midnintysynthesis :p --- but it's oké...

thus' vst-synthz suck cause i use da good old tracker -> modplug worx also this way but that ... *** ... :p

i am more looking for samplez - kind of this way putting fx over

thx - jitc

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Padre dude, no sound source sucks :)

okies, u use trackers right (fuggin mad IMO and thats how i started off..)
FYI if u want a tracker in a box, check out the RM1x :)

okies, ur after samples, dude, VSTis are it..
i use VSTis to create multisamples which i throiw into the a3k

u can use vstis to creat ur waves that u use in the trackers :)

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For we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams - Willy Wonka

www.letdabasskick.homestead.com

www.austech.info

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