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 Flawless ft. ZoeVanWest - Hold You In My Heart

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_Jay_ Heard this for the first time twenty minutes ago. Seriously good! The first fifty seconds or so is just unbelievable. Makes me smile so fcuking much!!

http://soundcloud.com/flawless-hardcore/flawless-feat-zoevanwest-hold

Edit: NOW AVAILABLE: http://www.trackitdown.net/track/flawless-feat-zoe-van-west/hold-you-in-my-heart-original-mix/hardcore/4652360.html

YouTube:

djDMS Nice find mate, pretty tasty bit of cheese there!
_Jay_ Really, really tasty. Can't stop listening to it.
rafferty Is a great tune, but production sounds very dated. It's like the old raverbaby sound from 5 years ago. I would have bought it back then, but not now.
Claxton I like it. Just listened to his other tracks and they're all in a similar style. I think there's a massive demand for this kind of hardcore at the minute.


Just stumbled across this when browsing soundcloud :O

http://soundcloud.com/bendefekt/defekt-stars-fall

WOW!! Love that!
_Jay_
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Is a great tune, but production sounds very dated. It's like the old raverbaby sound from 5 years ago. I would have bought it back then, but not now.



I don't know if it does sound 'dated' as such, to me. I don't have anything approaching a professional ear, though - so maybe it does. I like the style it's been produced in. Really like it. I do actually massively prefer the Hardcore from five years ago as well.

Beeferchiefer Love it. If cheese is on the menu, this is how I like it!
_Jay_ It is so, so good! I wasn't able to listen to it all day - came home and played it about twenty times. Ahh it just gets better and better!
Be Happy Really liking this tune. Zoe Van west has some great vocals on Synthwulf's Rising To Paradise as well.
rafferty
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Is a great tune, but production sounds very dated. It's like the old raverbaby sound from 5 years ago. I would have bought it back then, but not now.



I don't know if it does sound 'dated' as such, to me. I don't have anything approaching a professional ear, though - so maybe it does. I like the style it's been produced in. Really like it. I do actually massively prefer the Hardcore from five years ago as well.





Not taking anything away from Flawless, they do have a bright future in Hardcore judging by how good their production is on this tune.
I've just noticed the old hard trance string is being used less in dance music in general. I do like it, but find it was a little over used as good as it sounds.

I prefer the way hardcore is going now compared to the 2000's, seems to be getting back to it's roots where it was more raw and experimental.

Guess this is what I mean by more the current sound going around with alot more filtering, reverb in the leads with plenty of drops throughout the track.

Dj HAM - ANYTHING FOR YOU
http://soundcloud.com/djham/ham-anything-for-you

PORTER ROBINSON - LANGUAGE (NIX EDIT)
http://soundcloud.com/nix-8/porter-robinson-languages-nix

MICHAEL SCOUT - SHAPES
http://soundcloud.com/michaelscout/michael-scout-shapes
whispering I kinda like it.

quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Is a great tune, but production sounds very dated.



...figured.
_Jay_
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Not taking anything away from Flawless, they do have a bright future in Hardcore judging by how good their production is on this tune.

I've just noticed the old hard trance string is being used less in dance music in general. I do like it, but find it was a little over used as good as it sounds.

I prefer the way hardcore is going now compared to the 2000's, seems to be getting back to it's roots where it was more raw and experimental.

Guess this is what I mean by more the current sound going around with alot more filtering, reverb in the leads with plenty of drops throughout the track.

Dj HAM - ANYTHING FOR YOU
http://soundcloud.com/djham/ham-anything-for-you

PORTER ROBINSON - LANGUAGE (NIX EDIT)
http://soundcloud.com/nix-8/porter-robinson-languages-nix

MICHAEL SCOUT - SHAPES
http://soundcloud.com/michaelscout/michael-scout-shapes



Yeah, I hear ya man. And I do understand/appreciate the different kind of sound that is around at the moment. Anything For You is a magnificent piece of music, and NiX is a personal favourite of mine. I added that very tune to my SoundCloud favourites a few days ago.

I don't dislike the modern sound, at all. I like it. But I like more the 2000's sound. You've obviously got a much more acute production ear/understanding/vocabulary then I have, so all I can offer is the following description. As I said, I don't dislike the newer sound, but these are some of my opinions on it. I think it sounds a little too mechanical (if that makes sense). It chugs along in an almost momentum-killing way, and it doesn't sound as wholesome as stuff from a few years ago, or earlier. I liken the sound of it to when you're mixing, and you're too late in the mix, and all you've got playing are the later stages of the outro of the previous tune, and the early stages of the intro to the tune coming in - it just lacks a bit of umph.

I'll repeat, again: I do like very much the newer sound - but because of the differences I've tried to communicate above, I prefer slightly older stuff (or older-sounding stuff [with Hold You In My Heart being a good example]).



Karthy Sounds decent, will have a listen again tomorrow but a bit louder, girlfriends trying to sleep atm so I gotta keep it down! Definately worth another listen, agree with Rafferty about it sounding dated. It's true but it also sounds new at the same time, nothing particularly original or creative about it, heard it all before, but new cheese in a different melody is always good :P
_Jay_ Don't suppose anyone knows any release info about this one, do they?
Dartford-ravin-crew It was released on monday!!

Available here Trackitdown.net
Charger It's got the lead sounds of classic hands up ('04 - '07 era) which is definitely what I would go for. :)

Quite a stomper too, I would say it'll be a good buy.
Gisbo rifftastic vocal epicness!
Claxton Bought this the other day! Very good track :D
HARRIBO
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Not taking anything away from Flawless, they do have a bright future in Hardcore judging by how good their production is on this tune.

I've just noticed the old hard trance string is being used less in dance music in general. I do like it, but find it was a little over used as good as it sounds.

I prefer the way hardcore is going now compared to the 2000's, seems to be getting back to it's roots where it was more raw and experimental.

Guess this is what I mean by more the current sound going around with alot more filtering, reverb in the leads with plenty of drops throughout the track.

Dj HAM - ANYTHING FOR YOU
http://soundcloud.com/djham/ham-anything-for-you

PORTER ROBINSON - LANGUAGE (NIX EDIT)
http://soundcloud.com/nix-8/porter-robinson-languages-nix

MICHAEL SCOUT - SHAPES
http://soundcloud.com/michaelscout/michael-scout-shapes



I think it sounds a little too mechanical (if that makes sense). It chugs along in an almost momentum-killing way, and it doesn't sound as wholesome as stuff from a few years ago, or earlier. I liken the sound of it to when you're mixing, and you're too late in the mix, and all you've got playing are the later stages of the outro of the previous tune, and the early stages of the intro to the tune coming in - it just lacks a bit of umph.




totally agree with this! also cracking tune cant wait til its out!
_Jay_
quote:
Originally posted by HARRIBO:
totally agree with this! also cracking tune cant wait til its out!



It's out now brother. Number 8 in the TID charts!

http://www.trackitdown.net/track/flawless-feat-zoe-van-west/hold-you-in-my-heart-original-mix/hardcore/4652360.html

http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=59230
Gisbo
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by HARRIBO:
totally agree with this! also cracking tune cant wait til its out!



It's out now brother. Number 8 in the TID charts!

http://www.trackitdown.net/track/flawless-feat-zoe-van-west/hold-you-in-my-heart-original-mix/hardcore/4652360.html

http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=59230



number 6 now :)

Gisbo number 5 in the chart now!

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