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Ultamate The new generation of Happy Hardcore has been a let down in my opinion, I mean come on. Bring on the OLD SKOOL!

Nemesis I dunno, i think it's evolving quite nicely!

You got whacked cuz your weak!
DJSuperb Well for a start its not even happy hardcore. Music has to evolve or a scene starts to die (period 1998-2000ish). The new UK style is amazing, so much feeling in the music, and imo most the new stuff is better produced. :)

12" of Love
atomicb I know how you feel, because I felt like this at first. I have loads of old skool classic vinyl (together forever, eyeopner, origonal heart of gold etc etc) and thaught he new stuff wasn't a patch on it.

But I gave it a chance, and now I love it, having just orderd and recived shin + wizzardy from NG and defintion of a bad boy from IMO.

The new stuff is defiantly more 'deep' and perhaps a little more serious compared to old skool happy hardcore (if you kno what I mean) Don't get me wrong I *love* the old stuff, but the new stuff is really growing on me. give it a chance ok? :)

noiz labs i agree i love the old stuff but i think theres little better than inovation. .. .. u cannot recapture somethi9ng that has already passed .. it would become stale. .. u can try but it will never b as good. so u need to move on.

fazza na i reckon the newer stuff is wkd. u cant have old skool forever man, things have gotta move on. i love proper happy hardcore man but it aint 1996 anymore. u just got 2 except that things change bud.

"I feel you, i want you, i know your touch is all i need, im waiting you're shining"
Hard2Get New HHC is as good now as it was before 98 imo, and anyway there is new Old Skool being produced, on KFA :)

Baby_Angel I prefer the older stuff, sy's old skool mix on bonkers 8 is boss!!

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Simon
quote:
Originally posted by DJSuperb:
and imo most the new stuff is better produced. :)



But in my oppinion I feel a lot of todays (new uk style tracks) are "over produced" if you know what I mean.

Sy.
Hard2Get
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But in my oppinion I feel a lot of todays (new uk style tracks) are "over produced" if you know what I mean.

I'm sure i would know what you mean but i am not fimilar with the term 'Over produced', although i have heard it used, could you please elaborate?

noiz labs wat is some good new hhc ???

bowzer depends what your lookin for - breaky? try kfa. harder? next gen/blatant beats. "nu style" sounding? evolution/evolution plus. trancy? raver & jelly baby

atomicb I'm really enjoying (and buying :)) the Evo and nex gen/bb stuff :) most of it's happy, but with a lovely new skool edge :)

But yes old skool is just that, old skool :) We need to move on, and new classics are being made, no-one is going to take the old ones away, and they'll still be classics sets - like the exllent sy one on bonkers 8 as someone mentioned :)

virus its funny when people call 'eye opener' old skool classic vinyl

"GREAT, JUST GREAT now hardcore will die! THANKS A BUNCH!!!"
number2301
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Originally posted by DJSuperb:
Well for a start its not even happy hardcore. Music has to evolve or a scene starts to die (period 1998-2000ish). The new UK style is amazing, so much feeling in the music, and imo most the new stuff is better produced. :)

12" of Love



Wow at least someone agrees with me :)

It aint Happy Hardcore! Its just Hardcore innit :)

And Happy isn't Old Skool, but I dont really wanna get into that at the moment.


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Simon
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I'm sure i would know what you mean but i am not fimilar with the term 'Over produced', although i have heard it used, could you please elaborate?



It's hard to explain but to me it seems the newer hardcore sound is missing something, the sounds are too "perfect" and the flow often to "Smooth" if you can see what I mean, It's bloody hard to explain. (Just listen to some older tunes then some newer tunes they just seem "over produced" kinda)

Sy.
virus o·ver·pro·duced

way too many filters and echos over top of everything

"GREAT, JUST GREAT now hardcore will die! THANKS A BUNCH!!!"
Hard2Get Yeah but i still think if the song is good (as in good meody) then it dosn't matter how overproduced it is, it will still be good :)

djstorm
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It's hard to explain but to me it seems the newer hardcore sound is missing something, the sounds are too "perfect" and the flow often to "Smooth"
Sy.
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thats not "over produced" thats well produced ...... big difference.

storm
djstorm doh ****ed the quote thing up there dammit!

storm
DJ Mouse take the slash out of the first [/quote] and you're sorted :)

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Simon
quote:
Originally posted by djstorm:
thats not "over produced" thats well produced ...... big difference.
storm




Ok then "It's Too Well Produced" if you get my drift :)


& I can use the quote properly :)
Only Joking :)

Sy.
strychnine ^^ oh, so you think the tracks aren't as good because they're too good?

Seriously, though, I understand what you're saying ... with the tracks sounding so clean it's almost easy to forget that this is supposed to be an underground scene, and our music just isn't meant to be produced to the same high standards as the more mainstream varieties, is it?

Honestly, it's a lose-lose situation for the producers here - pull off a half-assed effort and people say it isn't good enough, but work on it and produce it well and it becomes overproduced. What do you do?

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djyogi stuff breaks in hardcore and happy hardcore. all its goood for is break dancing.
Thats y breaks enver worked out so much in hardcore and happy haredcore cause it does nothing.

"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz
strychnine ^^ breaks add an extra dimension to hardcore, especially if the track's at the slower end of the spectrum. Me, I like a hard, fast kickdrum, but usually I wouldn't mind a bid of breaks action so long as it doesn't overpower the kick.

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