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Ultamate Scooter in my books have gone from a respectable team to nothing but a bunch of blokes laying down teeny bopper anthems

toxic did u grow up?

Whisper something nice, and ill make you scream twice !!!
Kaffine Scooter's always sucked O_o;

I mean, anyone who releases a CD called 'our happy hardcore'... ick.

ANd it's sickening because they defame our music by implying that they somehow 'share' in hardcore culture... or have talent... or somethign of the like...

DJSuperb but the've sold 10's of 1000's of CDs so they can't be that bad :)
I've neva classed em as hardcore but I still like em.

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strychnine ^^ I always classed 'em as hardcore, and liked 'em, until they went all trance. 'Our Happy Hardcore' was good IMO - just don't take it too seriously.

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Forty-two purple crayons
DJWOOWOO69 scooter is gr8. i dont no how u can diss them. thay r well smart

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toxic ^^^ its a forum and everyones entitled to their own opinions

btw, welcome aboard DJWOOWOO69

Whisper something nice, and ill make you scream twice !!!
Baby_Angel The only scooter song i like is Back in the UK, the rest jus make me laff!!

Roses are red, voilets are blue, im a schitzophrenic and so am i.....
number2301 Scooter have always been ****ing terrible IMO. Not real Hardcore at all!

And remember if S Club Juniors can make it in the charts anyone can lol!!!

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Number 2301 is godverdomme het HARDSTE!

'Living in my world is easy, there is only peace, love and ... ecstacy'
©úrrëntP¤ð I saw them 4 the 1st time on record of te year on the weekend - and i jus thought Wtf, that lead singer bloke thinks hes in some Bon Jovi rocc group or somethin' and those keyboard player's were never player those keyboards, only David Gray could shake his head around that much and still play a tune.

DJWOOWOO69 scooter was well smart like. so i dont no how u can dis them. there bringing back hard core. so u shud worship them. there helping the fight agenst greebows. all grebows need killing

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djyogi they just have bad attitude problems thats y they never came to australia before. There tracks r ok though , especially the track - don't call me manana. Although however Scooter r only these days in for it for the money.
Anywayz theres my 2cents. Also to see some of there videos , go to www.eurodancehits.com


"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz
DJWOOWOO69 my favret scooter would have 2 b im raving im raving. a classic made better. but all scooter songs r gr8

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toxic why did scooter cancel postpone their trip down under?

Whisper something nice, and ill make you scream twice !!!
djyogi hahahaha cause they wernt fed enough money most likely. Seriously though tickets will have to sell for like $90 or soemthing if they come down. They charge so much

"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz
Pobbe yeah, their new style really sucks, but their earlier tracks are pretty nice!

Soren I agree w/all the people what said Scooter has always blown huge monkey chunks! I dunno why people evar liked Scooter, but "to each his own" I guess. I'm sure a load of people hate Weird Al and 80's pop music and I love it so whatever :D

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but the've sold 10's of 1000's of CDs so they can't be that bad :)

So based on that theory Hanson, Kid Rock, and Brittany Spears are the best and most defining/skilled artists in the history of the world? Crypes!

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Going 90, it ain't scary cause I've got the virgin Mary; sitting on the dashboard of my car."
strychnine
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Originally posted by Soren:
So based on that theory Hanson, Kid Rock, and Brittany Spears are the best and most defining/skilled artists in the history of the world? Crypes!



No ... he said "they can't be that bad", not "they must be that good" - there's a difference. Marketing and hype will only get you so far - the music has to be above some minimum standard if it's to sell in that kind of volume, ie "they can't be that bad".

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djyogi see dont forget scoooter r goood at producing music they r just commercial thats all, Dont forget there other names Ratty and Baloon

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DJWOOWOO69 u say u wouldn't pay that. if thay do a ture of englan. wich i hope there is pritty soon i'll go see every gig no matter the cost

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Soren
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No ... he said "they can't be that bad", not "they must be that good" - there's a difference.


Yes, but if selling tens of thousands of CD's makes you "Not that bad" then selling dozens of millions must make you amazing! :D

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Marketing and hype will only get you so far - the music has to be above some minimum standard if it's to sell in that kind of volume


So you're saying Kid Rock, Hansen, and Brittany Spears are all WAY above a minimum standard then? IE: Great, amazing, the best?

(Yes, I know that's not what ur saying. Just kidding around... trying to press how great Hansen (Hanson?) is!) :D

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I don't care if it rains or freezes, Long as I have my plastic Jesus Riding on the dashboard of my car; Going 90, it ain't scary cause I've got the virgin Mary; sitting on the dashboard of my car.
djtommyrenegade I would agree with most of you, scooter have gone way too much commerical, but when they first started they were classic. Have any of you guys seen them LIVE? I have and although i'm not a great lover of they're material, i was impressed big style! they play everything live on synths.

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alanfarrelly1 im not 100% sure but did i hear dat scooter are down to play in millstreet, co cork soon?

Why is it, when a door is open it's ajar, but when a jar is open, it's not a door?
number2301
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Originally posted by DJWOOWOO69:
my favret scooter would have 2 b im raving im raving. a classic made better. but all scooter songs r gr8

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Hahahahaha. I think that sums it up!!! Alrite mate, Scooter are really good ;)

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Number 2301 is godverdomme het HARDSTE!

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Midway_raver speeking of scooter, u no on "posse i need you" the lyrix that go "im bigger im badder im ruffer im tuffer" surely thats getting a lil lose to the copywright of dominator? did they get in ne trouble for it or is it a rip off sumfink else?

Like a bolt of lightning it's so frightning..Get ur brain now we're igniting
strychnine
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Originally posted by Soren:
Yes, but if selling tens of thousands of CD's makes you "Not that bad" then selling dozens of millions must make you amazing! :D

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So you're saying Kid Rock, Hansen, and Brittany Spears are all WAY above a minimum standard then? IE: Great, amazing, the best?


I'm amazed at just how far you're willing to twist my words (and, for that matter, logic and reasoning as well) just to further your argument that Hanson sucks ass - it speaks wonders how passionate you are about the issue. Kudos!

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djyogi hahahaha scoooter on synths i dont think so. im sure its just a cd being played. As if u could be banging on the synths hard and jumping round and still making perfect sound and not being outa line. Impossible. Its funny though Party Animals did the same. They had a keyboard or 2 and then they had a cd playing. Hey also PUSH this trance group does the same. it was atcually funny watching the clip this guys got the keyboard thumping pressing anything and theres a cd player right on top of the keyboard playing. haha imagine if the cd was scratched.

"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz
Soren
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I'm amazed at just how far you're willing to twist my words (and, for that matter, logic and reasoning as well)


LOL, yeah. (And hansin rox!!!) (The casbah)

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I don't care if it rains or freezes, Long as I have my plastic Jesus Riding on the dashboard of my car; Going 90, it ain't scary cause I've got the virgin Mary; sitting on the dashboard of my car.
manic I'm with toxic here, just why was the thing postponed. Surely your would have booked them before going public?

" Hardcore is a feeling, not a fashion" DJ Scott Brown

I was sent to outer space to find another happy place. Now i'm left here all alone, a million miles away from home.
saintberry
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Originally posted by DJWOOWOO69:
scooter was well smart like. so i dont no how u can dis them. there bringing back hard core. so u shud worship them. there helping the fight agenst greebows. all grebows need killing


one of the most appealing features of the hhc scene to me (other than the music) is its pretty much still underground and relatively un-commercialised. Twats like scooter and flip and fill are just dragging it down like the superclubs pimped trance post 97'

**** this commercial bull shit...its about the music, when producers start to change their sound depending on what the market forces are they should all be shot...its not an art from if your making something purely and simply to sell rekids.

sure its a bonus...but your music will suffer if thats the driving force

think prodigy, classic example of the commercial cycle in action...when did they get shit, the day they signed with sony.


Aerosoulz whhooah... hold up... did soren say he likes weird al and 80's pop muzak back there? i'm well up for that sh*t! ...Sorry to get off topic....neway, u wouldnt catch me lining scooters pockets...

Ouch...
djyogi hey is anyone into the Cure, theyre preety goood, imagine if that guy had vocals in happy hardcore tracks it would rock.

"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz
Ultamate The cure! that takes me back haven't heard from then in donkeys years

With out Harcore we are nothing
toxic what made u bring up the Cure?

Whisper something nice, and ill make you scream twice !!!
mr bishi shit i luved "and the beat goes on" when it came out but i was 12 then so mayb thats y.Still like "endless summer" though

kiss my face aha
i_love_scooter i dont know how anyone can knock scooter or say that they were never hardcore or any good. what about songs like 'friends' one of the alltime classic hardcore songs. and i dont care if scooter charged 200 big ones for one of there shows i would pay it. they may say some corny stuff in there lyrics but for **** sake, not too many songs are as uplifting as theres are.....if im thinking about a quite night all i have to do is listen to a few scooter songs and i am ready for a massive night. they have gone tranci but it is still quiality music, who can honestly say they dont like 'the logical song'

from my point of view scooter are the bomb, there not really all that hardcore but they play quality stuff, well most of it is anyway. ill admit they have had a few dodgy ones here and there, but the magority are good. 'and the beat goes on' almost every song was awesome....i rest my case



HYPER HYPER

bryanm
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Originally posted by djyogi:
hahahaha scoooter on synths i dont think so. im sure its just a cd being played. As if u could be banging on the synths hard and jumping round and still making perfect sound and not being outa line. Impossible. Its funny though Party Animals did the same. They had a keyboard or 2 and then they had a cd playing. Hey also PUSH this trance group does the same. it was atcually funny watching the clip this guys got the keyboard thumping pressing anything and theres a cd player right on top of the keyboard playing. haha imagine if the cd was scratched.

"My only regret in life is that i wasn't a DJ" Draz



I'm not defending Scooter by any means, but stop kidding yourself if ANY trance/happy hardcore artist who play live acts (not to mention in the studio) play huge arpeggiated melodies on keyboards. If you pay attention to any electronic music you listen to, you'll recognise that the timing of every note is PERFECT, robotic, inhuman, impossible to replicate using your hands. It doesn't mean a cd player is going at all, in most cases there would be a sequencer which is fed into the synth that triggers the notes. Sometimes they use the keyboards to define which chord shapes are to be used in the melody, or play the very simple elements of the songs, such as strings.




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