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| Vladel |
I mean in the respect of quality? There's no denying that there's a lot of music being knocked out at the moment much like the last couple of years, but are you finding it any good? In 2014 i had 96 and 2015 on my playlists for that year and while i bought alot more through albums, they represent the ones i would bother to listen to. This year so far i have 35 and some will probably over time be removed. There is an obvious link to the number of tracks and HU releases as they last year HU were not really knocking out product was 2012 which i only have 32 for the whole year and HU haven't bene banging the albums out either. I know there are some differences with my buy rate too as i don't tend to give freeform albums much attention unless thumpa is selling them and i don't follow the gabber sites as perhaps i could. Beatport is a massive no for me with the amount of techno rubbish you have to sift through to find a hardcore track that is probably easier to find on juno. So it's mainly Juno, Trackitdown and the HU site for me as most of the stuff that shows up on itunes is mainstream enough to be mentioned here and the other two sites get them.
What i want to say also ties in to the Ham thread and a point i made about premium exclusive music because i find it hard to believe that they big guns simply aren't releasing or producing because i see quite a lot of facebook that just doesn't seem to make the listings and the point i tried to make was that we could find more exclusive deals being offered that excludes a lot of folk at a premium price and people said that wouldn't happen but it i think it is. I read about an offer this weekend and looked into it because i was sooo tempted because it's one of my favourite producers who i admire the heck out of and if it wasn't for holidays and other stuff going on, i might have parted with the cash which i got to say could be considered close to Ham level with no guarantees of volume etc but god i was so damn close to doing it!!
I honestly think we will see more of people dealing directly with a producer to get the best stuff ahead of time and to think of it, i'm surprised it has taken his long because as my wife and mates will tell you, i am one tight bastard who hates spending money and i was damn close! Overall i'm hoping that there's gonna be a big rush before christmas and the tunes will get flowing but it does just illustrate just where we would be without HU knocking out albums. It can't be quantified just what a blessing they really are because i don't want to go back to CD packs and mixes etc to hear relatively new stuff, i want to own it and make my own mixes the way i like them and HU releases help me do that.
Obviously Scott brown is a rule unto himself and has been smashing out releases consistently all year.
Has anyone else noticed a slowdown or is it me just being picky? |
| trippnface |
defo a slowdown man; glad i listen to a few genres; cuz hardcore is mostly a faint heartbeat.
constantly lurking trackitdown for new releases; incredibly sparse. most labels have a track here and there at best.
agree on scott brown; keeps the work up!
technikore kinda pushes stuff out on his label OneSeventy...
trackmaster has ok updates
dj haze still does work and posts here too..
see some cool tracks on soundcloud but god knows when they ever get released....
Future of hardcore doing things i noticed; worth checking out
https://www.facebook.com/TheFutureOfHardcore/?fref=ts
not even seeing much activity from the Gammer/styles crew; i know gammer appears to mostly be playing hardstyle shows now though or something lol.
seen hixxy upload some stuff; hopefully he has things abounding...
doesnt Storm have an album on the way too?
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| djDMS |
So far this year, I've bought far fewer albums but quite a lot more single tracks than in the past.
The quality of the music in general is better (for me) and that's important because I find myself with very little enthusiasm when it comes to putting the time in to search for good stuff |
| Claxton |
I agree with Dean. Although there has been less new music around, the quality has generally been higher. Therefore I've bought more. |
| sebastianNL |
I was thinking to start a similar thread.
As for the quality I think it's great, no complaints at all.
As for the quantity, that is what I wanted to talk about with you guys and I hope this can become some kind of discussion.
It strikes me that relatively so little is released (loose tracks I mean as well as unmixed albums) compared to before 2013. I think that there is still a lot being produced, but many tracks just never make it to being put for sale. They're just used in sets or maybe put on a mix album. For me as a collector this is terrible. I like labels to release frequently new tracks which I can buy, Evolution Records is an example of how I think it should be. Good quality tracks put out regularly. But so many producers are releasing nothing to little tracks, to mention a few, Unknown, Re-Con, Brisk, Squad-E, (and since this spring Darren Styles, Dougal, Gammer too). Of course this is a short list but it's just an example.
The reason is not really clear to me and maybe you disagree with me. But I got a feeling that there's is so much not being made public. Hardcore should not be just about the parties, it should be about the music. The music should be sold and put to the attention of listeners. I think this is viable to keep the scene alive. We all have a responsibility, producers to release regularly, we fans/ravers etc. to buy regularly.
I really think the scene depends on new music, and although 2015/2016 have been a lot better when it comes to released tracks than 2013/2014, I am not completely satisfied! Please let me know what you think of it. If more people agree with me, maybe things will change! |
| Samination |
Can't say I have bought much this year. But compared to last year, i have more single releases vs albums :P |
| Bring Me Round To Love |
I moved on to Retrowave/Synthwave just has fun has Hardcore was back in the early/mid 00's |
| The drunken scotsman |
Can someone point me in the direction of these quality releases? Admittedly I don't look for hardcore much anymore, but what I've seen this year has been a massive pile of shite, with the exception of Scott Brown/evolution. |
| Samination |
Well mine has mostly been makina, makinastomp or gabber so :P |
| warped_candykid |
I got the GTYM Album when it was on sale....and that's been it for physical releases.
I've bought a few track from Trackitdown, but it's like...none of the big names have anything coming out, it's all from smaller labels. Where are all the HU mp3 releases (Do they even release on Trackitdown)? I wish another record label would get on board and start releasing more physical copies. It's days like these I miss those Happy2bHardcore releases. There would be about 2 a year showcasing anthems of the past few months. |
| Samination |
HU is releasing stuff on digitals, but slowly. Atleast it's better than never *looks angrily at Hixxy and Sharkey* |
| warped_candykid |
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
HU is releasing stuff on digitals, but slowly. Atleast it's better than never *looks angrily at Hixxy and Sharkey*
Hixxy's too busy eating cupcakes to worry about your angry looks. |
| Si Thompson |
Just a few Evolution bits. |
| DjZelous |
This year ive mostly been buying vinyl from 2003 up to 2011, i havent bought too many things aside from the nu foundation album |
| ArdcorePower |
I don't really like any female vocal based UK Hardcore since the mid 90's. I tend to like the harder edged UK Hardcore sounds or I don't mind some fluffy/euphoric stuff without vocals in regards to newer UK Hardcore.
There's a few bangers out this year that I'm digging, but there's a whole lot of stuff I'm not feeling and I feel it's pretty generic sounding and nothing really that jumps out to me. I guess it's different strokes for different folks. |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
So far this year, I've bought far fewer albums but quite a lot more single tracks than in the past.
The quality of the music in general is better (for me) and that's important because I find myself with very little enthusiasm when it comes to putting the time in to search for good stuff
quote:
Originally posted by Claxton:
I agree with Dean. Although there has been less new music around, the quality has generally been higher. Therefore I've bought more.
Can you tarts throw me a small list of decent releases (not albums, I'm just about keeping up with those) from this year? I've not been on TID once in 2016. :-/
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| whittle1 |
I do believe that hardcore would be close to dead if the HU label did not exist. That being said, even Hardcore Underground is not a 'mainstream' form of hardcore. The genre is just about surviving and keeping as relevant as can be. |
| Samination |
Because of the Hardcore Summer Bash (2016), I managed to grab this on Bandcamp, http://9bitlogiq.bandcamp.com/
Sadly, the owner of the label has made it private, but I got in contact with him on twitter and he seems quite nice (he's japanese so don't expect wonders) :P
http://twitter.com/StackStorm |
| Impulse_Response |
Why did he make it private? I'd like to buy it. |
| Samination |
I dont know. but send him a request to buy it on twitter like I did :) |
| CDJay |
I know we've looked quiet (premises move *really* didn't help, and general state of the genre is far from where we want it to be) *but* we have been working on stuff behind the scenes.
We ended the year with a bang last year, you can dare to presume we're aiming for the same.... 
If we can translate that into some genuine scene wide momentum, going forward, we'll all be better for it!
CDJay |
| Dy5oN |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I know we've looked quiet (premises move *really* didn't help, and general state of the genre is far from where we want it to be) *but* we have been working on stuff behind the scenes.
We ended the year with a bang last year, you can dare to presume we're aiming for the same....
If we can translate that into some genuine scene wide momentum, going forward, we'll all be better for it!
CDJay
How's the new website coming along? Looking forward to the new download store!!
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| Vladel |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I know we've looked quiet (premises move *really* didn't help, and general state of the genre is far from where we want it to be) *but* we have been working on stuff behind the scenes.
We ended the year with a bang last year, you can dare to presume we're aiming for the same....
If we can translate that into some genuine scene wide momentum, going forward, we'll all be better for it!
CDJay
I've said it before cdjay, we'd be screwed without you.
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| ArdcorePower |
I really liked these
https://www.beatport.com/release/time-for-action/1820402
https://www.beatport.com/release/come-and-let-the-beat-drop/1820548 |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Can someone point me in the direction of these quality releases? Admittedly I don't look for hardcore much anymore, but what I've seen this year has been a massive pile of shite, with the exception of Scott Brown/evolution.
Since our tastes are very similar, I can tell you that this year's releases have mostly been shite. It's just that the handful of survivors and stragglers left on this forum have learnt to adapt to the new sounds of hardcore.
Our preferred sound is dead. It's over. It was an incredble run and I'll never forget it. Some of the best moments of my life have had a hardcore soundtrack. I'm going to continue listening to '01-'12 hardcore until I'm far too old (if I live that long). I'll also keep producing tracks in that style (if only I was half-decent at the engineering part..). I'll do my bit to keep the magic alive. RIP though really. |
