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JonezyCMABC Just read that Bonkers are joinin Ministry with their Original Hardcore Compilation in that they are gettin a few addy's in on the telly. Noticed that the Original Hardcore adverts have been on at like 1am etc and that is pretty shit as no ****er is gonna see it hardly. Was just wonderin if Bonkers are gonna get theres on in the middle of Coronation Street or Match of the Day or sumthin that will get a few more people noticin it! Anyone got any ideas??????? Just curious.

©úrrëntP¤ð Inbetween Jobfinder and Dial-a-date, I think.

Haeobogoblin I have seen them (only 3 times) at about 10/11 PM whic sucks abit. (The ad makes the CD sound better than it acctuly is! -mix between track 3&4 - GENIUS!)

"Just because I have a head shaped like an amusing pile of mashed potato, doesn't mean I'm not sophisticated"
Weasel ill have to stay up all night and look out for it i aint seen it yet!

I don’t mean to be rude, it just come naturally
Hard2Get LOL i don't end up going to bed untill about 2 anyway, so it won't be a problem for me :P

Weasel ahh i gotta travel to college every day and get up at 6:45

I don’t mean to be rude, it just come naturally
silver Read the news :)

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Hard2Get
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ahh i gotta travel to college every day

Me too, but then i haven't got to get up at 6:45 :)
DJSuperb Back in the day when hardcore was advertised on telly, Bonkers & Hardcore Heaven CDs were advertised in Prime time tv occassionally, but it was mainly on a morning when they were on, when the Big Breakfast was on :)

12" of Love
miss-mitzi now do they really need to advertise?
if u like hhc ur gonna know bout it anyway
advertise on hhc.com yeah ok but not on the tellie!!!

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
Chrysostomou I willl try and get hold of a recording of it and upload it!!

number2301 Don't advertise on TV? Why not, surely that'll get non-Hardcore people into it :)

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miss-mitzi
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Originally posted by number2301:
Don't advertise on TV? Why not, surely that'll get non-Hardcore people into it :)

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4 wot reason?

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
number2301 Huh? What you mean by that?

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miss-mitzi y would u want non hardcore people 2 like hhc?
hhc has been goin 4 many many years an it has never really been widely advertised it hasnt really needed to be.
its the type ov music that u find in ur own way its not in ur face all the time like gayridge
do u know wot i mean?

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
mc lyrical half the tunes on that cd i havnt heard at a rave for about 4 years. well get loadsa new geezers at raves asking why they havent played i wanna be a hippy!! and scooter!

Last night and the night before... Tommyknockers knocking at my door
JonezyCMABC Are the bonkers ad's already doin the rounds? Aint seen any yet like.....

I seen the Original Hardcore advert on after A clockwork Orange on channel four when that finished, which was about 1.30am or sumthin stupid, thought i was f00kin dreamin! Hardcore on the f00kin telly!


©úrrëntP¤ð
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Originally posted by JonezyCMABC:
Are the bonkers ad's already doin the rounds? Aint seen any yet like.....

I seen the Original Hardcore advert on after A clockwork Orange on channel four when that finished, which was about 1.30am or sumthin stupid, thought i was f00kin dreamin! Hardcore on the f00kin telly!






Damn I missed that, i watched Clockwork Orange but was so dazed and confused by all those bright Red, green and Blue Flashing colours on the ending credits had to go str to sleep.



Lixx
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Originally posted by miss-mitzi:
y would u want non hardcore people 2 like hhc?
hhc has been goin 4 many many years an it has never really been widely advertised it hasnt really needed to be.
its the type ov music that u find in ur own way its not in ur face all the time like gayridge
do u know wot i mean?



I disagree entirely. It doesn't need to be shoved down people's throats but there's no good reason not to advertise. I only got into hardcore less than two years ago because in America there's like no outlet for me to hear music like this if I was just going about my own business. I would've much preferred to get into the music many, many years ago but now it's my loss.

number2301
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Originally posted by miss-mitzi:
y would u want non hardcore people 2 like hhc?
hhc has been goin 4 many many years an it has never really been widely advertised it hasnt really needed to be.
its the type ov music that u find in ur own way its not in ur face all the time like gayridge
do u know wot i mean?

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!



Why do you want non-Hardcore people getting into Hardcore? Well I was a non-Hardcore person early 98. I'd never heard it and didn't know what it was! Now I'm a dedicated raver who does everthing I can for the scene!

Think how many people there are out there who don't know about Hardcore but would love it if they did!

More ravers=good!!!



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'Living in my world is easy, there is only peace, love and ... ecstacy'
miss-mitzi it doesnt always work tike that tho
im not saying dont promote hhc all im saying is there are 2 many kids out there wi bad attitudes like all those gayridge kids i dont want them spoiling MY happy hardcore
im only talking from experience i mean in england how often do u really c hhc advertised yet so many people like it!!

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
strychnine How exactly would they *spoil* happy hardcore? Are they gonna hold a gun to Brisk's head and tell him to stop producing awesome tracks, or maybe hold Hixxy at knifepoint and make him produce 2-step? Please explain ...

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miss-mitzi as i have said b4 i usually only go to raves and my experiences of these brats r exactly that!! one of them did pull a gun out on one of my m8s and 3 djs i know have had their vinyl smashed all cos they wanted garage
i know that maybe advertising hhc could convert some of them but i would rather they just stayed in their own clubs an left me alone i just dont like their attitude if they are listenin to choons bout killin people y would they wanna listen to hhc....
when our partys were advertised the nxt sat we were bombarded by underaged gayridge kids and ok so now ant hten there is the odd fight (and honestly it isnt that often ) on the first night after being advertised we had to close at 3am as opposed to maybe 3pm there was a big difference
can you understand y im against it now .......... im not saying dont advertise all im saying is b careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
strychnine ahhhhh I see your point - these kids either (1) go to the parties without any kind of love for the music or (2) start listening to the music and go the parties but don't bother changing their attitudes, and either way they ruin the vibe. Clear as Evian.

Then again, it's questionable whether the HHC scene's future can be secured by just word of mouth or luck. IMO *some* advertising/commercialising is necessary to bring in the new breed of nutters, in which case some balance has to be found between not reaching enough of an audience to sustain the scene, and reaching too much of an audience and attracting the wrong kind of people.

AFAIC though it's the party vibe that's at risk, not the music itself (which some people have argued it is). The good producers will still make good tracks, and it's these tracks that people prefer to buy. Sure, if the scene turns full-commercial then we'll get a flood of sub-standard releases, but they'll only sell so long as the scene *stays* commercial and there are people in the scene stupid enough to pay money for them, and even then it's only gonna be the money left over after the good records sell out. If and when the scene downsizes, it's the lousy tracks (and producers) who'll lose first. Economically, then, the good producers are in a pretty strong position if the scene turns commercial.

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miss-mitzi imo the people who truely like happy hardcore love it with a passion and that isnt gonna change no matter how much it is advertised so thats kinda a waste of money!

all these kids listen to aparticular type of music for a few weeks or months then go on to something different

If happy hardcore was widely advertised do u think it would kill the scene off completely?
i dont c how it can appeal to the gayridge kids anyway but mayb it could convert the trance ones ............ well i hope so anyway!
and the tekkkkkno heads r half way there anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!


If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
strychnine Advertising won't make any of *us* love HHC more (I don't think it's possible), but what happens when the current generation stops going to parties and stops buying records? Sure, there's a hard core (hehehe) of ravers who'll be listening to Eyeopener on their death-bed, but the vast majority of HHC'ers *will* move on, or at least step down their consumption of HHC dramatically. Where will their replacements come from?

Word-of-mouth, multi-genre raves, and lucky finds (as in some dude just happens to pick up Bonkers 3 in a 2nd-hand bargain bin somewhere and decides to buy it) will only go so far in converting new followers IMO. There is a need for advertising somewhere.

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miss-mitzi is happy hardcore advertised in australia?

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
strychnine nup, but hhc raves are often advertised in club/rave 'zines like 3dworld (although i once saw a hhc rave advertised in a liftout mag in the sydney morning herald, which is our premier newspaper).

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miss-mitzi really? i just cant imagine it being like that over here...

i could just b gettin old.. thats all!!!!!!!!!!

If computer games effected us as kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
Molesey I recorded Clockwork Orange so I watched the adverts at the end but didn't see the advert for the cd :(

disappointing stuff

XxXbUnnYgAlXxX wait... is this advert on normal tv or sky? im all excited now!


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yOu'rE nOt aLoNE...
Simon It will be on Normal TV, I'm pretty sure of that.
My bet is on about 2.00 in the morning on channel 5 in between the dial a date crap :)

Sy.
StrifeII nooo!!! commercialization bad!!! HARDCORE UNDERGROUND FOREVER!!!!

If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
DJ STYLUS I wan2 c it in the middle of corrie or sumit big like that!!!

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JonezyCMABC But Bonkers isnt underground!!!!!

U said u recorded the ads after? How long after? Cos watch it, i seen the original hardcore ad it was pretty mental. Either this, or the ****ed up ending with all the flashing lights to that film made me dream original hardcore ad's.

Its there.

mc lyrical why bother watching channel 5 when this adverts in the news section for this site???

Last night and the night before... Tommyknockers knocking at my door
silver dial a date!! where?

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dj_stey_iz_ere it will get shown on that shitty thing wot comes on channel 2 about 4 in the morinin looks like tele txt i mean who watches that shit

is any1 else on the same level
mc lyrical ravers! thats who, you come in from a club at 3:30am lie back and for some reason have this urge to watch channel 5 (or summat along them lines!), or am i alone on that??

Last night and the night before... Tommyknockers knocking at my door

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