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| djbj |
ive heard from an older m8 of mind that happyhardcore raves origonally started out as hardcore raves but for gays? i dont really have anything against gay's but it was something i didnt want to hear. And is it still so? i havent ever been to a proper Rave because of location and age so have never experianced it in person, so can any1 confirm this information for me????
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| Hard2Get |
I don't think that's true at all, i think maybe he was he was takin the piss, as in, was saying that HHC is for gays.
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| invader |
Yeah! Absolutely spot on and true. There's nothing I like more than going to a Happy Hardcore event and sucking some meat.
yummmy
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| djbj |
i didnt think it was true - but i know plenty of people that like hardcore but dont like happyhardcore and i htink it sucks cause happy is just as good
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| Hard2Get |
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sucking some meat.
You would :P
J/K
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| invader |
Oh and by the way, I was just joking in the post above. Of course hardcore events aren't specifically for gay people!
hehe.
sowwy... :)
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| Don Giovanni |
The great thing about raves in general is that they are open to all people of all walks of life, and there is USUALLY no problems...noone gets judged.
I dunno about homosexuals likeing Happy hardcore specifically. Sexuallity has nothing to do with your taste in music :P
Your friend is full of piss.
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| invader |
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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sucking some meat.
You would :P
J/K
only for you matt but let's not get into this in public, message me on msn. ta
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| smigga |
Not sure, Hard house started off predominantly gay in clubs like heaven but i've never heard of the same being said about hardcore.
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| TweekiN |
HHC not for any1 in specific.... it is for EVERYONE
The FORCE is strong with this one
Go hard or GO HOME!! |
| strychnine |
^^ maybe that's what they meant - early raves were differentiated from the other segments of the party scene by their emphasis on free hedonism and autonomy (the TAZ ideal), and welcomed all within their ranks, including gays.
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| Brian K |
so what if it was? you say that gays don't bother you but evidently they do if you have a problem with the thought of happy hardcore being raves for gays. i really haven't found a large following of hhc with the homosexual community, mainly they seem to like house more than anything.
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| milo |
who cares, raving is about getting out of sterotyping and judging, i know jsut as many gay people who are into happy hardcore as I do straight, not a big deal =)
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| virus |
In the 1980's, house and disco music was kept alive and played in gay clubs and bath houses, and this lead the way into the house music raves of the late 80's. By then more straight people began to attend these events, and people of both persuations could party together.. By the time raves were popularized in the early 90's, they weren't classified as "gay only" events at all.. everyone who was into the music and wanted to have a good time with friends would go. Happy hardcore didnt come about until a few years later
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| djbj |
i didnt say i had something against gay's however i would have prefered it if i was not following in their steps, and that my fav music was started up for them, cause i dont want to be a gay personally
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| junglist_angel |
think about it seriously...
Typical gay parties usually play either Madona style music or house.
Gays are of course most welcome to any party in my opinion. But I don't think your friend knows what he's on about.
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| invader |
quote:
Originally posted by djbj:
i didnt say i had something against gay's however i would have prefered it if i was not following in their steps, and that my fav music was started up for them, cause i dont want to be a gay personally
Yeah innit, because listening to a type of music that was "made" for gays makes you a gay person, dont it son.
what a **** wit.
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| kg4 |
hey i am gay, and your pissing me the **** off bj. saying that you dont mind gays, but you wouldnt want to listen to something that had to do with them because you "dont want to be gay"...
and i do find it weird that hardcore is predominantly heterosexual! i only know of a few people that are otherwise...
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| invader |
Just ignore him kg4.
Surely someone making posts such as his can't be taken seriously? Just sounds like some silly kid to me. hehe.
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| invader |
Just checked his profile...
Age: 14
"nuff sed bruv"
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| djbj |
rite thats good then, hes a bit of a dick to, thinks he know everything about raving, thinks he know everything there is to it, this will be nice to get him back wiv
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| kg4 |
-edit-
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| invader |
I think he was referring to his friend that supposedly told him that btw kg4 :P
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| kg4 |
woops, sorry :)
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage... |
| Lusive |
i think if you "dont want to be a gay" then you have very little chance of becoming so.. cause your born either way dude.. so hanging around them or going to raves with them etc will at worst open your mind...
I'd say your mate is just spurting rubbish, and had no idea what hes talking about. He probably overheard "happy hardcore is for gays" and took it literally..
when you go to a proper rave you'll see that he was not only full o shit but that such an issue really doesnt matter in the scheme of things.
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| CandyAss |
Yes mate, we're all gay here. Even all the girls on this board are lesbians :)
Actually, did you know that house music was pretty much started by the gay community? When everyone started hating disco gay men in some areas kept it going in underground clubs where it eventually evolved into house (in Chicago) and garage (in New York). Which then ended up influencing techno, breakbeat hardcore (which turned into jungle and happy hardcore), ect. So as you can see, in a way all this music has been very influenced by the gay community. They weren't the only contributors, but there's a long history between "rave" music and "gays."
CandyAss
Drew
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| virus |
^^ thats what i already said =)
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| fazza |
god i cant believe we still live in a world when anyone cares bout this sort of thing! if hardcore was started by the gay community- who the **** cares!! its still my favourite music and to be honest with u its the closed mindedness of people like you bj that causes tension at raves! grow up, its not the 1950s anymore.
"I feel you, i want you, i know your touch is all i need, im waiting you're shining" |
| CandyAss |
quote:
Originally posted by virus:
^^ thats what i already said =)
*looks back* Ah, so you did. Oh well, retold the information for our young friend here.
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Originally posted by fazza:
god i cant believe we still live in a world when anyone cares bout this sort of thing! if hardcore was started by the gay community- who the **** cares!! its still my favourite music and to be honest with u its the closed mindedness of people like you bj that causes tension at raves! grow up, its not the 1950s anymore.
"I feel you, i want you, i know your touch is all i need, im waiting you're shining"
Alright, if he was 24 I would totally agree with your flamming him, and I agree about closed-minded people being vey, very bad....but c'mon, he's 14. When most of us were 14 we weren't very open-minded. Some of us maybe, but for the most part you still have a lot to learn at the age. He just needs to be schooled in the ways of the force.
So BJ, coming from someone who isn't gay, let me tell you that there's nothing wrong with being gay. Hardcore wasn't actually formed by gay people, but the entire rave scene was heavily influenced by a gay movement (some would argue even directly formed by the gay community). That doesn't make it bad at all, now does it? There's many gay happy hardcore DJs as well as many straight ones, and it's their decision and doesn't have shit to do with the music 
CandyAss
Drew
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| SINIZTA |
Persanally, I just don't give a ****!!!
"Ain't nothing 2 **** wit" |
| smigga |
Isn't Sharkey (yes, the bonkers one) gay? Maybe it was just mixmag misprinting girlfriend with boyfriend. Anyhow, as long as it stays happy it doesnt bother me in the slightest.
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| kg4 |
nope hes gay alright!
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage... |
| fazza |
quote:
Originally posted by CandyAss:
Alright, if he was 24 I would totally agree with your flamming him, and I agree about closed-minded people being vey, very bad....but c'mon, he's 14. When most of us were 14 we weren't very open-minded. Some of us maybe, but for the most part you still have a lot to learn at the age. He just needs to be schooled in the ways of the force.
CandyAss
Drew
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yeah youre right mate but i got a few gay mates and whenever they go out they always get all this shit and it pisses me off!
"I feel you, i want you, i know your touch is all i need, im waiting you're shining" |
| kg4 |
thanks fazza, we can always use more people like you :)
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage... |
| i_love_scooter |
i find it pretty offensive that anyone would even suggest that raves are for gays........i dont hate gays i dont like them either.
just because raves are sort of 'underground' and not for everyone people automatically call it gay.. well to them i say f*&k you c*&^ sucker.
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| rushout |
i've never heard hardcore raves referred to as 'gay'. some of the music can be a bit queeny, but most actual events are full of hetereosexual white blokes. even if they do hug each other alot 
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| strychnine |
^^ ROFL
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| Kaffine |
quote:
Originally posted by djbj:
i didnt say i had something against gay's however i would have prefered it if i was not following in their steps, and that my fav music was started up for them, cause i dont want to be a gay personally
I don't mean to be rude, but it's quite shallow of you to think in such a manner. That's like stopping liking jazz music because you heard it originated from african americans (no, I'm not racist...) the bottom line is that what you listen to doesn't change who you are any more than any other superficial thing (clothes, etc.) and you're being manipulated a bit too much by the whole "image" thing that goes on between kids...
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| toxic |
quote:
Originally posted by rushout:
i've never heard hardcore raves referred to as 'gay'. some of the music can be a bit queeny, but most actual events are full of hetereosexual white blokes. even if they do hug each other alot
*applauds*
good call
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| whispering |
quote from Finnish - english - finnish dictionary (printed 1973),
Gay = happy
quote from southpark
Big gay al singing: gay means happy and happy means gay...
So we are listening gay hardcore, lol...
i'm just trying to give a new perspective to the topic...
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| fazza |
a question to djbj- you do know what BJ stands for dont you?
"I feel you, i want you, i know your touch is all i need, im waiting you're shining" |
| Dave Murray |
lol this was an interesting topic!
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| djbj |
**** u lot, i was commenting on what a m8 told me......ur a bunch of pricks u dont u give i love scooter a go at for saying he dont like gays either..???? u guys are so lame...i kno i braught the subject up...i just wanted a simple answer like virus gave me on the first page???!!!!!
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| xxhappyxx |
the only reason people were gettin upset as because some things u sed were quite offensive and narrow minded, saying that you didnt want to follow in the steps of gay people, they were just trying to point out that this is completley irrelevant to the music,ok u made a mistake fair enuff! but dont expect to get any respect on this board if your going to come on here calling us a bunch of pricks!
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| djbj |
i was only defensing myself....
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| milo |
quick, he has weak defences... GET 'IM!!!
"Everybody... rock, rock on.. " |
| kg4 |
no one said anything to "i love scooter"... what are you talking about?
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage... |
| djbj |
he said he dont like gays!! umm i dont know how to qote on here but if some one would like to tell me!!
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| kg4 |
woops, i read your post wrong...
we didnt say anything to "i love scooter" because he wasnt offensive about what he said, he stated that he doesnt like gays.... well good for him. who the **** cares? no one.
but when you offend someone else, then people care..
i think this topic should be locked, its gone on for too long and its pointless.
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage... |
| djbj |
ohhh soz m8 well i was trying to make the same point as him kinda...just started it off in the wrong way
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| CandyAss |
kg4 has 420 posts. Congrates!!!
CandyAss
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