| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| CDJay |
Release Date: March 31st
Cat: HUDSCD006
Format: 4xCD
CD1 - When Nobody Liked Us
01. United In Dance feat. Lisa Marie - Lift Me Above
02. Dougal & Gammer - Higher Than Heaven
03. Dougal & Gammer - Get Hype (Facelift)
04. Dougal & Gammer feat. Lisa Marie - Open Your Eyes
05. Dougal & Gammer - 3000 Cycles
06. Dougal & Gammer feat. Stefan B & Jenna - Bathe In Your Tears
07. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna & MC Smiley - Ordinary People
08. Dougal & Gammer - Make Noise
09. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - Paradise
10. Dougal & Gammer - The 6th Gate
11. Dougal & Gammer - What We Got
12. Dougal & Gammer - Fires In The Sky
CD2 - When Everybody Liked Us
01. Dougal & Gammer - Guitar Hero
02. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - When I Close My Eyes
03. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - All My Dreams
04. Dougal & Gammer - Rock This
05. Dougal & Gammer - The Tunnel
06. Dougal & Gammer - Horns Of Jericho
07. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - All The Tears I've Cried
08. Mickey Skeedale feat. Jenna - Through The Darkness (Dougal & Gammer 2009 Remix)
09. United In Dance - 1234
10. Dougal & Gammer - Brainstorm
11. Dougal & Gammer - **** Me I'm Famous
12. Dougal & Gammer vs. Hixxy - Dark Skies
13. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - Lose Me Forever
14. Dougal & Gammer vs. Technikore - Corruption For The Weekend
CD3 - When The People Who Used To Like Us Stopped Liking Us But Some New People Probably Like Us Now Instead
01. Dougal & Gammer - Burn
02. Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
03. Dougal & Gammer feat. Hannah Faulkner - The One
04. Dougal & Gammer - Don't Leave Me
05. Dougal & Gammer - **** That Shit
06. Dougal & Gammer - Trust In Me
07. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Back Home
08. Dougal & Gammer - Your One
09. Dougal & Gammer feat. Hannah Faulkner - Knight In Shining Armour
10. Dougal & Gammer - Monster (Remaster)
11. Dougal & Gammer - Lifting Me Higher
12. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jerome - Domination
13. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Everytime I Hear Your Name
CD4 - Dougal & Gammer's Personal Favourites (Apart From One)
01. Dougal & Gammer - Burn
02. Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
03. Dougal & Gammer - **** That Shit
04. Dougal & Gammer - The One
05. Dougal & Gammer - Red 7
06. Dougal & Gammer - Monster (Ayobi Remix)
07. Dougal & Gammer - Monster (Remaster)
08. Dougal & Gammer - Trust In Me
09. Dougal & Gammer - Your One
10. Dougal & Gammer - Don't Leave Me
11. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Back Home
12. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jerome - Domination
13. United In Dance- 1234
14. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Everytime I Hear Your Name
15. Dougal & Gammer - Guitar Hero
16. Dougal & Gammer - Anybody Else But You
17. Dougal & Gammer - Models Are Ugly
18. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna & Whizzkid - All My Life (Facelift)
19. Hixxy vs. Dougal & Gammer - Phase to Phase
20. Dougal & Gammer - Don't Stop Go
21. Dougal & Gammer - This Is a Virus
22. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - All The Tears I've Cried
23. Dougal & Gammer - Rock This
24. Dougal & Gammer - Horns Of Jericho
25. Dougal & Gammer - Wii Go Crazy
26. Dougal & Gammer feat. Jenna - When I Close My Eyes
27. Dougal & Gammer - Make Noise
28. Dougal & Gammer - Nobody Likes It
29. Dougal & Gammer - Fires In The Sky (Facelift)
Available to pre-order both discretely and as part of "Launch Bundle #3" (this, Brisk artist album, HU DJ Tools Vol 1).
http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk
CDJay |
| djDMS |
Interesting tracklist.
Will digest it fully before i get involved in all the 'why isn't ***** on there' shit that's inevitably forthcoming. |
| Samination |
I guess they must have misstitled CD1 and CD2. It should be other way around :P
Did Gammer name those CDs? I guess he's definitly forgiven the Haters |
| GrahamC |
Pre-ordered the bundle but bitterly disappointed.
Once I get these to fill in gaps in my digital collection I'm done with hardcore. |
| arpz |
Very disappointed with the upfront CD tbh, should be titled 'All our new stuff is coming out on Futureworld but here's some tracks you've already got that they let us put on the album' :( Whatever, bought it anyway |
| latininxtc |
Cd3 is majorly disappointing, considering that a good number of those are already released. Was hoping to be a complete cd of unreleased tracks.
and the title to the albums it's obvious that Gammer named them. Everyone's been liking dougal long before Gammer was around, maybe it's him no one liked at the time. |
| Gazza1712 |
Bit disappointed that there isn't much upfront material on this, got most of these releases anyway, are they mixed CDs? Or fills length individual tracks as I can't work out why burn and float away feature on 2 disks? Was looking forward to this but I'm disappointed overall, more interested in the brisk cd now |
| arpz |
Brisk CD and HU Tools are gonna be awesome, this one...Meh OK :) 1-3 Unmixed, 4th Mixed, that's why some feature twice |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Bit disappointed that there isn't much upfront material on this, got most of these releases anyway, are they mixed CDs? Or fills length individual tracks as I can't work out why burn and float away feature on 2 disks? Was looking forward to this but I'm disappointed overall, more interested in the brisk cd now
CD4 is a mixed album with most of the tracks that appear on CD1 to 3 |
| Quicksilver |
I'm okay with there being a facelift of Fires In The Sky cause it comes along with the original. :)
Also happy to see you were able to get Dark Skies on it.
All My Life facelift seems interesting. I love the original tune, it's a very overlooked masterpiece imo! |
| Elliott |
12. Dougal & Gammer vs. Hixxy - Dark Skies |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Quicksilver:
All My Life facelift seems interesting. I love the original tune, it's a very overlooked masterpiece imo!
+1
Loved that tune. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
CD3 - When The People Who Used To Like Us Stopped Liking Us But Some New People Probably Like Us Now Instead
06. Dougal & Gammer - Trust In Me
07. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Back Home
08. Dougal & Gammer - Your One
11. Dougal & Gammer - Lifting Me Higher
13. Dougal & Gammer feat. Niki Mak - Everytime I Hear Your Name
I would be okay if they wanted to put these in "When Everybody Liked Us". |
| Craigavon raver |
Buzzing! didn't have a clue about this album till a few weeks ago and now its here, can't wait, well theres some tunes which aren't there but I wish there were, but there's some tunes I haven't heard before on the last couple of cds, so suppose i'm happy enough!  pre-order time!  |
| Mickey Init |
So, "Nostalgia" doesn't feature after all!
"Velvet Skies" would've been a pleasant surprise, had that made it.
Nevertheless, I'll be getting this one. |
| DJ-Hutchy |
Looks great to me tbh, only dissapointment is - I dont want this night to end ft whizzkid is not on here..... :( an amazing track :-/ |
| Quicksilver |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Hutchy:
Looks great to me tbh, only dissapointment is - I dont want this night to end ft whizzkid is not on here..... :( an amazing track :-/
CDjay, whyyyyy? :( |
| piumaki |
"Launch Bundle #3" ordered together with a shirt :P |
| Quicksilver |
Would've liked to see an image of the shirt. If it's just black with "HU" on it then I'll be in no rush to pre-order to get the shirt. :P |
| CDJay |
There's pictures on the site and our FB fan page. It's a really cool design, IMO, and proper fitted bespoke prettiness. They really aren't the big standard print on demand stuff, i promise! 
CDJay |
| Claxton |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There's pictures on the site and our FB fan page. It's a really cool design, IMO, and proper fitted bespoke prettiness. They really aren't the big standard print on demand stuff, i promise!
CDJay
Did you print them with YOUR printer? |
| CDJay |
It's a great printer, for invoices. I fear i would denigrate the brand and whatever faint veneer of professionalism, hard attained, should i start using transfer paper. Unless it is to move Al Storm to a secure facility.
CDJay |
| The drunken scotsman |
Will be buying this and I can't wait for release. Though I have to admit I'm a bit dissapointed that the majority of the tunes on there are already available for download. Was really hoping for the original mix of 'I don't want this night to end'. Whizzkid put the stylus & audiojunkie remix up for download recently and although they are fairly similar, the remix doesn't have the same spark as the original.
Good to see dark skies on there :-)
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| Shades |
read the track list noticed 'stomp' wasn't on there..... then read this
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Interesting tracklist.
Will digest it fully before i get involved in all the 'why isn't ***** on there' shit that's inevitably forthcoming.
yeah i LOL'ed afterwards
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| Janster |
Dougal & Gammer's Personal Favourites (Apart From One)
What's the one this refers to? |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Janster:
Dougal & Gammer's Personal Favourites (Apart From One)
What's the one this refers to?
Either the one or your one ;-)
I'm guessing that's just gammer trying to be funny. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
So, "Nostalgia" doesn't feature after all!
In their defence, they seem to be focussing on collabs only. |
| djDMS |
Yep, i dare say a Gammer album would have been far more experimental. |
| Vladel |
Don't think I will be buying this one due to the lack of new material if I'm honest. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Yep, i dare say a Gammer album would have been far more experimental.
I hope to see that one by the end of the year! There's got to be plenty of material to work with that he has yet to release! Although if FW meddles in such a project, it might not be what we all had hoped for. |
| whittle1 |
Why does this have to be 4 CD's? Very odd considering that the people who would want to buy this album are D&G fans and have heard most of these tracks 100 times over.
2 CD's or even just 1 would be more suitable. |
| nantk |
do you know if it will be available in amazon? it has lots of problems with paypal and i cant validate it :/ |
| djDMS |
No, direct from HU only.
I'm sure there are ways round paypal that don't need you to have an account. |
| Torpex |
This usually works:
PayPal then acts just like any other credit card processor, no accounts etc. |
| nantk |
[OFFTOPIC]
I?ve already tried that, it?s like if the card had already been linked to another acc, but it?s impossible. Funny tho, cause it?s paypal prepaid card
I dont recommend it to anyone, they dont answer emails, last option is an expensive call.
Dont know how, but i will manage to buy it
Thanks you 2 for helping
[/OFFTOPIC]
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| Craigavon raver |
quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
Why does this have to be 4 CD's? Very odd considering that the people who would want to buy this album are D&G fans and have heard most of these tracks 100 times over.
2 CD's or even just 1 would be more suitable.
More cds the better! |
| Elipton |
quote:
CD3 - When The People Who Used To Like Us Stopped Liking Us But Some New People Probably Like Us Now Instead
****ing Christ Gammer is so easy to ****ing hate |
| Bad Corey |
06. Dougal & Gammer feat. Stefan B & Jenna - Bathe In Your Tears
Why is no one flipping more of a shit about this? I thought this was like the unicorn of all D&G tracks or something, only played out once ever, no information about it on the internet save one mention in a thread on here in 2005, from everything I heard about it. I thought this track would've been a huge deal. |
| lurker |
I was wondering if that track was going to come up. A couple of guys on USH were NUTS about that. I'm guessing nobody is making a big deal out of it because they haven't heard it (has anyone actually heard it on here?) or they're too busy being pissed off.
quote:
Originally posted by Janster:
Dougal & Gammer's Personal Favourites (Apart From One)
What's the one this refers to?
I bet it's this:
quote:
28. Dougal & Gammer - Nobody Likes It
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| Claxton |
What is this track called? I've wanted to know for years.
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/1965894/file.html |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Claxton:
What is this track called? I've wanted to know for years.
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/1965894/file.html
Thansk for Google, Discogs and easy understandable vocals :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9EQh-vqPC8
http://www.discogs.com/Dowster--Gammer-Dougal-Can-You-Hear-Me-Starlight/release/174819 |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
CD3 - When The People Who Used To Like Us Stopped Liking Us But Some New People Probably Like Us Now Instead
****ing Christ Gammer is so easy to ****ing hate
Honestly, I have to agree. He does a lot of shit that just doesn't gel with me. |
| Craigavon raver |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Corey:
06. Dougal & Gammer feat. Stefan B & Jenna - Bathe In Your Tears
Why is no one flipping more of a shit about this? I thought this was like the unicorn of all D&G tracks or something, only played out once ever, no information about it on the internet save one mention in a thread on here in 2005, from everything I heard about it. I thought this track would've been a huge deal.
I've never even heard of the track never mind heard it, it did kind of take me by surprise when I seen the tracklist as I would of heard most of dougal & gammers tracks at the time, and I didn't recognise it at all |
| latininxtc |
So FutureWorld just released a Dougal & Gammer EP containing single tracks from this album:
Burn
Float Away
Fuck That Shit
Is there anything left on this album that hasn't been released yet that is considered new? |
| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
So FutureWorld just released a Dougal & Gammer EP containing single tracks from this album:
Burn
Float Away
Fuck That Shit
Is there anything left on this album that hasn't been released yet that is considered new?
I can't answer this, but I will throw in there that the collective price of this album makes the price per track you're getting minuscule. If you've not got much D&G in your collection, this album is a MUST BUY. |
| Rodz90 |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
So FutureWorld just released a Dougal & Gammer EP containing single tracks from this album:
Burn
Float Away
Fuck That Shit
Is there anything left on this album that hasn't been released yet that is considered new?
Dark Skies
Bathe in your Tears
Those alone make it worth it, plus if you buy the launch bundle #3 it comes to something like ?4 a CD which is pretty damn good!
The Brisk album has personally got me a bit more excited though, Brisks mix CD on it looks awesome! |
| Anderjuk2002 |
quote:
Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
So FutureWorld just released a Dougal & Gammer EP containing single tracks from this album:
Burn
Float Away
Fuck That Shit
Is there anything left on this album that hasn't been released yet that is considered new?
Dark Skies
Bathe in your Tears
Those alone make it worth it, plus if you buy the launch bundle #3 it comes to something like ?4 a CD which is pretty damn good!
The Brisk album has personally got me a bit more excited though, Brisks mix CD on it looks awesome!
Don't forget "Corruption For The Weekend" been after that track for years! |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
So FutureWorld just released a Dougal & Gammer EP containing single tracks from this album:
Burn
Float Away
Fuck That Shit
Is there anything left on this album that hasn't been released yet that is considered new?
I can't answer this, but I will throw in there that the collective price of this album makes the price per track you're getting minuscule. If you've not got much D&G in your collection, this album is a MUST BUY.
True. Still though I think it would be a bit nice if there were tracks that were exclusive just to the album, that way it would entice more to buy. I'm still getting it eventually. |
| Bad Corey |
As long as this is the album cover, I will be happy.
 |
| emielsb |
This HU stuff isn't doing my wallet good, I ordered the bundle when I didnt even see what was in it.. maybe i shouldnt have bought that dj tools cd lol |
| Impulse_Response |
I got the bundle and I'm really excited for it to get here. I still can't tell for sure though... is the Fires In The Sky on CD 1 the original or the facelift? I'm not a big fan of the facelift tracks, and Fires In They Sky is one that I've wanted full length for a really long time. Does this album really have both versions on it? |
| djDMS |
quote:
Originally posted by Advather:
I got the bundle and I'm really excited for it to get here. I still can't tell for sure though... is the Fires In The Sky on CD 1 the original or the facelift? I'm not a big fan of the facelift tracks, and Fires In They Sky is one that I've wanted full length for a really long time. Does this album really have both versions on it?
The tracklist suggests the original on CD1 and the facelift version as part of the mix on 4 |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Advather:
I got the bundle and I'm really excited for it to get here. I still can't tell for sure though... is the Fires In The Sky on CD 1 the original or the facelift? I'm not a big fan of the facelift tracks, and Fires In They Sky is one that I've wanted full length for a really long time. Does this album really have both versions on it?
tbh the original (vinyl version) sucks because it sounds so flat. The Bonkers version and the facelift sounds much ebtter |
| Mitchie DJ |
disappointed all the good ones are there but it feels like there is too many e.p b sides was with no vocals like 'rock this', 'horns of Jericho' and the 'the tunnal' for example they are good tunes but they where always the vinyl fillers it seems didnt think I be seeing me on an album 5 years later when they made really good vocals like reach out that never made it on |
| Rodz90 |
quote:
Originally posted by Mitchie DJ:
disappointed all the good ones are there but it feels like there is too many e.p b sides was with no vocals like 'rock this', 'horns of Jericho' and the 'the tunnal' for example they are good tunes but they where always the vinyl fillers it seems didnt think I be seeing me on an album 5 years later when they made really good vocals like reach out that never made it on
I'm not sure i agree, i think all there *big* vocal songs are on there that had the most success with ravers and listeners. This is all picked by Dougal & Gammer themselves so i would be swayed to agree with there selection for the album, seeing as they played all there songs out to various crowds through time, and were able to judge accordingly. |
| Captain Triceps |
I'd have liked Beat The System on there I always loved that one. |
| Impulse_Response |
Sorry to see that the release of this and other 2 Launch Bundle #3 albums was pushed back 2 and a half weeks. Does anyone have info on this? I understand that problems can arise, but some correspondence from them would have been nice. The only way I found out was by having another look through the HU store again today. Oh well. More time for the anticipation to build! |
| Dys7 |
quote:
Originally posted by Advather:
Sorry to see that the release of this and other 2 Launch Bundle #3 albums was pushed back 2 and a half weeks. Does anyone have info on this? I understand that problems can arise, but some correspondence from them would have been nice. The only way I found out was by having another look through the HU store again today. Oh well. More time for the anticipation to build!
Yes, quite upset about this myself. Not even totally the fact it's pushed back, just that HU seems to be sort of side-stepping it out without any explanation. Surely there's an explanation for this - HU isn't the type of label to be that opaque. |
| Triquatra |
quote:
Originally posted by Advather:
is the Fires In The Sky on CD 1 the original or the facelift?
CDJay confirmed on a different thread that it is the original, not the facelift :) |
| Elipton |
I assume Dougal and Gammer actually know they have an album coming out, right? You'd have thought that not promoting HU was part of the contract they signed with Futureworld looking at their pages. I don't get it, did they get their money and that's the wrap as far as they're concerned? Bizarre. |
| DJ Hellfury |
Source for 2week delay message? |
| djDMS |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Hellfury:
Source for 2week delay message?
There isn't one, but says end of feb originally but his point is, says mid march on the website. |
| DJ Hellfury |
oh... thanks for pointing that one out |
| Vladel |
It's the brisk album I am most concerned with but it sucks there was no word on a delay |
| Dys7 |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Hellfury:
oh... thanks for pointing that one out
On hu.com the albums were dated for release 28th Feb, I looked the day of and they changed it to march 17 |
| Gisbo |
about ****ing time dark skies is a tune! |
| Elliott |
Anyone else reckon the facelift of Fires In The Sky sullied the good name of that tune? It was great for the most part but I couldn't stand that stab arp in the second phrase of the drop. :@ |
| _Jay_ |
Don't care about the delay. What the lads are doing at the moment is mental. I've barely gone through the material they've released recently - let alone ready to absorb another fifty-seven discs worth right now!
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| CDJay |
Unfortunately it took longer than we hoped to obtain all the assets, get everything to artists satisfaction, and sign off on a couple of the 'Launch Bundle 3' projects, due to the artists busy schedules. We have finally signed off on *everything* and 2/3 are already being manufactured with the third in close pursuit.
We've obviously wanted to keep everyone updated with revised timelines but until we actually had all the assets it was impossible to predict with any reliability if further delays could be expected. The last project will join the production queue and we will get a concrete window for delivery to us so we can ship out post haste!
Apologies for any inconvenience caused, we are doing (and have done) as much as we can to speed things along. They're worth the wait!
CDJay
edit: Ah, also, we've sort of announced what's going on with "Happy Hardcore Underground" so y'all can't be tooooo mad at me...... Right? *makes puppy dog eyes and tilts head* |
| Impulse_Response |
Thanks for the update CDJay! It's good to hear that everything is working out. Still excited about everything, and now I also have happy hardcore underground to look forward to. |
| latininxtc |
$5 says it's Brisk's album that's caused the delay lol |
| arpz |
I don't have Dougal on any social media (maybe twitter but I never use it) so I don't know about him but a few people have mentioned Gammers complete silence about this album, any idea why that would be? I'm genuinely interested in why he doesn't seem to be trying to promote this, I don't think I've even seen a single post regarding it |
| djDMS |
Looks like Dougal isn't exactly going overboard on the old promotion front either. |
| Elipton |
Maybe he signed the contract without knowing what it was. Could be really easy to pull off some Nigerian style fraud on him lol |
| latininxtc |
Well at least we have Kurt, Joey Riot, Marc Smith, CLSM, and a Sc@r, Brisk, Obie, Thumpa and maybe a few other non-HU djs/producers that thankfully do promote their HU-related projects. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
any idea why that would be?
Maybe, if there is anything to suspect, it's caused a row or two in the FW camp. That's based on absolutely nothing, though! |
| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
any idea why that would be?
Maybe, if there is anything to suspect, it's caused a row or two in the FW camp.
I suppose that's feasible.. thing is, I don't suppose the hordes of syncofans that have him on facebook or twitter will necessarily even know about HU and they'd all probably buy in a heartbeat, seems very silly for him to not be taking advantage of that fact - it's good for all parties if they sell loads! |
| Alexbturbo |
Come on now,
Gammer/Matt clearly has far more important things to do than promote an album project he's involved in. Judging by his FaceAche page, he's got to keep his minions happy by posting an endless number of selfies by the looks of it lmao
Judging by the amount on there, he posts more selfies of himself than a large number of women seem to do lol |
| The drunken scotsman |
Surely if it was going to cause problems with Futureworld then it wouldn't have got this far?? Wish it would hurry up either way, looking forward to it! |
| arpz |
Maybe FW said something like 'don't hurt MP3 sales by promoting this' or something? |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Maybe FW said something like 'don't hurt MP3 sales by promoting this' or something?
We should all do him a favour and promote it relentlessly all over his Facebook page. Breeze's, as well. |
| arpz |
I was thinking of doing that myself haha, the only other explanation I can think of is that he doesn't want to promote a preorder and would prefer to wait until it's available, which is obviously not that helpful but could have his reasons I suppose... if it comes to release date and there's still nothing then I really will be at a loss as to why |
| The drunken scotsman |
Someone just asked gammer on twitter what was happening with the album and he replied to say he has no idea what's happening. They finished and delivered the album ages ago apparently. |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Someone just asked gammer on twitter what was happening with the album and he replied to say he has no idea what's happening. They finished and delivered the album ages ago apparently.
How the hell could he have 'no idea'? Surely you'd be asking questions or keeping in touch about it or something. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Someone just asked gammer on twitter what was happening with the album and he replied to say he has no idea what's happening. They finished and delivered the album ages ago apparently.
How the hell could he have 'no idea'? Surely you'd be asking questions or keeping in touch about it or something.
The fact that he has no idea what's going on after sending the album to HU clearly shows how much he actually cares about the album, which looks like not at all.
That definitely isn't the case with Brisk. He's been putting previews up and updates on what's going on with this album all this time. Definitely wasn't the case with Marc Smith and Joey Riot and Kurt. Whenever new info was up on the release dates and delays, they were on top of it and mentioned any info to their facebook pages. |
| djDMS |
I have to admit, they're doing their best to put me off buying it. |
| arpz |
It's pissing me off, so strange |
| CDJay |
Whoooooah, calm down
There's been no concerted efforts to promote these albums because of the release date slip, you'll see a notable ramp up in promotion next week and certainly following shipping.
Dougal & Gammer were both incredibly excited by doing this album; check the January podcast for interview etc. There's no conspiracy, no evil empire intervention by FW.
There is precisely *no* logic in failing to promote your own artist album. It's a great album, offering exceptional value and a really good point of entry product.
The D&G album went off to proof before manufacture on the 5th of March, manufacturing commenced the end of that week. The standard turn around time we see is around 3 weeks. Delivery is expected on the 26th of March, to us.
CDJay
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| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There's no conspiracy, no evil empire intervention by FW.
But that's what you want us to think...!
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| arpz |
To be fair, you did say (somewhere) that preorders help you decide how many to press... |
| Rodz90 |
But i mean it still shouldn't stop people like Gammer at least posting the odd, "hey, be sure to check out my latest album; pre-order here:" type thing, instead of endless selfies of him acting like a 5 year old in airports.
It wouldn't hurt to promote early, probably the opposite. |
| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
To be fair, you did say (somewhere) that preorders help you decide how many to press...
^^ |
| CDJay |
They did.
CDJay |
| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
They did.
CDJay
Well...good! haha, guess it's no drama then, still think it's a bit weird that he doesn't wanna promote it, especially considering how much other shite he posts, still, each to their own |
| Gazza1712 |
Dougal played at the barn either the weekend just gone or the one before and is interviewed by Jon brown, he asks Dougal about the album which he just kinda says it's there work over the last ten years then goes on to say there will more likely be a Dougal and gammer artist album of all new bits later in the year, with collabs with Darren styles etc. |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Dougal played at the barn either the weekend just gone or the one before and is interviewed by Jon brown, he asks Dougal about the album which he just kinda says it's there work over the last ten years then goes on to say there will more likely be a Dougal and gammer artist album of all new bits later in the year, with collabs with Darren styles etc.
Very interesting man! That'd be good.
Who is Jon Brown, by the way? I follow him on SoundCloud and read his reviews and all that jazz. Is he just like a floating journalist within the scene, or does he have an affiliation with one of the big brands?
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| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Dougal played at the barn either the weekend just gone or the one before and is interviewed by Jon brown, he asks Dougal about the album which he just kinda says it's there work over the last ten years then goes on to say there will more likely be a Dougal and gammer artist album of all new bits later in the year, with collabs with Darren styles etc.
Very interesting man! That'd be good.
Who is Jon Brown, by the way? I follow him on SoundCloud and read his reviews and all that jazz. Is he just like a floating journalist within the scene, or does he have an affiliation with one of the big brands?
Agreed this would be great.
I think he's just a floating journalist, seen a few of his interviews and also follow him on soundcloud
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| Gazza1712 |
Not to sure what he does exactly but he has hosted things for htid like the model competition at there weekenders and stuff, kind of like a presenter type person, there is an interview of him with Jordan on the net, but think he does a lot for the scene, not sure what though haha !! |
| Mickey Init |
When I saw JB get mentioned, it reminded me of this...
http://youtu.be/x9z8U1jIbEk
It's not JB in the video, though!
Re: the D&G album, I hope the mix CD is good old-fashioned Dougal-style mixing. I'm not a fan of Gammer's mixing nowadays - I can see the talent but I find it to be a bit too choppy and 'stop-starty'. |
| Rodz90 |
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
When I saw JB get mentioned, it reminded me of this...
http://youtu.be/x9z8U1jIbEk
It's not JB in the video, though!
Re: the D&G album, I hope the mix CD is good old-fashioned Dougal-style mixing. I'm not a fan of Gammer's mixing nowadays - I can see the talent but I find it to be a bit too choppy and 'stop-starty'.
I think it is, if you listen to the HU podcast #5 it has a guestmix which is a snippet of the mix they've made for the album. The mix appears smooth with no choppy, stop-starty mixing evident. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Re: the D&G album, I hope the mix CD is good old-fashioned Dougal-style mixing. I'm not a fan of Gammer's mixing nowadays - I can see the talent but I find it to be a bit too choppy and 'stop-starty'.
Agreed, he's very talented on the decks but I find it quite annoying when he's playing live. Just when you think a great tune is about to kick in he'll mix it into something else. Frustrating.
Dougal is just no nonsense basic mixing but he does it very well. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Dougal is just no nonsense basic mixing but he does it very well.
He does. It's the best way to mix hardcore. Seduction was always good at mixing this way, too. Come to think of it, Sy's style was pretty good, too... You'd have little time to hear the incoming tune but once it dropped it was there to bop to!
Whatever the outcome, though (with the D&G album), I'm sure it'll be a good investment! I just wanted to give my two pennies' worth.
|
| Captain Triceps |
I'm all for the trickery and creative mixing, as long as you can do it well. Obviously if absolutely everyone was doing it, well or otherwise, then it wouldn't have the same impact, but it's nice that at least someone is doing something a bit different every now and then. I can understand the frustration people have with this style of mixing, and it is better kept to relatively short mixes of half an hour or so, but I love to hear it, and see it, too. |
| arpz |
Gammer aka Matt Lee - Official Page
4 mins ?
Yas!!! Dougal and Gammer album
^ hurrah. No actual information on how to get it or anything, but it's something! :D
edit: i've furnished the horde with the information on where to get it ;D |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Gammer aka Matt Lee - Official Page
4 mins ?
Yas!!! Dougal and Gammer album
^ hurrah. No actual information on how to get it or anything, but it's something! :D
edit: i've furnished the horde with the information on where to get it ;D
Yea that's ridiculous that the most essential info on purchasing the album was left out. And look how EXTREMELY clueless his fan base was about this album! |
| arpz |
It's truly ridiculous, not at all surprising though. I don't understand how people can be SO enthusiastic about something ("NEED!", "How do i get this now? must have" etc) yet not know anything about it at the same time.
Now obviously Gammer hasn't done anything at all to fix that, but you would expect that people that would get that excited about an album would know a few other sources of info for news etc.
Why the hell would Gammer not leave the information? It's truly incredible, even now he hasn't corrected/updated anything in that post. I really want some sort of idea as to wtf has gone through his head! I was all like 'yeah whatever, fair enough' a page ago but seeing him 'promote' it in such a piss poor way has left me stunned again. It's currently easier to find out about a 3 month old free mix (#Qwerkout) from his facebook page than it is to find out about his album that released TODAY. That #qwerkout thing had what you could almost describe as a 'marketing campaign' lavished on it with all the secret build up etc so why on earth could this man not even manage to post a URL to purchase his album?
gah. |
| latininxtc |
Just checked Gammer's twitter, and same thing just a post of the pic of the album. Same goes for Dougal, nothing on his twitter, or his personal FB profile which you can easily follow. |
| Vladel |
It is truely baffling how those guys haven't pushed their album. |
| arpz |
I feel more inclined to give Dougal the benefit of the doubt since I haven't ever seen much social media output from him. Gammer is multiple posts every day of all manner of stupid nonsense...mind is blown. |
| arpz |
Gammer aka Matt Lee - Official Page
20 mins ?
Sup guys! Info about the Dougal and Gammer album 'first order' can be found here
But to answer a few questions
- The album is 4 CDs
- CDs 1-3 are unmixed and full length
- there's some unreleased goodies exclusive to this album
- Currently it's Physical only!
<and tracklist>
Hurrah! He's done it now, that's good :) |
| The drunken scotsman |
For those who were looking for nostalgia. Looks like gammer will be putting it up for free dl soon along with good life (bad day) |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Gammer aka Matt Lee - Official Page
20 mins ?
Sup guys! Info about the Dougal and Gammer album 'first order' can be found here
But to answer a few questions
- The album is 4 CDs
- CDs 1-3 are unmixed and full length
- there's some unreleased goodies exclusive to this album
- Currently it's Physical only!
<and tracklist>
Hurrah! He's done it now, that's good :)
yes but WHY wait until now to do it? no harm in promoting the album including details during its pre-order phase. |
| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Gammer aka Matt Lee - Official Page
20 mins ?
Sup guys! Info about the Dougal and Gammer album 'first order' can be found here
But to answer a few questions
- The album is 4 CDs
- CDs 1-3 are unmixed and full length
- there's some unreleased goodies exclusive to this album
- Currently it's Physical only!
<and tracklist>
Hurrah! He's done it now, that's good :)
yes but WHY wait until now to do it? no harm in promoting the album including details during its pre-order phase.
I definitely agree, and I doubt we'll ever find out why but I do have a feeling there is some actual reason behind it, just don't know what
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| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
For those who were looking for nostalgia. Looks like gammer will be putting it up for free dl soon along with good life (bad day)
He's not actually said it'f the freebie (I don't think), so it could possibly be for sale like he has done before with some other tracks outside of Futureworld.
Chances are it is free, though. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
For those who were looking for nostalgia. Looks like gammer will be putting it up for free dl soon along with good life (bad day)
He's not actually said it'f the freebie (I don't think), so it could possibly be for sale like he has done before with some other tracks outside of Futureworld.
Chances are it is free, though.
Yeah I'm just having an educated guess tbh. He's mentioned that he's giving away 2 free tracks soon and was doing artwork for them so kinda makes sense that its these two. Either way they're coming out soon. There was a few people on here desperate for nostalgia to be released, not too fussed about it myself
|
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
For those who were looking for nostalgia. Looks like gammer will be putting it up for free dl soon along with good life (bad day)
He's not actually said it'f the freebie (I don't think), so it could possibly be for sale like he has done before with some other tracks outside of Futureworld.
Chances are it is free, though.
Yeah I'm just having an educated guess tbh. He's mentioned that he's giving away 2 free tracks soon and was doing artwork for them so kinda makes sense that its these two. Either way they're coming out soon. There was a few people on here desperate for nostalgia to be released, not too fussed about it myself
I really like it actually. I remember first hearing when it was posted on USH (that's how long ago!). I predicted yonks ago that it was gonna be given as a freebie, I don't know why. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
There was a few people on here desperate for nostalgia to be released, not too fussed about it myself
'Nostalgia' would be a good freebie! 'Back 2 Front' is his best tune, though, IMHO! Really liked his remix of 'Big Sky', too. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
For those who were looking for nostalgia. Looks like gammer will be putting it up for free dl soon along with good life (bad day)
He's not actually said it'f the freebie (I don't think), so it could possibly be for sale like he has done before with some other tracks outside of Futureworld.
Chances are it is free, though.
Yeah I'm just having an educated guess tbh. He's mentioned that he's giving away 2 free tracks soon and was doing artwork for them so kinda makes sense that its these two. Either way they're coming out soon. There was a few people on here desperate for nostalgia to be released, not too fussed about it myself
I really like it actually. I remember first hearing when it was posted on USH (that's how long ago!). I predicted yonks ago that it was gonna be given as a freebie, I don't know why.
I'll probably take it if it's free but I don't think id go out my way to buy it. It's not so much I dislike it, I just think it's massively over rated. The reaction it got when everyone first heard it was way over the top imo. If that had been made 5 or 6 years ago nobody would've cared, but because it came at a time when 'dubcore' was rife everyone seemed to love it. No more than a set filler for me. |
| Elipton |
Good Life and Nostalgia are both wonderful tracks. I'm really glad they'll be free. |
| trippnface |
I ordered this with launch bundle 3, if I am in the US when could I expect to see it :D |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
I ordered this with launch bundle 3, if I am in the US when could I expect to see it :D
Mid-April at the latest. Took me about 2 full weeks to receive my last items. |
| trippnface |
sweet, ty for the heads up man. ugh. just gunna forget about it for awhile haha |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
sweet, ty for the heads up man. ugh. just gunna forget about it for awhile haha
You never know though you might get it sooner. I shockingly had one HU package come to me the same week it was sent out. It was sent out maybe like a Tuesday and miraculously it was here by friday or saturday. |
| The drunken scotsman |
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more.
I don't have any dollars ;-) |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more.
I don't have any dollars ;-)
Groats and crowns, innit.
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| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more.
I don't have any dollars ;-)
Groats and crowns, innit.
After septembers independence vote we could be dealing in thistles and haggis :-D |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more.
I don't have any dollars ;-)
Groats and crowns, innit.
After septembers independence vote we could be dealing in thistles and haggis :-D
Alright you bitches know what I mean. quids you skanks! |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Just ordered d&g album and brisk album. Really looking forward to both.
might as well have gotten the DJ Tools album it would have been just a few dollars more.
I don't have any dollars ;-)
Groats and crowns, innit.
After septembers independence vote we could be dealing in thistles and haggis :-D
Alright you bitches know what I mean. quids you skanks!
I'll pay you 6 thistles to shut the **** up! |
| djDMS |
The queue to help rebuild Hadrian's wall already stretches as far as Devon! :-p |
| SaucePotSexton |
So this (and the rest of Bundle 3) have been shipped, right?
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
I'll pay you 6 thistles to shut the **** up!
LOL.
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
The queue to help rebuild Hadrian's wall already stretches as far as Devon! :-p
LOL.
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| _Jay_ |
^^^Oooops. Was logged in as Sexton.^^^
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| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
^^^Oooops. Was logged in as Sexton.^^^
I'm beginning to think that sexton is actually your female alter ego. |
| _Jay_ |
Ha ha ha! I can see how one might think that, but people from here have actually met her and can confirm that she is indeed real.
And knows her beats.
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| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
Ha ha ha! I can see how one might think that, but people from here have actually met her and can confirm that she is indeed real.
And knows her beats.
Il take your word for it sext.... Sorry jay :-D
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| CDJay |
quote:
Originally posted by SaucePotSexton:
So this (and the rest of Bundle 3) have been shipped, right?
I got up to Order #1659, by 2:30 p.m yesterday at which point a thunderstorm coincided with my internet going down. This forced me to scramble around the local area looking for anywhere to finalise what I had already packed and entered, online, and get the supporting documentation for pickup printed. Which I managed with 5 minutes spare, heh.
The Royal Mail DMO system is down from midday today until tomorrow afternoon, as they "upgrade" their system (this is code for "we are changing the name of Airsure to something else" I suspect) so I will have to process the rest ready to go out Monday.
CDJay
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| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I got up to Order #1659
Is that the actual number of orders (that you'd got to so far) just for this album? That's good numbers if that's the case man, nice.
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
DMO
Amazing vocalist.
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| CDJay |
Nah, that's total store orders. The bulk of orders are for multiple products, though.
In and over time I'd expect those sort of numbers to be possible, on major projects, but we're not there yet.
So, yea, if your order number is higher than 1659 it will ship Monday.
(DMO stands for Despatch Manager Online, although DMO is great vocalist )
We actually crossed 2000 total orders yesterday! So, thanks all for your support. It's a genuine investment not just in a specific project, but in a mode of operation. The better sales are the easier it becomes to magic cool stuff into existence.
CDJay |
| _Jay_ |
Yeah, I was gonna say - 1659 orders just for this album alone would be fantastic.
Pretty cool numbers though overall man. 2000 orders - good number of those being bundles. GOOD SHIT MATE.
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| arpz |
It's things! They exist! YES! :D :D :D :D |
| Torpex |
:) |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
It's things! They exist! YES! :D :D :D :D
Sooty & Sweep! Classic!
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| arpz |
Oh yeah, Sweep loves a bit of a stomp haha |
| Claxton |
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| CDJay |
Nice photo!
This is all foreplay for "Live @ Rehab" which stands every chance of being a landmark/seminal event, rejuvenating the wider scene. Nothing less.
See y'all there. Bring you and yours
CDJay |
| djDMS |
My order # was 1973.
Looks like a bit of a wait! |
| _Jay_ |
'1746 - I was pretty close!
|
| CDJay |
Got up to 1837 today, wasted 4 hours in town trying to do an international transfer.
We will be up to date tomorrow!
CDJay |
| djDMS |
I can wait. On a bit of a HU back catalogue listening rampage this week anyway. |
| _Jay_ |
Nice man!! Really looking forward to getting mine. The snaps I'm seeing of the four discs all unfolded out looking fcuking fit.
|
| CDJay |
Penance for pausatus
CDJay |
| Rodz90 |
Got mine today
Some brilliant tracks, i don't really think it's necessary to leave a "proper" review, we all know most of these tracks and this is more of a collectors thing. Although i will say the mix is great to listen to and it's nice to have some sought after gems. |
| Quicksilver |
Can't wait, got the mail today that the bundle has been shipped! PLEASE COME ON FRIDAY, NOT MONDAY!!  |
| Mickey Init |
Where can I find a good JPEG of the album artwork? I'm a bit of a pixel snob like that!
It would be sweet if CDJay put ALL of the HU albums'/releases' artwork in the gallery on the HU site |
| arpz |
I've just noticed something in the booklet, all the tracks are credited to Essential Platinum, despite some of them being Futureworld releases, presumably this means that they still keep the rights to the tracks despite them being put out by Futureworld? Also, CD3 only lists credits for two tracks (Back Home, Knight in Shining Armour), is this an error or something else? |
| CDJay |
First off, we will add 500x500 cover images to the gallery as requested.
The reason for CD3 not having complete label copy is the duplication on CD4; rather than pointlessly expanding to an 8 page booklet simply to accommodate redundant info we presented it so that any given track has label copy should someone be interested.
Our original plan was to have fairly comprehensive booklets containing any and all relevant project info, as well as past, present and future releases. The problem is that this is a significant cost with a *lot* of pointless duplication. It makes more sense to have flyers or catalogues which are posted out with every order and keep the per project costs down. So that's the plan, going forward.
Stuff like "Filth & Dumb Hatred", or the "Balancing Act" reissue, won't even have a booklet at all,as the label copy can handily sit on the panel.
As for any label/credit stuff, it is as supplied and only checked for spelling/crediting/formatting errors by us so I can't answer any questions about rights etc.
Hope you're all either already enjoying, or about to receive, the album(s)!
CDJay
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| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
First off, we will add 500x500 cover images to the gallery as requested.
The reason for CD3 not having complete label copy is the duplication on CD4; rather than pointlessly expanding to an 8 page booklet simply to accommodate redundant info we presented it so that any given track has label copy should someone be interested.
Our original plan was to have fairly comprehensive booklets containing any and all relevant project info, as well as past, present and future releases. The problem is that this is a significant cost with a *lot* of pointless duplication. It makes more sense to have flyers or catalogues which are posted out with every order and keep the per project costs down. So that's the plan, going forward.
Stuff like "Filth & Dumb Hatred", or the "Balancing Act" reissue, won't even have a booklet at all,as the label copy can handily sit on the panel.
As for any label/credit stuff, it is as supplied and only checked for spelling/crediting/formatting errors by us so I can't answer any questions about rights etc.
Hope you're all either already enjoying, or about to receive, the album(s)!
CDJay
Cheers :) Yes, they're all brilliant, I've been selecting tracks for a 'tracks from recent(ish) HU CDs' mix but there's *so* many it's taking some time to get a shortlist haha |
| Quicksilver |
Got the bundle today, yaaay!
So far, listened to this album. I knew half of the tracks so I skipped some of them. Overall, I'm as already known overjoyed to have a digital full version of Fires In The Sky and after listening to the facelift I'm like: "FULL VERSION PLX?!". I like them both very much! Also the facelift of All My Life, when/where can we get this? Is that a FW deal?
Overall, a good album. Some gems, some new discoveries and some crap tunes (unfortunately). :) |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Got the bundle today, yaaay!
So far, listened to this album. I knew half of the tracks so I skipped some of them. Overall, I'm as already known overjoyed to have a digital full version of Fires In The Sky and after listening to the facelift I'm like: "FULL VERSION PLX?!". I like them both very much! Also the facelift of All My Life, when/where can we get this? Is that a FW deal?
Overall, a good album. Some gems, some new discoveries and some crap tunes (unfortunately). :)
Bro beans, you can get the Facelift mix of Fires In The Sky from Gammer's label: Gammer: The Archives.
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| Quicksilver |
Oooooooohhhhhh! |
| djDMS |
I didn't know that! |
| piumaki |
Not a big issue to be honest, but I am the only one who doesnt have artwork and id tag on cd 2,3,4 after rippin the cd on my laptop?
Anyway, I m gonna start listen to the album! |
| Quicksilver |
Didn't have any tags on any of the bundle CDs... :P Had to type every CD (8 in total) manually. |
| CDJay |
There is CD text, but not online database presence.
I'm investigating ways to get precisely that for past, present and future projects!
CDJay |
| piumaki |
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There is CD text, but not online database presence.
I'm investigating ways to get precisely that for past, present and future projects!
CDJay
Dont know why, but for example CD 1 (or the whole Brisk album) is perfectly tagged
Anyway, tag or not tag, I'm enjoying it very much!!!! :D |
| Rodz90 |
quote:
Originally posted by piumaki:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There is CD text, but not online database presence.
I'm investigating ways to get precisely that for past, present and future projects!
CDJay
Dont know why, but for example CD 1 (or the whole Brisk album) is perfectly tagged
Anyway, tag or not tag, I'm enjoying it very much!!!! :D
I don't think there is CD text for cd's 2,3,and 4 for First Order. iTunes would have grabbed it if there was |
| CDJay |
iTunes never grabs cd text. It seeks online database info.
CDJay |
| Rodz90 |
Yeah from the Gracenote database, but then how come all of Brisks CDs, the first disc of first order and dj tools track lists turn up fine? Perhaps as a secondary source of data iTunes checks for a CD text file when it can't find anything through Gracenote. If i was programming an application its exactly how i would do it. |
| Elliott |
What's up with the DJ mix? It's like the CXH-style instant crossover thing, wouldn't really call it a mix. |
| brodster |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
What's up with the DJ mix? It's like the CXH-style instant crossover thing, wouldn't really call it a mix.
Well that is how Gammer likes to mix |
| GrahamC |
Flies in the face of the interview they did on the HU Podcast where they said they wanted to do longer mixing and stuff, tricks etc.
Compared to the DJ mix on the Brisk album (which has has set the standard now for me as far as artist album mixes go!) this was absolute cak :( |
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:
Originally posted by piumaki:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There is CD text, but not online database presence.
I'm investigating ways to get precisely that for past, present and future projects!
CDJay
Dont know why, but for example CD 1 (or the whole Brisk album) is perfectly tagged
Anyway, tag or not tag, I'm enjoying it very much!!!! :D
I don't think there is CD text for cd's 2,3,and 4 for First Order. iTunes would have grabbed it if there was
Whenever I get new CDs from smaller labels that are not tagged I submit to Gracenote. Not this time round, somebody beat me to it :) For some reason though, with this album it was not interested in CDs 2-4. I could not submit the info for love nor money :( |
| Samination |
gracenote is crapt anyways. If you got mp3tag, it can scrobble Discogs for information |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
Flies in the face of the interview they did on the HU Podcast where they said they wanted to do longer mixing and stuff, tricks etc.
Compared to the DJ mix on the Brisk album (which has has set the standard now for me as far as artist album mixes go!) this was absolute cak :(
They really took an incredibly lazy approach to the album in general. :( |
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
Flies in the face of the interview they did on the HU Podcast where they said they wanted to do longer mixing and stuff, tricks etc.
Compared to the DJ mix on the Brisk album (which has has set the standard now for me as far as artist album mixes go!) this was absolute cak :(
They really took an incredibly lazy approach to the album in general. :(
True that! |
| arpz |
Yeah the mix was complete toss, couldn't be less interesting. |
| latininxtc |
Well that's disappointing to hear about the mixing. With these artist albums for me the mix is what matters most. If it's a terrible mix, then it kind of brings down the whole album. |
| Dys7 |
Honestly the reason that broke the straw for me to not buy this album was the titles. If the creators and main backers of an album are going to be that unprofessional, it can be reasonably expected they'll treat the rest of the album the same way. I mean, there's being silly, and then there's literally whining on the titles of your CDs.
Though no disrespect to CDJay or HU Crew of course, they're golden.
Glad I didn't get it now.
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| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
Honestly the reason that broke the straw for me to not buy this album was the titles. If the creators and main backers of an album are going to be that unprofessional, it can be reasonably expected they'll treat the rest of the album the same way. I mean, there's being silly, and then there's literally whining on the titles of your CDs.
Though no disrespect to CDJay or HU Crew of course, they're golden.
Glad I didn't get it now.
Yea, the CD titles are more fitting as joke-titles on online mixes. |
| Elliott |
It's quite clear that Dougal & Gammer didn't really give a shit about the project but considering they only had to put up 2 old unreleased tunes and do an incredibly half-assed "mix", it would've been crazy not to do the album.
Bearing in mind that the mix isn't worth listening to a second time, you're basically paying ?15 for Dark Skies and Corruption For The Weekend. Most of us have already got all the other tunes.
Your move, I guess.
Edit: I'm aware of the stigma about criticising anything put out by HU on here but no amount of underground credibility or favour should stop us from calling out a poor project. Personally, I feel like Dougal & Gammer shafted HU with the amount of effort they put in. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
Edit: I'm aware of the stigma about criticising anything put out by HU on here but no amount of underground credibility or favour should stop us from calling out a poor project. Personally, I feel like Dougal & Gammer shafted HU with the amount of effort they put in.
Meh say what you want CDJay appreciates criticism whether it's good or bad. He even gives feedback back to whatever we post usually :)
I've given nothing but good overall praise for all the HU projects and it's not because it's HU, it's because their projects are usually that good, but admittedly there's a reason why I have never given a review of HU Presents 2013. And it's probably better that I don't  |
| The drunken scotsman |
Main reason I got this album was for the unmixed tunes on the first 3 cd's. The majority I already had on vinyl but not digitally. Still a good album and well worth the money. The mix cd is decent enough. |
| djDMS |
I haven't bought it simply because there isn't enough there that i don't already have. If i find myself with a bit of extra cash I'll buy it because it's a CD and it looks nice.
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| CDJay |
There's no stigma for criticising HU projects on here, did everyone miss the Vladel review of the Brisk album?
I think people are being somewhat harsh re: the mix on this CD, it is a timing reverse structured showcase and it's eminently listenable. It's not a "traditional" mix, granted, and this project is what it was always intended to be; a high value platter showcasing a range of work by a prolific and enduring artist pairing. It's phenomenal value, however it's span. It's also selling very well, so it's got a motivated and sated market which is more than most things that happen in the scene at this point can claim.
"Proper" artist album(s) may well follow, for those who feel like following breadcrumbs.
I'm still somewhat flabbergasted that vast swathes of the scene have managed to pretend that a Brisk *and* Dougal & Gammer album didn't come out on the same day which would seem worth celebrating. Yet at this point it's futile to overthink it. Either people start working as a scene, or they will:
Option A - Fall behind into obsolescence, due to lack of engagement with relevant and active parties and a willingness to work as part of a greater good
Option B - Be part of a scene that has died because any reason to follow it wasn't apparent to those who might have
CDJay
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| arpz |
The collection in itself is great, admittedly I did own a majority of the tunes already but never before in perfect quality and it's great to have this collection and all in one place. (And at the price point too!)
I can't agree with CDJays opinion about the responses to the mix, though. It's a showcase of the tunes but I don't think it provides anything more than the sum of it's parts, which is essentially covered by the first three discs. The mix should be exciting, especially coming from this pair but there's nothing in it to suggest that it was even mixed by Dougal himself, let alone by Gammer. I was really quite shocked to hear such an uninventive effort on the mix.
The level of care and attention lavished on the Brisk album is in contrast to this, and I assume the comments about lack of engagement etc referred to that album which is in my opinion head and shoulders above this.
Sorry if that came across as overly negative, I'll reiterate that I am still very happy with the collection and still see it as a must-purchase for any half serious fan of hardcore.
Also, Happy Birthday CDJay! :) |
| trippnface |
I purchased both and am definitely happy. actually my first non digital release purchase of anything in yearsssss. after my buddyy bought HU6 I had to give back to the team :p. I think some people wanted more fresh d & g tunes, that are bangers. not too big on burn or float away, or a lot of the new stuff. just being the legends they are, they set a high precedent, and we expect a lot haha. for instance their mix on true hardcore 2 is so good, it becomes hard to top that. seriously. I needed a lot of those tunes, def worth it for me
really pleased with brisks as well, him and Darwin do some ace stuff, every cd was boss.
already pre ordered the new f & d bundle, and I cant wait to see what else HU has up their sleeves^.^ plus the eloquently typed excerpt from CDJay was awesome. def happy birthday man |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
The mix should be exciting, especially coming from this pair but there's nothing in it to suggest that it was even mixed by Dougal himself, let alone by Gammer. I was really quite shocked to hear such an uninventive effort on the mix.
Amen to that, although I respect that CDJay can't turn around and say anything negative about it regardless of his opinion.
Given the amount of effort Gammer seemingly puts into the mixes he subsequently releases for free (e.g. low budget mix CD, #qwerkout), you would be forgiven for thinking that the mix for a paid album would be just as exciting.
Like I said before, I believe Dougal & Gammer shafted HU. They put shockingly little effort into promoting it and contributed a boring mix. It seems to have been a fuck-and-forget affair for those guys. A business opportunity that would've been stupid to ignore. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
Edit: I'm aware of the stigma about criticising anything put out by HU on here but no amount of underground credibility or favour should stop us from calling out a poor project. Personally, I feel like Dougal & Gammer shafted HU with the amount of effort they put in.
Meh say what you want CDJay appreciates criticism whether it's good or bad. He even gives feedback back to whatever we post usually :)
I've given nothing but good overall praise for all the HU projects and it's not because it's HU, it's because their projects are usually that good, but admittedly there's a reason why I have never given a review of HU Presents 2013. And it's probably better that I don't
Fair enough mate! :)
What I say isn't really intended to put people off buying the album. For anyone who isn't a rabid fanboy with 95% of the tracks already, it represents great value for money. Sadly I'm a rabid fanboy!
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| fakka13k |
How about a dj Sy album then boys?? |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
Compared to the DJ mix on the Brisk album (which has has set the standard now for me as far as artist album mixes go!) this was absolute cak :(
I quite liked it as well. And I like that he had the balls to do a live mix on there. :) |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by fakka13k:
How about a dj Sy album then boys??
not gonna happen. doesn't seem like sy has any interest in making new music, and a classics album means he'll have to work with chris unknown on some, if not, all of the album, and that's not gonna happen. |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by fakka13k:
How about a dj Sy album then boys??
not gonna happen. doesn't seem like sy has any interest in making new music, and a classics album means he'll have to work with chris unknown on some, if not, all of the album, and that's not gonna happen.
I spoke to him in person in March after a set and he said he will never be making new Hardcore again.
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| Quicksilver |
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by fakka13k:
How about a dj Sy album then boys??
not gonna happen. doesn't seem like sy has any interest in making new music, and a classics album means he'll have to work with chris unknown on some, if not, all of the album, and that's not gonna happen.
I spoke to him in person in March after a set and he said he will never be making new Hardcore again.
Party pooper.
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| Mickey Init |
Just ripping the unmixed CDs into iTunes... God, how good is "Lift Me Above"? That and "Sensory Vision" were amazing tunes at the time. |
| Mickey Init |
P.S. I've only just discovered WAV encoder on iTunes
That's 4 years of my life I'll never get back  |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
Just ripping the unmixed CDs into iTunes... God, how good is "Lift Me Above"? That and "Sensory Vision" were amazing tunes at the time.
Life me above has one of the best breakdowns I've heard in a hardcore tune, but the drop is slightly disappointing. I actually appreciate it a lot more now than I did when it first came out, maybe that's because of the overall decline in hardcore over the past few years. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Life me above has one of the best breakdowns I've heard in a hardcore tune, but the drop is slightly disappointing. I actually appreciate it a lot more now than I did when it first came out, maybe that's because of the overall decline in hardcore over the past few years.
Yeah I'd agree... I remember thinking that about the drop for both tunes when I first heard Bonkers 14 but I can see past that nowadays and like both tunes overall - two great tunes. |
| _Jay_ |
Ahh man, Lift Me Above is truly gorgeous. The atmospheric section with vocal with slow supporting piano is just exactly what Hardcore is all about. Proper beautiful stuff.
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| Conviction |
I'm looking for a physical copy of this to buy, if anyone knows anywhere I could try. I've looked on discogs and eBay but nothing. |
| Samination |
If you just want the tracks, buying it digitally is the cheapest and quickest. |
