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CDJay Release Date: Monday, May 12th, 2014

Exclusively from http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk/store

'Fracus & Darwin - Filth And Dumb Hatred'

01. Crazy For Your Love (Vs. Michael Mansion)
02. Free From Form
03. Succeed (Feat. Mark Slammer)
04. Floor Burn
05. Coming Back To Me (Album Mix)
06. Oh Yeah
07. Slip Away (Feat. Jessica Palmer)
08. Little Shadows (Feat. M'iA)
09. Stabilize
10. About To Fly (Feat. Poison Rain)
11. Remember The Reason (Vs. Michael Mansion)
12. Know What It Takes (Feat. Jeston Langland)
13. Ready To Rock
14. End On A Hard Note

Also available in a bundle with a SE re-issue of "Balancing Act". Which, alongside a bonus track, and updated masters, is in a digipak on a proper CD. This makes me disproportionately happy.

'Fracus & Darwin - Balancing Act (Re-mastered Special Edition)


01. Comin' Down (Vs. Michael Mansion)
02. Freedom (Feat. Kyla)
03. Now I'm Free
04. Come Home
05. Don't Tell Me (Feat. Chwhynny)
06. Realms & Rough-Cuts (Album Mix)
07. Breakaway
08. Start Again
09. Out Of Control (Feat. Kyla)
10. Moment 2 Moment (Nu Foundation Remix)
11. Love Obsession (Feat. Cat Knight)
12. Everlasting (Feat. Donna Grassie)
13. Midsummer Flashback (Feat. Kelly C)
14. Subsystem (Vs. Entity)
15. Falling Out Of Love (Feat. Lisa Abbott)
16. (Bonus Track) - You Are My Oxygen (Feat. Ant Johnson)

CDJay
djDMS Sold.
Cyrax the clips are really good so far so I will be purchasing
SaucePotSexton This makes me super duper excited :)
arpz Oh go on then! :D

CDJay, still aint received that HU3 (or 4, I forgot, the 3 quid one). Did we reach some kind of conclusion on that because I'd be happy if you just put it in with this order when I do it?
CDJay Gah! I keep forgetting about it, am in midst of HHU horror (in addition to the usual).

I will post it out today!

CDJay
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Gah! I keep forgetting about it, am in midst of HHU horror (in addition to the usual).

I will post it out today!

CDJay



SCAM LABEL! WOULD NOT BUY AGAIN!

(hurry up with those preorder links eh? :D)
CDJay It's already up on the store, has been since before I posted this here

CDJay
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
It's already up on the store, has been since before I posted this here

CDJay



I'll backpedal a touch then, payday on Friday haha
brodster And Hardcore Underground takes my money once again. Some of my absolute favorite UK Hardcore Tracks were on Balancing Act. The fact that they are being remastered makes my ears happy.
Samination is this like the other albums, more breakbeat oriented?
CDJay They haven't been, proportionately. On this the are 4 breakbeat tracks, one of which is 4 beat. Out of 14.

There are clips on the store page, although we have very intentionally left off the first and last track so people don't completely ruin the first time listen

CDJay
latininxtc Loving this tracklist! Although some of these tracks have been out there for sometime, I'm glad that I can FINALLY own these tracks!
kazukism92 Just shut up and take my money I don't gonna miss this album guys :3.
piumaki And my pre order is placed :P
whittle1 Listen, that track-list for Filth And Dumb Hatred is dope, but is there any way we can order that album by itself?
I'm really not interested in buying a remastered album I already own.
CDJay
quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
Listen, that track-list for Filth And Dumb Hatred is dope, but is there any way we can order that album by itself?
I'm really not interested in buying a remastered album I already own.



On release day, the pre-order bundle will stop and be replaced by discrete products at 9.99 for "Filth & Dumb Hatred" and 5 for "Balancing Act" Reissue

CDJay
Mansy Thats good to no :) i dont need the balancing act album either ;)
CDJay ... But it's remastered, on a proper cd, in decent packaging, for 3 quid. I can't fathom wanting to own a massively inferior version of something when a notably better example exists.

Admittedly this is why I have a lot of imported dvds in my loft.

CDJay
djDMS I don't NEED it, still bought it though.

At that price, the improved quality (AND the extra track) made it an easy purchase.
GrahamC I didn't need to think twice, both scooped up at a bargain price!

Like a silly sod I forgot to tag on the second album. Next order though, HHUG & the other upcoming goodies, I can bolt it onto that :)
CDJay

Shipping from today!

It's really rather good.

CDJay
arpz Who is that bird that does the voice for all these videos?

She's got the 'Fracus & Darwin' down so well.
CDJay Probably because she's done a fair few things involving their names, I guess.

I'm not going to say who she is as others will no doubt start using her

CDJay
djchexmixer
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Shipping from today!

It's really rather good.

CDJay




Aw yea! Been getting the CDs rather quickly out here in California by the way. Thanks!
Mr igloo This album has a little bit of everything, really refreshing to hear.
CDJay Right, they're turning up now (even in places like Sweden).



CDJay
djDMS Fingers crossed!
arpz OH MY GOD

END ON A HARD NOTE!!!!!!!


Wow wow wow yes! Alongside the rest of the awesome, what an album :D :D :D :D
CDJay ... Aaand that's why we didn't put clips of the first and last tracks up.

CDJay
djDMS
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
OH MY GOD

END ON A HARD NOTE!!!!!!!


Wow wow wow yes! Alongside the rest of the awesome, what an album :D :D :D :D



That's almost exactly what i was planning to write!

Utterly ridiculous tune.
arpz I was hooked long before the piano and vocal kicked in....great great track
Mickey Init Great album! Need to give Bombs Away a blast tomorrow!

Can't wait for the artwork to be added to the HU gallery, CDJay!
arpz Yeah same, Bombs away is going in the car for the commute tomorrow.

Whilst people are clamouring for you to do things CDJay, how about that Brisk track? Finish that line... ? :)
CDJay Ah, crap.

*moves up list*

Seriously, our lives atm are F**ing insane. We're launching these albums, finalising HHU *and* doing Live @ Rehab as an event and album.

There is surprisingly little crossover between the three.

Good for scene. Bad for HU staff sanity,

CDJay
arpz It's all love :)
Dys7
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Ah, crap.

*moves up list*

Seriously, our lives atm are F**ing insane. We're launching these albums, finalising HHU *and* doing Live @ Rehab as an event and album.

There is surprisingly little crossover between the three.

Good for scene. Bad for HU staff sanity,

CDJay



HHU mentioned separately from finalization of albums? Wonder what you guys could be doing...

arpz
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Yeah same, Bombs away is going in the car for the commute tomorrow.



Yeah, that was dreadful... should've taken FaDH. I've never been a fan of the whole boyband type vocal thing so I have to say it really is not my cup of tea. I'm not sad to have bought it because of *support the labels* but I doubt it'll come out of the case again
latininxtc
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Yeah same, Bombs away is going in the car for the commute tomorrow.



Yeah, that was dreadful... should've taken FaDH. I've never been a fan of the whole boyband type vocal thing so I have to say it really is not my cup of tea. I'm not sad to have bought it because of *support the labels* but I doubt it'll come out of the case again



I heard the samples of that, and it is very samey. Definitely not a fan of that, and may be the first HU album project that I would never buy. I'm definitely all for supporting HU as a label, but that one is a bit too much of a miss for me.

Also to add, I've never even heard of this guy ever until I heard about this project. I'm thinking, who the fuck is this guy??? And it's a bit of an embarrassment to release something like that alongside a brilliant artist album series that just keeps getting better and offers such an amazing variety.
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
Yeah same, Bombs away is going in the car for the commute tomorrow.



Yeah, that was dreadful... should've taken FaDH. I've never been a fan of the whole boyband type vocal thing so I have to say it really is not my cup of tea. I'm not sad to have bought it because of *support the labels* but I doubt it'll come out of the case again



I heard the samples of that, and it is very samey. Definitely not a fan of that, and may be the first HU album project that I would never buy. I'm definitely all for supporting HU as a label, but that one is a bit too much of a miss for me.

Also to add, I've never even heard of this guy ever until I heard about this project. I'm thinking, who the fuck is this guy??? And it's a bit of an embarrassment to release something like that alongside a brilliant artist album series that just keeps getting better and offers such an amazing variety.



Yeah, I'm still not actually sure who he is, I'm assuming he's the vocalist as well as the producer. It's not marked up HUDSCD for the cat# so I don't suppose you can really say it's released 'alongside'
CDJay Different strokes, and all that.

I'm entirely aware the sort of people who follow HU religiously might not take to "Bombs Away", in the same way that I'm aware that a fair few casual ravers wouldn't take to "Filth And Dumb Hatred".

Rescue is a Scottish hardcore producer, young, motivated, under the GTYM banner. He writes and sings vocals, plays instruments, and is generally rather talented.

Whilst it isn't an HU project, directly, meaning we've had no creative input or involvement, I'm very keen to support fresh talent in doing something original. As a label, we're having to move from doing just our "core" projects to engaging and supporting the wider scene. This means there will be stuff all across the spectrum.

The whole "I haven't even heard of" thing was being levelled at F&D when "Balancing Act" came out. Finding new artists is a good thing. Watching them, and supporting, their development is a good thing. There will be a sizeable section of our scene that really enjoy "Bombs Away", and having something "real" to wave around and be excited by which keeps them around. I'll drink to that

CDJay
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Different strokes, and all that.

I'm entirely aware the sort of people who follow HU religiously might not take to "Bombs Away", in the same way that I'm aware that a fair few casual ravers wouldn't take to "Filth And Dumb Hatred".

Rescue is a Scottish hardcore producer, young, motivated, under the GTYM banner. He writes and sings vocals, plays instruments, and is generally rather talented.

Whilst it isn't an HU project, directly, meaning we've had no creative input or involvement, I'm very keen to support fresh talent in doing something original. As a label, we're having to move from doing just our "core" projects to engaging and supporting the wider scene. This means there will be stuff all across the spectrum.

The whole "I haven't even heard of" thing was being levelled at F&D when "Balancing Act" came out. Finding new artists is a good thing. Watching them, and supporting, their development is a good thing. There will be a sizeable section of our scene that really enjoy "Bombs Away", and having something "real" to wave around and be excited by which keeps them around. I'll drink to that

CDJay




I think it's a good thing, What does GYTM stand for? I didn't make a new thread because I didn't really want to make a big deal out of it, I bought something which I was fairly sure I wouldn't like so it's not really fair for me to say a great deal as per usual the whole package is superb, though, and its *physical stuff* like you say :D

djDMS Go Tell Yo Momma.












Yes, i know...
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Go Tell Yo Momma.



I was just trying to provide some light criticism and you come at me with this atta.... ohhhhh OK. haha
djDMS I'm actually quite a fan of Rescue's stuff and he is indeed a talented producer. I would have happily bought the album if there was a bit less of the male vocal stuff cos some of those tunes are fantastic.

I went and told my momma i was thinking of buying it, but she threatened to disown me! :-P
CDJay Obviously I have a vested interest but... even if you only like a few of the tracks it's still good value. It also supports an up and coming producer who has put together a "proper" album, and if it does well will encourage both him and others to do more. Which is good; it's the gap between effort and reward (critical, peripheral, financial) which has seen ever so many promising people disappear from the scene.

The best thing about "the store", at this point, is it's fixing the biggest issues I think the scene has faced in recent memory. Encouraging people to work together, to take pride in their works, showcase material to the wider scene and world. It's still early days, but I genuinely think 2014 can and will be a great year. I couldn't be happier with the projects we've put out so far, and I'm really excited by the next few. Better yet, it feels like the sky is the limit now. Who knows what we could pull off collectively

By the time that Dreamscape in MK rolls around we'll have a catalog ready with T/L's and album showcases/interviews. If we can re-engage some ex raver types even if it's just on the content consumption level then kersplat/kerboom etc.

Back on topic; Isn't F&DH good? I'm actually going to send some to the press with only mild reservations that they will sneer at it based on tempo. As a body of work, BA + PONR + F&DH all stand up but there's still progression. Only 18-24 months 'til the next one! (Maybe)

CDJay
djDMS Oh it's not just good, it's flipping marvellous!

Expect a review when I've had a bit more time to absorb the greatness.

What really bugs me, is that the likes of F&D, CLSM etc do the 'Mainstream' Drum n Bass style tunes as well as (if not better) than what's around at the minute. I'd love to see what could happen with a bit of support and a lot of luck!
CDJay There's movement on the HU Breaks side too; we haven't been able to focus on it as much as we'd like so Chris Ross, with help from the ever heroic CLSM, will be heading that up going forward.

CDJay
Mortis Listened to the first 10 tracks, very impressive. One or two I don't care for, like Stabalize, but the rest is really good. I love the old, happy vibes type feel to most tracks. Also, good to hear Poison Rain singing again, she's got an amazing voice.
CDJay There's a poison rain bit on Live @ Rehab, too

CDJay
raindancerob
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
There's movement on the HU Breaks side too; we haven't been able to focus on it as much as we'd like so Chris Ross, with help from the ever heroic CLSM, will be heading that up going forward.

CDJay



good to hear, you put out some good stuff on that label like. hopefully some vinyl releases ?
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
Listened to the first 10 tracks, very impressive. One or two I don't care for, like Stabalize, but the rest is really good. I love the old, happy vibes type feel to most tracks. Also, good to hear Poison Rain singing again, she's got an amazing voice.



Don't stop there!! My top 3 have got to be Free from Form, Slip Away and End on a Hard Note but it's all so so good, very happy customer!
Mad Max Good selection of tracks will enjoy this.

Got the Rescue album on a punt as I love unmixed cds. It surprised me in a good way. Anyone who can rhyme jaeger and behaviour has skill ahahahha
arpz
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Max:
Anyone who can rhyme jaeger and behaviour has skill ahahahha



This has intrigued me, which part of the UK are you from where this isn't standard?
Mortis
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
Listened to the first 10 tracks, very impressive. One or two I don't care for, like Stabalize, but the rest is really good. I love the old, happy vibes type feel to most tracks. Also, good to hear Poison Rain singing again, she's got an amazing voice.



Don't stop there!! My top 3 have got to be Free from Form, Slip Away and End on a Hard Note but it's all so so good, very happy customer!




I'll listen to the rest when I have the chance. Free From Form is amazing, one of my favourite tracks of the year.
Elipton
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Max:
Anyone who can rhyme jaeger and behaviour has skill ahahahha



Not particularly..
Mortis End on a Hard Note is a bit good.
Luz Received the pre-order bundle, both albums for a great price, already had balancing act from iTunes (don't judge me!), but was a great deal.

The new album Filth and Dumb Hatred is great, what I'd like to call proper hardcore/dance, not worried about playing it loudly out my car window even now I am 35, nice to listen to some serious well thought out hardcore that isn't cringingly cheesy...

Hardcore underground is a great label and hope you continue, also very interested in anything you would be doing with CLSM (as mentioned earlier in the thread)..
Craigavon raver Really need to order this, the only reason I didn't pre-order it was because I wasn't sure I wanted another copy of balancing act, I already have 2! but maybe I could be tempted to get another haha

And on the point of rescues album, I mighted bother with that one either, never heard of him before or listened to any of his tracks, and I don't really get a chance to listen to music much these days, so probably not worth it, even the womans saying to me now "why you buying these cds and you never listen" haha
robertybob Really liking this! Much better than their last album :) That is all.
rafferty Those two never disappoint.

Is funny how Hardcore Underground seems such a big part of the scene now days, that you really could not imagine any other quality Hardcore CD releases being out if it wasn't for them.
AceofSpades_Lorenzo Waiting until July to order this & all the other albums I've missed that are available on the HU website; I don't feel like paying $12 shipping 3 times when I could just wait & pay it once ;)

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