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| toml123 |
Anyone know whats happened to the SoundArea forum @ http://soundarea.org/ ??
Paid a subscription on this a while ago and used to get a lot of good music from here... Now the page wont even load. Greatly disappointed :( |
| Impulse_Response |
Isn't that some sort of filesharing site? |
| Samination |
just checking their twitter account and it's obvious. |
| arpz |
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Originally posted by toml123:
Anyone know whats happened to the SoundArea forum @ http://soundarea.org/ ??
Paid a subscription on this a while ago and used to get a lot of good music from here... Now the page wont even load. Greatly disappointed :(
You won't find any support for that here. You can pay for music at the following sites
http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk
http://www.beatport.com
https://www.trackitdown.net/
If you can't afford to buy anything you can get endless free mixes and tracks from http://hardcorehighlights.com/ and http://soundcloud.com
There's a newish released album from Future State Hardcore @ http://www.futurestatehardcorevol1.info/ and Ken Masters & Happyhardcore.com's previous project - http://www.ppf2014.info/
This scene is small and needs our support, your subscription to that site didn't reach the pockets of the people that make the music and keep our scene going. We've all probably done a bit of piracy but now is the time (dyswidt?) that support is needed, and if you don't have any money, you can support in other ways - share the free mixes/tracks/projects with your friends on social media etc. |
| Elipton |
People shared my tracks quite a lot on there. I'm quite grateful to them. |
| Claxton |
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Originally posted by Elipton:
People shared my tracks quite a lot on there. I'm quite grateful to them.
Is there something about having the first name 'Olly' which means you have to be controversial on the internet? |
| Elipton |
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Originally posted by Claxton:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
People shared my tracks quite a lot on there. I'm quite grateful to them.
Is there something about having the first name 'Olly' which means you have to be controversial on the internet?
Just a matter of fact. Hardcore will be a little weaker for losing Soundarea. Despite it's 'damage' (how much money does anyone lose when each track barely makes ?20 anyway), it was still a medium for people to discover and hear the music. |
| latininxtc |
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Originally posted by Elipton:
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Originally posted by Claxton:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
People shared my tracks quite a lot on there. I'm quite grateful to them.
Is there something about having the first name 'Olly' which means you have to be controversial on the internet?
Just a matter of fact. Hardcore will be a little weaker for losing Soundarea. Despite it's 'damage' (how much money does anyone lose when each track barely makes ?20 anyway), it was still a medium for people to discover and hear the music.
A little weaker? Highly doubt it will make any difference. Any support hardcore had from SoundArea are from ears that never mattered in the first place. If they couldn't afford to buy a few tracks, or even an album, then they wouldn't afford to drag themselves off their fat asses to go and buy a ticket to attend an event, which is where the real money in hardcore is. |
| wong |
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
. Any support hardcore had from SoundArea are from ears that never mattered in the first place.
what a load of bollocks |
| Shades |
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Originally posted by wong:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
. Any support hardcore had from SoundArea are from ears that never mattered in the first place.
what a load of bollocks
I agree, never heard of soundarea before now but...
my whole hardcore collection i have now (which is quite extensive) is based on illegally recording force & styles from radio 1 when they did their essential mix in 1996.
you can make a positive from a negative
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| Captain Triceps |
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Originally posted by wong:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
. Any support hardcore had from SoundArea are from ears that never mattered in the first place.
what a load of bollocks
Correct, it might not be a pretty truth but it's exposure to people who might simply not be able to afford tracks. Try telling a kid he must only download freebies and mixes, when he wants the latest Scott Brown or Gammer tracks. He only gets a few quid pocket money a week, no paypal account or anything. Sure it's different for a full time worker who can afford a few quid and should know better of course.
And it goes without saying, I'm not suggesting it's alright - but it's sometimes the only way people will stumble upon the music. You just have to hope they like the music enough to support it.
And yes I'm aware of the vast amount of free tracks and mixes available. |
| Elipton |
I came in through Limewire. I'm certain that my Contribution outweighs what I took.
I don't inject much money into Hardcore anyway. I haven't bought anything from new in about 6 months, and the vast majority (about 95%) of my Hardcore CDs are second hand. Cash Converters has my cash, but that's because I have a brain and try to spend as little as possible. But does that mean I don't matter? |
| Guest |
you can spend ?15 on 10 new wav tunes a month when your unemployed
sets remain good if you buy tunes, and you dont play all teh crap thats not even 4/4 |
| toml123 |
I didnt make things clear before... I have a large collection of hardcore albums all bought on day one, But soundarea had the free music of the not so well known artists on there as their way of showing off work to the masses, Its a great loss that this website is no longer available, Anyone can find "clubland xtreme dubcore 7" on any ******* site, Soundarea was a music sharing site not a piracy site. |
| arpz |
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Originally posted by toml123:
I didnt make things clear before... I have a large collection of hardcore albums all bought on day one, But soundarea had the free music of the not so well known artists on there as their way of showing off work to the masses, Its a great loss that this website is no longer available, Anyone can find "clubland xtreme dubcore 7" on any ******* site, Soundarea was a music sharing site not a piracy site.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clubland-Xtreme-Hardcore-7-Various/dp/B004E52MJY |
| arpz |
Oops, I think I missed the point...
:D |
| toml123 |
?16 new ?2 used? i know which id buy if i didnt have it :p |
| Elipton |
If you're gonna buy an album from CEX or Cash Converters, you may as well download it. I severely doubt the legality of selling an album second hand anyway.. Surely it's music sharing, whereby the agent profits. |
| latininxtc |
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Originally posted by toml123:
Soundarea was a music sharing site not a piracy site.
While its initial intent was to be a legal file-sharing site, it sounds like it eventually turned into a piracy site.
If you paid a subscription to it, what exactly were you downloading with that subscription, and was the site paying royalties to producers and labels? Because if it wasn't, then that is illegal and even if you make the tracks available for free if someone is out there making a profit off of your tracks without compensating you in any way then that label/producer has rights to go after the site for making profit off of their work without proper compensation. |
| Impulse_Response |
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Originally posted by Elipton:
If you're gonna buy an album from CEX or Cash Converters, you may as well download it. I severely doubt the legality of selling an album second hand anyway.. Surely it's music sharing, whereby the agent profits.
Really? In the US we have the first sale doctrine. Is there no similar rule in the UK? |
| Elipton |
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Originally posted by Advather:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
If you're gonna buy an album from CEX or Cash Converters, you may as well download it. I severely doubt the legality of selling an album second hand anyway.. Surely it's music sharing, whereby the agent profits.
Really? In the US we have the first sale doctrine. Is there no similar rule in the UK?
Maybe, but what worth is it if the money's not in the label's pocket? You don't support music any more by buying from a second-hand store than you do by downloading it. Of course if it's a new release, you should buy the product to support the label. |
| Elliott |
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by toml123:
Soundarea was a music sharing site not a piracy site.
While its initial intent was to be a legal file-sharing site, it sounds like it eventually turned into a piracy site.
If you paid a subscription to it, what exactly were you downloading with that subscription, and was the site paying royalties to producers and labels? Because if it wasn't, then that is illegal and even if you make the tracks available for free if someone is out there making a profit off of your tracks without compensating you in any way then that label/producer has rights to go after the site for making profit off of their work without proper compensation.
It was/is, yeah. I remember pirating plenty of shit on there back when anyone could sign up and it was just a regular filesharing forum. I don't remember it being legit at any time.
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| trippnface |
that's why producers need to be good djs to.
people are going to share music in this day & age; incredibly easy; at this point what is important is that they have talent and people DO share their music. then get booked! smash a killer show and everyone will know who you are; and prob buy your shit then too. you are set. with multiple party throwers in multiple states ; different countries; it must equal more profit and glory than expecting to get paid by cd/digital?
i would hope the fans in our scene do support the artists and purchase as much as you can; but just sharing and the publicity of becoming known is worth more than everyone purchasing imo. |
