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Simon
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Belgium
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 Posted - 2002/03/15 : 06:31:37
What you have to tell junglist's is that if it wasn't for hardcore maybe there music would have never even existed!!!
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Lixx
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United States
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Posted - 2002/03/15 : 12:20:43
Actually what you have to tell junglists is that what they're listening to IS hardcore. Jungle is definitely a form of hardcore, same roots, same bpm.
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xxxFRIARxxx
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United States
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Joined: Feb, 2002
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Posted - 2002/03/15 : 18:53:09
Well, if I may, deviate from the topic to tell my own personal story on how I got turned onto HHC.
One day this past summer, I'd actually gotten done inhaling some "foggy" air, if you will. I then started to contemplate why I did such a thing. I didn't have the foggiest (sorry for the pun) idea. So, I quit that, cold turkey. Then, about a week later, I decided that I wanted to be happy, since I would have thought of myself as clinically depressed (although probably not) at the time. So, I took my trip over to Best Buy. I immediately went to the dance/techno section only to be greeted by a CD with a bunch of green and yellow smilies on it. (Note, the CD is Happy2BHardcore chapter 4. Best one out there.) I thought to myself "Hey, this CD looks happy. Maybe it will make ME happy!" After the purchase, I instantly put it in my CD player in my car. I was greeted with the theme from "2001: A Space Oddysey". It was a song that I could easily get in tune with, since I've heard it so many times. But then, something happened, the note from the theme just kept repeating, and then, later, a BOOM, BOOM, BOOM was added. I think to myself "Oh yes, here we go..."
This has spread within me a fairly newfound interest in HHC music. One that I think that will never be broken.
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DJ Pathfinder
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Netherlands
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Posted - 2002/03/15 : 23:01:01
why people it "hate" think about the attitute of it and most poeple judge before they listen to it and they even dont want to hear it. that theres problem not mine he he.
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manic
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Australia
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Posted - 2002/03/17 : 22:43:49
There is alot of this sh#t that goes on in Sydney. People think's its too commercial or that they have outgrown happy hardcore or they don't give it a chance. I like all forms of techno, but when I'm peaking I luv to dance to happy hardcore. It has droped off here , but, is slowly picking up with 3 stores now stocking happy hard. A while ago there was only one store stocking happyhard. Yet, it is still not back at the levels it used to be.
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farchid
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2002/03/19 : 08:59:03
Hey happy hardcore and hated should not be used in the same sentince!
I dont think i know anybody who has no respect for hardcore or it's followers, all people like that are just screws!
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Voltage
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United Kingdom
94 posts
Joined: Feb, 2002
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 Posted - 2002/03/20 : 02:12:53
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Originally posted by apc_azmodian_apc:
Hi I'm new to the genre only about a year of truly understanding what it is. Before it was all techno. I have told people I know that I like happy hardcore and they instantly lose any respect they had for me why is this??? I also would like to know what a candy raver is? thnx peace out yall!
Ryan Thornton
Happy Hardcore is now a redundant term in the UK, that is because it was famously used to describe vocal focused tracks during 96-98. We use the term Hardcore or UK Hardcore now over here.
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M.C Menace
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United Kingdom
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Joined: Mar, 2002
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 Posted - 2002/03/20 : 06:13:23
Lets put it this way happy hardcore rules thats all there is to it. Fare enogh let people think what they wan't but in the end its what u like and nobody can take that away from you
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joltzy
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United States
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Posted - 2002/03/21 : 13:06:38
Ok heres my opinion (if it matters). People who say bad things about hardcore are just not comfortable with them selves! Example being hardcore has alot of melodic voices and sweet lyrics and sad ones to. There fore mr junglist (or who evere it might be) thinks he wont be excepted if u like something so beautiful as hardcore. Because it might sound girly or be to fun and not dark enough. But what it all boils down to is who they hang with and what they here people say. But to me its all just hardcore and if it makes you happy then why the f-uck not listen to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BE WHO U WANT TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF it were gay music why would it be hardcore! AND THATS THAT! JOLTZ
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miss-mitzi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2002/03/23 : 03:22:24
happy hardcore is only hated by small minded sheep who have on taste in music or clubs or anythin lets face it they just have no sense at all!!! let them b sheep we know the score!!
happy 2 b
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Annex
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Canada
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Joined: Mar, 2002
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Posted - 2002/03/23 : 17:17:20
I have some minor experiance with this :)
good buddy o mine, luvs his jungle, n his drum n bass... and that's fine :)
but crikey he shakes his fist the the happyhardcore that i love ;)
he just says it's too damn cheesy... which.. is.. sorta fair, but that's part of it that i love ;))
but yeah! i have some friends who have no idea/interest in the rave scene, or any music to do with it, which is fine... but i'll be asked what i like, and i'll be like.. happycore..
and try and describe it.. where i usually stumble around n say something to the effect of.. "upwards of 180 beats per minute, electronic music, with cheesy happy lyrics, with an overall uplifting feel" :)
soooo they get a bit scared by the speed, and such.. and their all "o..k then"
had some of em in my car, driving back from the university the other day, and i FINALLY borrowed an adaptor from don giovanni so i could make tapes from the computer.. (drive a 92 volkswagen passat with the original tape deck heh)
had one girl bouncin around a bit, goin "hey, yeah it's not as bad as i thought it would be"
got another 100% addicted to eyeopener ;)
another guy who was like "yeah this is actually pretty good! i can't really see myself listening to it for any real length of time, but it's enjoyable"
and another one bouncin, and he really quite enjoyed the vocals :))
i was like.. BOO YEAH!
happy core for all :)
hehehe
much heart warming to see some posative responses, even if their babysteps ;)
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Don Giovanni
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Canada
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Posted - 2002/03/23 : 23:13:57
Ah yes the great bashing of other genres...I noticed on this list garage seems to be the genre of choice to bash, dunno why.
Anyway people are passionate about their favourite genre of music. They feel it is best and to show how much better their genre is they feel the need to slam other genres. I think this is incridibly stupid and closed minded to act such a way.
Happycore, though it has similarities to other genres,is somewhat more unique/different. As result it becomes and easy target. Many people complain the about distinctively cheesy ultra happy lyrics, and find the beats even too happy and energetic for them. Y? because they feel the need to hold up some dark or 'sophisticated' image. They think happycore is childish or unintelligent and dismiss it to early. So they make fun of it, then others hear how everyone makes fun of happycore and they do it to, following like sheep (similar to how most people hate candy kids for no reason).
but hey if they don't like it, their loss...just leaves more room for me on the dancefloor when the beats start a pounding :)
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Jaide
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United States
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Posted - 2002/03/23 : 23:32:50
::singing:: "I don't wanna grow up, i'm a toys r us kid..there's a million toys at toys r us that i can play with, from bikes to trains to video games, the biggest toy store there is, i don't wanna grow up because if i did..i wouldn't be a toys r us kid"..
oops kinda lost sight of the topic there.. haha..  just seemed like that little song fit in well there.. but i could be wrong..it's been known to happen.. 
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ceilidh
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United States
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Posted - 2002/03/24 : 16:30:00
There are two girls at my school who used to really like happy hardcore. They liked it so much that they asked me to burn some CDs for them. I did so, and for the following week, they worshipped me. Just recently I heard them say, and this is an exact quote (I am not swearing because I want to)
"Yeah, we used to do that shit, but now we think it sucks. Now we like stuff that's cool."
I almost walked over to them to demand their reason for this statement, but thought better of it because we were in the middle of PE.
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DJ Bunnyboi
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United States
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Posted - 2002/03/25 : 06:07:33
In the states I find a lot of Happy Hardcore hate, especially in Detroit. Infact, in Detroit everyone hates everything. I get a lot of different responces here.
Junglist hate the most. And I usually tell them, that Jungle and Happy Hardcore have the same roots. "They're like brothers!" and they don't like that very much. I don't understand these people, I love jungle and hardcore. Isn't that possible?
Then there are the Detroit Techno people. Who say hardcore is corny and simple minded. They listen to Hawtin/Derrick May/Jaun Atkin/ Aquaviva/Mills etc. They are like poets in coffee shops. Most- a lot of these people are real stuck up and think that because they can listen to Jazanova they are intellects. Again, I love techno and hardcore. Isn't that possible?
There are so many other "groups".
Unfortunalty the michigan junglist, who you can argue with at michigan junglist online.. are real uneducated. Most only know the moonshine dj's (dara deiselboy and ak1200) but are real fast to rip on hardcore. Makes me so mad. Just ask most of them who Zinc/Finn/Blackmarket/Kenny Ken are...
In my opinion most haters are just posers trying to put off some kind of image. They didn't even take the few minutes to listen to the music. Haters suck! Down with the haters!
Peas,
Austin
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