Posted - 2015/01/08 : 16:56:25
Hello all.
When gabber was at it's peak in the mid 90's why do you think whilst there was big a Gabber following in Scotland and to a lesser extent northern England,why was it that it was always a more breakbeat driven scene in the south of england,any thoughts please contribute.
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Samination Advanced Member
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 17:46:54
Possibly because Bouncy Techno was so related to Gabber it worked, while the more Jungle driven southerners didnt like it.
Being a swede, where Gabber has had a greater foothold than brittish Hardcore (alteast based on raves and album releases), I prefer the Rotterdam Hardcore over Gabber
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Samination on 2015/01/08 17:47:51
Posted - 2015/01/08 : 17:53:13
Thank you for your imput , i too love Rotterdam hardcore a very unique style although could be classed as gabber alot of the later stuff anyway.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 18:21:37
quote:Possibly because Bouncy Techno was so related to Gabber it worked, while the more Jungle driven southerners didnt like it
That hasn't answered his question though. Mostly just rephrased what he said. That southerners don't like Dutch Hardcore or Dutch influenced Hardcore as much. Bouncy Techno was the same as Dutch Hardcore in that respect. As for why, i couldn't say. It's pretty odd when you think about it. Possibly just cultural differences.
Posted - 2015/01/08 : 20:09:39
Bouncy techno and the happier varients of Gabber seem almost identical in my opinion not quite the same but near enough.
ferocious New Member
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 20:28:56
Cultural differences. Also the drugs of choice. This is mentioned in Simon Reynolds book "Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture", which you should try and read.
You could say the same regarding jungle and Scotland. Well known it was not popular with ravers there and promoters stopped hiring English DJs who spun that music.
In fact 'smart' jungle DJs like Jumping Jack Frost and Grooverider would play Scottish style sets. They knew jungle would have went down like a lead balloon.
Scottish scene used imports alongside their own.
English scene was all internal DJs, all internal music.
(I'm not about north England, which had a big house/club scene or sometimes was like Scotland even further north. I'm on about the main raves in England like Dreamscape and Helter Skelter.)
Similarly Scotland is more pro-EU, whereas England wants out and the further south you go the stronger it is.
Samination Advanced Member
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 21:18:55
quote:Originally posted by ferocious:
Similarly Scotland is more pro-EU, whereas England wants out and the further south you go the stronger it is.
So English are like they usually are? :P
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Posted - 2015/01/10 : 17:36:49
Plenty of imported music was played down here mainly dutch happy hardcore,the tunes spun certainly were all not of english origin.
DJ A.K. Average Member
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Posted - 2015/01/10 : 22:12:08
Cos their southern fairies......
I joke, seemed odd to me that the hardcore got harder the further north you went, I'm from manchester and round here it was all about club kinetic, stu allan, scott brown, key 103, lots of Dutch and Scottish stuff (which I love).
But having said that Southern DJ's like Hixxy and Vibes also played bouncy stuff, I guess there were just more happy hardcore/ breakbeat DJ's down South so that is the sound that is associated with the south.
Posted - 2015/01/12 : 12:59:15
Never got my head around the terrible happy being knocked out in the late 90's,Force and styles Heart of Gold type stuff is practically pop,granted in into gabber not so much happy but in can still appreciate decent dutch happy hardcore.Shit like Ultrabeat and other similiar artists barely register as rave music to be ,how they can be called Hardcore is beyond me.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
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Posted - 2015/01/12 : 13:07:42
F&S stuff was what i got into Hardcore for. They are essentially different genres though so doesn't make much sense to compare them.
Posted - 2015/01/12 : 17:46:25
Did you progress to the harder stuff via F&S,if so then i guess they ain t too bad lol.To be fair they did to a track called apollo13? i think which was very different to their usual cheddar.
Why did southern U.K. never embrace Gabber music?
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