Is using a computer to mix "cheating" ?

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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2002/08/21 : 10:01:22

I want to hear from other DJ's on this one. I feel that are far too many people who lack any sort af technical DJ'ing skills, but are billing themselves as DJ's because they know how to use a computer.

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Soren
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Posted - 2002/08/21 : 13:59:30

I haven't seen anyone using a Laptop live at a party except people doing live shows of music they created themselves. I wouldn't call it cheating if DJ's are actually doing that, but I might call it ****** dumb and pointless :)

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Dj Tripnosis
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Posted - 2002/08/21 : 17:15:19

Yes it is cheating, whole heartedly. In my opinion anyway. You'd have to call yourself a CJ , I mean c'mon, what discs are you using, that sorta defeats the purpose of DISC JOCKEY. The same way that Anobolic Frolic cheated making the happy 2B Hardcore series, they were all digitally mixed ( aka using yer f*ckin computer) .....for shame

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Edited by - Dj Tripnosis on 2002/08/21 17:17:40

Brian K
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Posted - 2002/08/21 : 18:42:40

umm the hard drives have discs in them, does that count? =P

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ET
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Posted - 2002/08/21 : 22:55:52

To me anything other then pure Vinyl unless you made the music yourself is cheating.

I mean I even think mixing CD's is kinda cheating.

If you are doing a Live PA and use a cd, but you made the music yourself or use a dat file then no not cheating

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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 07:55:16

Of course an accomplished DJ who uses a computer to compliment a set is one thing. There are several DJ's in my neck of the woods (Chicago) who are quite popular in the clubs and do entire sets with a laptop. One of these jokers informed me that he had NEVER EVEN TOUCHED A TURNTABLE, and that I was a fool for wasting my time with vinyl.

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atomicb
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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 08:26:41

hmm depends, something like the final scratch setup is isn't cheating, but without a doubt, digital mixing H2BH style is cheating, because u ond't do it real time and just let the comp do it all for you.

I'd say they mostly are, except final scracth coz you have decks :)

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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 08:38:38

Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate everyone's opinion on this. Keep it going!

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DJ Mouse
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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 15:04:39

if your mp3 mixer's got auto cue on it where it finds the perfect mix for you then hell yeah it's cheating,all you're doing is pushing a button and the mix is done,now where's the talent or skill in that??

on the other hand,if you're simply using the mp3 mixer as an alternate medium and find the pitch yourself then it's ok

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Cephiros
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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 17:14:24

I wonder if I have a right to say anything since I'm just a newbie learning to beatmatch. I would have to say to mix using a computer without figuring out the pitch would be consider cheating.

If you are using the Final Scratch thing then I would have to say no, it's not cheating. Besides... Why not use vinyl, I love the feel of it!

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Dj Tripnosis
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Posted - 2002/08/22 : 19:20:00

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Originally posted by djnateking:
Of course an accomplished DJ who uses a computer to compliment a set is one thing. There are several DJ's in my neck of the woods (Chicago) who are quite popular in the clubs and do entire sets with a laptop. One of these jokers informed me that he had NEVER EVEN TOUCHED A TURNTABLE, and that I was a fool for wasting my time with vinyl.

Sure he may be able to impress the crowd with music but a band can do that to or a singer, thats exactly what a DJ does but he uses discs, his laptop doesn't make him a DJ , either way he's a fool to say that about using vinyl , for shame

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Posted - 2002/08/31 : 06:18:21

I some times mess about with a program called traktor dj studio....its pretty easy to mix with it even without using the automated features........so yes its cheating.

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Kaffine
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Posted - 2002/11/04 : 17:38:21

I don't quite think they could be digitally mixed... I mean... all that help and he still can't pull off quality mixes? Do you hear how sloppy they are?

It's sorta just like playing sports... No point in cheating if you're not going to win anyway.

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DeeJay EJ
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Posted - 2002/11/12 : 05:23:04

I think it all depends. If they are just mixing cd's for friends than no. If they are using the computer programs to do ALL of their mixing and not letting people know that parts of it were mixed by computer then yes. Me I have a couple of programs on my computer. But I also have touched tables as well. A friend of mine is teaching me to spin and I will be geting some tables of my own here pretty soon. But using programs to do ALL mixing is just wrong.

But it is funny to see a digital deck on your computer and you can touch it at all. It gets frustrating taht you cant pick it up and throw it out the window.

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Kaffine
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Posted - 2002/11/14 : 15:17:14

Of course you can pick up a computer and throw it out the window, it's just not as aerodynamic...

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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2002/11/15 : 07:04:29