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1xtcraver
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2002/09/13 : 01:37:23
does ne1 else think that the newer stuff 99 onwards has taken hardcore to a new level. i think that over the last couple of years the style has got more stompin with a bass line to blow your mind. ne1 agree. or lovers of the old style tell me why
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virtigo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2002/09/13 : 02:16:58
I agree. Hardcore has grown to something truly amazing now! The newer hardcore I believe to be better than most of the old stuff. Raver Baby, Evolution, Compulsive just to name a few new labels are a breath of fresh air and it is quality music being produced. I would go as far as to say that the quality of the music being produced now is better than ever! Long may that continue!!!
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virus
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Canada
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Posted - 2002/09/13 : 07:24:45
alot of tracks today sound a little "overproduced" to me
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kBud
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Posted - 2002/09/13 : 07:54:23
I understand completely on the "overproduced" nu stuff. I'm a big old skool fan, but I can dig on some new stuff too. It's whatever I guess.
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1xtcraver
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Posted - 2002/09/14 : 04:33:50
i started off listening to the older stuff. then i got a tape pack from 2k2 and realised what i was missing out on. i understand why ppl like the older stuff cuz at the end of the day it's still hardcore, the old style is sort off snare drum and singing the new stuff is more bass line and freaky sounds. i agree with virtigo that the likes of raver baby compulsive and evolution are pathing the way for the future of hardcore
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Emanation
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2002/09/14 : 07:48:38
I agree partly cus anything new has gotta b a good thing wen something is around 4 a long time. Hardcore's taken on a very trancey step which i do feel but i'm still a sucker 4 cheesy female vocals n piano's, just gives me the biggest rush!!!!!!
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Don Giovanni
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Canada
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Posted - 2002/09/14 : 22:26:40
I wouldn’t say hardcore been brought to a new level, nor would I says that the music being produced now is better than ever.
It’s just going in a lot of directions right now, and that is good in a way.
I remember I used to be able to listen to any new happy hardcore track and I loved what I heard. Now I sometimes have to look a little more. What really hooked me on the happy hardcore was the amazing vocals and 'cheesy lyrics' as some would say (not that i don't love the good hard pounding beats.)
Some of the newer stuff, specifically some raverbaby releases I’ve heard it sounds like someone killed the bass beat...like it's flat or something...not only that but it's slower a lot of the time...and just a little too trancy for my liking.
When you listen to the older stuff there was more 'fun' in the music a little more freedom...and that made the music all the better. (not sure if fun was the right word but go listen to bonkers 1n2, compare it to today’s stuff and u should be able get what I mean)
I guess as things have gotten more and more competitive, people got more serious and that fun factor sort of died down with that, as stuff became more and more overproduced, as Virus said.
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CrazyDrugAddict
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2002/09/15 : 05:27:52
I believe the new style of hixxys hardcore is an evolution it keeps hardcore fresh and new if he was still producing the same happy hardcore of bonkers 1 + 2 then there would be little variety for such a large scene the old skool element would become tedious and ppl would look elsewhere E.G trance for new fresh and innovative sounds!
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Champagne
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Posted - 2002/09/15 : 06:03:23
quote:
Originally posted by Don Giovanni:
It’s just going in a lot of directions right now, and that is good in a way.
The fact that hardcore is going into alot of directions right now is good in everyway.Change is good.Hardcore can now offer something to everyone now.
quote:
Originally posted by Don Giovanni:
I guess as things have gotten more and more competitive, people got more serious and that fun factor sort of died down with that, as stuff became more and more overproduced, as Virus said.
Yes things have gotten more competitive, but that is a good thing.Compatition challenges people.This makes the music more diverse.This is a good thing because it will open other peoples eyes to the music we all love. As for the music being overproduced. Someone who has taken the time to make sure there track sounds a certain way is not a bad thing.
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Don Giovanni
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Posted - 2002/09/15 : 20:30:45
quote:
Originally posted by Champagne:
Yes things have gotten more competitive, but that is a good thing.Compatition challenges people.This makes the music more diverse.This is a good thing because it will open other peoples eyes to the music we all love.
Never said competition was strictly a bad thing, just that there has been a downside to it.
And I didn’t mean that the hardcore should sound exactly like that of Bonkers 1 n2...just that good fun feeling the music carried from that time is missing in many tracks I have heard today. Although there are a some tracks that still do come out with that feel. Basically what I was trying to say is yes, in many ways hardcore has improved...but maybe lost a few things too.
ie The hardcore of today is NOT far superior to that of old as 1xtcraver suggested, but it is still equally GREAT music, in a different way.
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