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Janster
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Posted - 2011/12/23 :  17:51:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Janster's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah, I definitely made a conscious decision to stop posting here and only post on USH because there was too much hate here. It's gotten a bit better... Still miss USH though.



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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/12/23 :  18:11:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by FingazMc:
I always saw USH as basically a typical internet forum. Hate, hate and more hate. Here there's always been a reasonable amount of discussion and debate. Although I have to admit they were amazing for ID'ing tunes so I hope some of those guys come over here...



funny, i always thought there was more hate here than on USH, until recently that is



I don't see any hate here, lol.


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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2011/12/23 :  20:28:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by FingazMc:
I always saw USH as basically a typical internet forum. Hate, hate and more hate. Here there's always been a reasonable amount of discussion and debate. Although I have to admit they were amazing for ID'ing tunes so I hope some of those guys come over here...



funny, i always thought there was more hate here than on USH, until recently that is



I don't see any hate here, lol.





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Samination
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Posted - 2011/12/24 :  09:06:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
you generally don't see a shit :P
and don't reply Arche, you're a part of it :P


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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2011/12/24 :  09:56:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
you generally don't see a shit :P
and don't reply Arche, you're a part of it :P



Im not a hater, Im an opinionist.


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Naughty Dog
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Posted - 2011/12/24 :  10:11:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Naughty Dog's homepage  Reply with quote
USH was great for banter and venting frustrations/winding people up... some people really took the bait and fueled people so easily



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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/12/24 :  13:01:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
you generally don't see a shit :P
and don't reply Arche, you're a part of it :P



Im not a hater, Im an opinionist.



This is the guy. He gets it.


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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/01/10 :  20:23:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage  Reply with quote
Continued from the last thread,

The place did become just somewhere to piss people off. Serious discussion was diluted by pointless posts.

Some ongoing threads were good though. The Raver Baby watch thread was a good concept. Looking at particular activity in areas could stimulate discussion here I reckon.


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ponder
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Posted - 2012/04/20 :  20:57:34  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit ponder's homepage  Reply with quote
The thing with USH is that people will always remember what it became, rather than what it used to be. Up until around 2005 it was the greatest Hardcore forum around, bar none, and those days will never be re-created by any other forum. I mean, how many websites can generate meet-ups at raves of 100+ people? Actual people at actual raves, not keyboard warriors behind their computers slagging everything off.

As a DJ, producer and promoter, it was integral to launching my career (along with a bit of 'right place, right time... with records' at Raindance, admittedly). As a site and forum it gave me a platform and a fanbase, not to mention that Elation wouldn't have existed without it (we all met through USH).

It tailed off in the last few years for a number of reasons;
The perception that it was a forum full of haters, perpetrated publicly by a certain well-known MC.
Lack of new blood on the forum, meaning that the ratio of people who like hardcore vs people who no longer like hardcore swung too far the wrong way.
Certain negative members shouting louder than the more reasoned members, giving the impression that it was a far worse forum than it actually was.
Fake accounts and trolls, and the lack of moderation of these.

Overall, it's probably best that it went when it did, while us original members still have fond memories of the halcyon days. For those of you that entered the 'scene' during the latter days of USH (from say, 2008 onwards), then I totally understand your feelings towards the site, but I can honestly say that from 1999-2005, it was the best Hardcore website of all time, and always will be. A place where I made loads of friends - some close, some who have drifted, have had some genuinely hilarious moments, and discovered a hell of a lot of amazing music.

In that respect, it'll never be rivalled.


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Thumpa
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Posted - 2012/04/20 :  21:50:46  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Thumpa's homepage  Reply with quote
Agree wholeheartedly with Ponder, people who don't know what it was like before 2005/6 really missed out, the place was vibrant, bursting with energy and discussion and loads of amazing banter and blazing of absolute dickheads, mostly on my part! I miss the shits and giggles...

I think the site peaked around 2002-2004, they were magical times! Its a shame no other site has taken over or come close in terms of discussion, information, passion and ideas. Going to those Slammin, HH, Uproar events at the Sanctuary and literally meeting 100+ people in one night was great and I made some amazing lifelong friends through that site.

RIP Ush! :(


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jenks
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Posted - 2012/04/22 :  09:54:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
I registered about the same time as I registered here, perhaps before. Seemed full of dickheads to me.



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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2012/04/22 :  10:15:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
Agree wholeheartedly with Ponder, people who don't know what it was like before 2005/6 really missed out, the place was vibrant, bursting with energy and discussion and loads of amazing banter and blazing of absolute dickheads, mostly on my part! I miss the shits and giggles...

I think the site peaked around 2002-2004, they were magical times! Its a shame no other site has taken over or come close in terms of discussion, information, passion and ideas. Going to those Slammin, HH, Uproar events at the Sanctuary and literally meeting 100+ people in one night was great and I made some amazing lifelong friends through that site.

RIP Ush! :(



I first joined in 2003 from about 2005 people just got board... A forum can only go do far really so it was only a matter of time

I can't see this out dated forum actually lasting another few years tbh


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Samination
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Posted - 2012/04/22 :  10:35:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
Agree wholeheartedly with Ponder, people who don't know what it was like before 2005/6 really missed out, the place was vibrant, bursting with energy and discussion and loads of amazing banter and blazing of absolute dickheads, mostly on my part! I miss the shits and giggles...

I think the site peaked around 2002-2004, they were magical times! Its a shame no other site has taken over or come close in terms of discussion, information, passion and ideas. Going to those Slammin, HH, Uproar events at the Sanctuary and literally meeting 100+ people in one night was great and I made some amazing lifelong friends through that site.

RIP Ush! :(



I first joined in 2003 from about 2005 people just got board... A forum can only go do far really so it was only a matter of time

I can't see this out dated forum actually lasting another few years tbh



Well that would be because it's not facebook.


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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2012/04/22 :  11:16:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
Agree wholeheartedly with Ponder, people who don't know what it was like before 2005/6 really missed out, the place was vibrant, bursting with energy and discussion and loads of amazing banter and blazing of absolute dickheads, mostly on my part! I miss the shits and giggles...

I think the site peaked around 2002-2004, they were magical times! Its a shame no other site has taken over or come close in terms of discussion, information, passion and ideas. Going to those Slammin, HH, Uproar events at the Sanctuary and literally meeting 100+ people in one night was great and I made some amazing lifelong friends through that site.

RIP Ush! :(



I first joined in 2003 from about 2005 people just got board... A forum can only go do far really so it was only a matter of time

I can't see this out dated forum actually lasting another few years tbh



Well that would be because it's not facebook.



Even Facebook is out dated... The severs are sooooo slow, the site does things that you'd expect from an amateur site not something that's worth billions


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/04/22 :  12:18:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
Agree wholeheartedly with Ponder, people who don't know what it was like before 2005/6 really missed out, the place was vibrant, bursting with energy and discussion and loads of amazing banter and blazing of absolute dickheads, mostly on my part! I miss the shits and giggles...

I think the site peaked around 2002-2004, they were magical times! Its a shame no other site has taken over or come close in terms of discussion, information, passion and ideas. Going to those Slammin, HH, Uproar events at the Sanctuary and literally meeting 100+ people in one night was great and I made some amazing lifelong friends through that site.

RIP Ush! :(



I first joined in 2003 from about 2005 people just got board... A forum can only go do far really so it was only a matter of time

I can't see this out dated forum actually lasting another few years tbh



Well that would be because it's not facebook.



Even Facebook is out dated... The severs are sooooo slow, the site does things that you'd expect from an amateur site not something that's worth billions



People don't visit forums because they are 'up to date'. Nobody cares.


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