NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:08:14
quote:Originally posted by Karthy:
I saw it as nothing more than a joke. I'm no suck up to Gammer, I like the guy's music and I think he has a great personality, I'm 99.9% sure Gammer would not beat anyone up just because they hate dubcore and I find the fact that you actually believe he would quite silly.
Let's put it this way... Do you really think he'd go through the effort of finding out where a dubcore hater lives just to go beat them up, it wouldn't achieve that and any half-intelligent person would know that. I'm not trying to insult anyone here but come on?
I also find it kind of silly that these 2 halves are constantly trying to bring arguments (Wilky) and those neutral people laughing about it and egging it on (Archefluxx).
My views on the actual idea of dubcore taking over - will it bollocks... There will always be the usual hardcore, there'll just be this new hardcore aswell, I don't personally like this new style and I definately wouldn't go out of my way to go to an event advertising itself as that. I'd be quite disappointed if I went to a HTID rave and heard 99% dubcore, but I'd just choose not to go to one of them again, and then they're the ones losing it.
There's no need for this mindless whingyness in my opinion, and there certainly isn't a need to PROVOKE these arguments. I understand people are just voicing their opinions, and I see it as Gammer's just doing the same. Sure he threatened people (noone specifically might I add) but he was clearly joking.
Everyone just needs to simmer down, it's all getting a bit too out of hand and both sides of the argument are in the wrong...
Saying "literally going to punch someone in the head" and "not even kidding" is a strong indication to me that he wasn't joking, and this was before the "I'm human and sometimes I get annoyed" comment. That's a threat plain and simple, I don't really think Gammer would actually do it either, but saying something like that with that tone & choice of words just encourages that kind of behaviour and that's not something I condone nor want to get involved in, especially considering the numerous other threats that I've been seeing around lately.
This isn't something personal against Gammer, this is against ANYONE who makes a threat with that choice of words/defence - and no matter who that person is, I think it's immature and I don't want to be a part of that scene.
dannyboy uk Junior Member
United Kingdom
127 posts Joined: Sep, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:12:51
haha! just read through gammers posts, its like a facebook hardcore revolt on dubcore
gammer didnt mean it seriously lol, its just banter gone out of control, its a sunday night, everyones bored and once again facebook provides entertainment lol, even kutski's stickin up for him lol
"Look a bit harder for producers that aren't making the sounds you don't like. It's not difficult..... Find the music you like rather than waiting for it to be spoon fed to you" best quote of the whole arguement
Hard2Get Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts Joined: Jun, 2001
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:13:53
But people say 'I'm not even kidding' and 'literally' all the time knowing full well that it's not actually either lol. It's just one of those things that a lot of people say but never actually mean, even though what they are saying is that they do mean it lol. Although if it was it was someone i knew absolutely nothing about then i would probably feel the same way as you.
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:15:18
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Gammer definately didn't mean it as seriously as you read it Neko. He's not like that.
Honestly if you take five seconds to look at Gammers Youtube videos its easy to see hes a very relaxed and fun guy. And you make such a big deal about it - if you say youve never done the same youre lying.
I've probably talked to Gammer more than you guys have to be honest. He's a very nice person on twitter, but he was annoyed - he said too much and he deserves the drama he got for it. It's as simple as that. As I just said, this isn't personal against him - this is against anyone who gets a bit too annoyed and starts throwing threats around. I said it in the Livelee thread last week, I'm not having that shit go on. Especially as we all know how easy it is to incite hardcore ravers. I'm simply not having it.
Archefluxx Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,112 posts Joined: Sep, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:21:26
quote:Originally posted by Karthy:
I also find it kind of silly that these 2 halves are constantly trying to bring arguments (Wilky) and those neutral people laughing about it and egging it on (Archefluxx).
**** off am I egging it on...
I posted some serious comments on the threads on Gammers page, one or two less helpful ones, and Ive spoken to Breeze via Twitter suggesting that he ignore Wilky rather than fuel his fire..
Alert moderatorEdited by - Archefluxx on 2012/01/16 00:22:55
DJ Lawlzy Advanced Member
Canada
520 posts Joined: Oct, 2007
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:41:05
I wish there was a big button that I could press and BEEPBOOPBEEP all the Hardcore scene drama gets sucked into space. Really funny for a scene built on upbeat happy music.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts Joined: Jun, 2001
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:42:25
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
I wish there was a big button that I could press and BEEPBOOPBEEP all the Hardcore scene drama gets sucked into space. Really funny for a scene built on upbeat happy music.
DJ Lawlzy Advanced Member
Canada
520 posts Joined: Oct, 2007
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:45:10
quote:Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
I wish there was a big button that I could press and BEEPBOOPBEEP all the Hardcore scene drama gets sucked into space. Really funny for a scene built on upbeat happy music.
SpiritWolf Average Member
United States
237 posts Joined: Apr, 2010
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:48:48
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
I wish there was a big button that I could press and BEEPBOOPBEEP all the Hardcore scene drama gets sucked into space. Really funny for a scene built on upbeat happy music.
Shades Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,189 posts Joined: Dec, 2006
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 00:59:05
quote:Originally posted by SpiritWolf:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
I wish there was a big button that I could press and BEEPBOOPBEEP all the Hardcore scene drama gets sucked into space. Really funny for a scene built on upbeat happy music.
^This
^ this as well, if wilky followed.... & smoogie as a bonus
Alert moderatorEdited by - Archefluxx on 2012/01/16 01:28:04
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 01:37:35
quote:Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Nothing wrong with a shake up in Hardcore every now and again. This kind of thing is funny.
Drama is give and take really, I try my best to avoid it but this is more about the principle of threats to me. Especially with it kicking off last week with MCs threatening to beat people up and so on, I'm absolutely not having that go on. And I know people keep saying "Gammer wouldn't hurt anyone" and yeah, I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't, but thanks to his status we now have a bunch of chavs kicking off about how they're going to brick people and punch other people in the face for various reasons, and we ravers are the ones that have to put up with that.
Lilark Average Member
United States
211 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 01:57:11
Dubstep influenced hardcore and Dubstep are two entirely different things. I really don't know who took a piss in his cornflakes, but it's immature of him to say that. He's a great artist and I respect his music, but threatening people over something so stupid is irrelevant.
Gammers getting pretty pissed
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