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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/05/01 :  15:06:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
speeding up music never makes it hardcore. True alot of hard trance (produced by hardcore artists :P) sounds like hardcore speeded up, but that way you ruin the samples used in songs.

No. To be hardcore/rave it needs to be produced at atleast around 170BPM



If by Hard Trance you mean the cheesy mid 90's stuff (as opposed to the non-cheesy 90's stuff) then yeah definately. There are very many similarities both in style and the sounds used.


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Samination
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Posted - 2012/05/01 :  15:52:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
speeding up music never makes it hardcore. True alot of hard trance (produced by hardcore artists :P) sounds like hardcore speeded up, but that way you ruin the samples used in songs.

No. To be hardcore/rave it needs to be produced at atleast around 170BPM



If by Hard Trance you mean the cheesy mid 90's stuff (as opposed to the non-cheesy 90's stuff) then yeah definately. There are very many similarities both in style and the sounds used.



oh forgot about those. I meant more recent creations tho.


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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2012/05/01 :  19:22:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
speeding up music never makes it hardcore. True alot of hard trance (produced by hardcore artists :P) sounds like hardcore speeded up, but that way you ruin the samples used in songs.

No. To be hardcore/rave it needs to be produced at atleast around 170BPM



Well that's total bollox

A lot of hardcore is produced slower than 170bpm then pitched up to 170bpm



alot? atleast 60% of the hardcore I have bought (ranging from 1995 to 2012) have a BPM generally around 174bpm



Doesn't mean it's produced at that speed

What u buy it doesn't mean that is what it was produced at


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Samination
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Posted - 2012/05/01 :  19:31:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
speeding up music never makes it hardcore. True alot of hard trance (produced by hardcore artists :P) sounds like hardcore speeded up, but that way you ruin the samples used in songs.

No. To be hardcore/rave it needs to be produced at atleast around 170BPM



Well that's total bollox

A lot of hardcore is produced slower than 170bpm then pitched up to 170bpm



alot? atleast 60% of the hardcore I have bought (ranging from 1995 to 2012) have a BPM generally around 174bpm



Doesn't mean it's produced at that speed

What u buy it doesn't mean that is what it was produced at



so you basicly mean that all the Vinyls, CD and digital files I've bought are recorded in the wrong speed?


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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2012/05/02 :  07:20:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
No what im saying is when riffs & stuff are produced they arnt all done at 170 but are speeded up fir the final product... The final thing will be 170 but somewhere along the lines it hasnt all been 170

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/05/02 :  11:30:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2012/05/02 11:31:18
Tastetherainobw
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Posted - 2012/05/02 :  15:03:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Tastetherainobw's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Warnman:
quote:
Originally posted by D-tor:
What, speeding things up doesn't make it Hardcore? :o!

It must be Nightcore then.



Speeding up Dubstep/Electro/Minimal doesn't make it Hardcore as well. Sorry, if I just have started a new Kandi Rayne.



MY POST DIDNT GO TO WASTE!!!!


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Samination
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Posted - 2012/05/02 :  15:40:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Tastetherainobw:
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
quote:
Originally posted by D-tor:
What, speeding things up doesn't make it Hardcore? :o!

It must be Nightcore then.



Speeding up Dubstep/Electro/Minimal doesn't make it Hardcore as well. Sorry, if I just have started a new Kandi Rayne.



MY POST DIDNT GO TO WASTE!!!!



surely you jest?


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/05/02 :  22:56:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Tastetherainobw:
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
quote:
Originally posted by D-tor:
What, speeding things up doesn't make it Hardcore? :o!

It must be Nightcore then.



Speeding up Dubstep/Electro/Minimal doesn't make it Hardcore as well. Sorry, if I just have started a new Kandi Rayne.



MY POST DIDNT GO TO WASTE!!!!



surely you jest?


I think you missed his point lol.


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