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fakka13k
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Posted - 2014/03/01 :  22:28:20  Show profile Send a private message
My money is on Scott Brown for this one but would be interested to hear any others thoughts on this.
So when (and who) started playing the majority of their sets consisting of stuff on they're own labels?
There was a time when all dj's played a mix of all different artists stuff instead of just plugging there own stuff


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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  00:32:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  01:29:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage
Frankie Knuckles.

I mean this is really quite a silly question. The vast majority of DJ's who produce promote their own stuff, and have done for 30-odd years - going back to the earliest 'house' parties whereby a DJ would mix a pop song into a repeating beat. It's really nothing knew for a DJ to represent the label he's on or runs.

Scott Brown certainly wasn't the first and he wasn't the last. I don't know why there's a negative attitude toward him doing this though. He's got an enormous catalog of tunes that have mapped the history of Hardcore. Some of his tracks have been the best Hardcore has ever seen, and as result seeing him live has become something like "The Scott Brown Live Experience". It's great fun.

I've seen him live thrice, twice at ILHB where he did an old school Bass X mix and then a classics and new tracks mix, and another time last month where he played another classics and new tracks mix. I'd happily see him play another 3 times.

I'm a bit perplexed by this to be honest.. You seem to have a bit of a negative view on it, but have you actually seen him live? It's great!


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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  01:31:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Impulse_Response's homepage
I wonder about this too. I haven't been to many live events, but I noticed that Scott Brown's mixes on Bonkers always have more than enough of his own tracks, and sometimes 6 or 7 in a row! I don't mean this in a negative way. It's just a curiosity.

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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  01:34:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
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nah. I remember reading a DJ Brisk interview about a decade ago saying something about him not being too aware of what was coming out as he was mainly playing stuff from NextGen/BlatantBeats.


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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
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nah. I remember reading a DJ Brisk interview about a decade ago saying something about him not being too aware of what was coming out as he was mainly playing stuff from NextGen/BlatantBeats.



So where raverbaby artists 10 years ago


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Every DJ (for the most part) that has a back catalogue does this. It's always been that way.

Why would you promote none of your own tracks?

With the relatively little skill involved with most DJ's sets, people go to see a DJ expecting to hear that DJ's tracks. Otherwise how are they different than any other DJ?

DJs that have their own tracks play their own tracks.
DJs that own labels play stuff from their label.

It's not a new thing. We're going back decades for this. Way before scott brown.


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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  02:21:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage
quote:
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
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nah. I remember reading a DJ Brisk interview about a decade ago saying something about him not being too aware of what was coming out as he was mainly playing stuff from NextGen/BlatantBeats.



So where raverbaby artists 10 years ago



yeah. you're right. 2004 seems not long ago for me. Somehow, the memory I have of that interview feels Pre-Raverbaby, though.


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dont mind him FDB, Willy can be stubborn at times, like forgetting that NextGen/BB pre-dates RB :P

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fakka13k
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Posted - 2014/03/02 :  05:53:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit fakka13k's homepage
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Where the hell have I been negative about Scott Brown?
Seeing as this is a Happy Hardcore forum I assumed my post related to only hardcore Dj's , I sincerely apologise for that faux pas good sir. I would also like to congratulate you on seeing the great Scotsman 3 times and I am also glad to hear that you would like to see him another 3 times, I shall pray to the baby Jesus before I drift off to my slumber that this can happen for you.
As for it being a silly question , no question is silly if you are searching for an answer , apart from maybe "why can't elephants walk upside down".
I asked the question due to having been listening to my tape packs ranging from 95-99 and the hardcore dj's at that time were not solely pushing the tracks on their labels , for example on a slammin vinyl pack about 90% of the dj's were playing shooting star in their sets, however most of the tapes having brisk djing he didn't play it once. Hixxy was pushing a lot of euro stuff , slipmatt was playing a lot of UK dance stuff and seduction hardly played anything from impact.
Ps thought of another silly question.... But it will keep


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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
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Where the hell have I been negative about Scott Brown?
Seeing as this is a Happy Hardcore forum I assumed my post related to only hardcore Dj's , I sincerely apologise for that faux pas good sir. I would also like to congratulate you on seeing the great Scotsman 3 times and I am also glad to hear that you would like to see him another 3 times, I shall pray to the baby Jesus before I drift off to my slumber that this can happen for you.
As for it being a silly question , no question is silly if you are searching for an answer , apart from maybe "why can't elephants walk upside down".
I asked the question due to having been listening to my tape packs ranging from 95-99 and the hardcore dj's at that time were not solely pushing the tracks on their labels , for example on a slammin vinyl pack about 90% of the dj's were playing shooting star in their sets, however most of the tapes having brisk djing he didn't play it once. Hixxy was pushing a lot of euro stuff , slipmatt was playing a lot of UK dance stuff and seduction hardly played anything from impact.
Ps thought of another silly question.... But it will keep




Well you have an answer to your silly question.

I dont know why you think Hardcore would be any different to any other genre. Playing your own music to promote it has been commonplace before Hardcore.

By saying he always plugs his own stuff sounds pretty negative to me.. If it wasnt, why bring it up? In a night like 'Hardcore Underground' whereby you have various DJs representing their own plethora of labels, you're obviously going to get a great variety of music.

I suggest you actually go see him. Far better an experience than tape packs.


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The drunken scotsman
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On a serious note; why can't elephants walk upside down? A question that has been at the forefront of my mind for many a year.



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....why can't elephants walk upside down?




They do in Australia.


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Paul Elstak always showcased Rotterdam but I don't think I have heard much from other lesser known labels in his sets.

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I myself don't like to mix my own tunes. I always mix from random labels like Dwarf, Babyboom, Test Crash Records and Terror Traxx, or sometimes from very very unknown labels like Blurp! Records which only has 3 releases made in 1994.

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I'm a bit perplexed by this to be honest.. You seem to have a bit of a negative view on it, but have you actually seen him live? It's great!


Well, to be fair, this isn't the first time I've seen people on here complain about the general practice of playing exclusively your own tunes. There clearly is some negative sentiment towards doing this and it would be nice if you could acknowledge it (and then say why you don't think it's a problem) rather than just calling his question silly.


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