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RobW
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 Posted - 2014/08/08 : 00:06:23
I know this is a bit old of a subject, but im just wondering why he doesn't do Happy 2B Hardcore or Hullabaloo anymore? My first Hardcore CD I ever got was Chapter 4 back in 2001 (I was a closet Happy hardcore fan for many years, too embarrassed to let my friends know i liked it).
But anyway, As of last year Ive taken more of a liking to Hardcore, so I dont really know whats been happening in the scene for the past few years.
Eventhough I liked H2BH, I think Chris could have done a lot better with the series, such having more tracks on the mix and releasing more chapters (Or maybe it was more difficult to obtain the music back in those days due to imports and the lack of digital distrabution).
Anywho, anyone have any insight?
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 00:50:02
Many people on the Hullabaloo crew settled down into relationships, or found opportunities else where.
I thought the amount of tracks per disc were fine...I hate these 28-30 track mixes. Also, Happy Hardcore pretty much started dying down in the States mid-2000s. I know, Hullabaloo was in Canada, but the CD market was in the States (Moonshine Music). H2bH was one of Moonshine's top selling series, but I think the company saw the coming decline and banked out before the decline in popularity hit.
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RobW
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 02:22:15
I just wish he had a few more tracks per cd, usually only 15 per mix, so it got a little boring after a while. From what i gather, Chapter 8 wasnt released like the others and was only distributed at the last Hula event (which i managed to download from YouTube.)
However, i dont get why he titled Ch 6 as the final chapter when there were two more afterwards.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 03:57:42
Chapter 6 was titled The Final Chapter because it WAS supposed to be the final chapter. The series was probably revived because of Moonshine. They probably realized how popular the series was and a financial success for the company, so they restarted it.
Due to the financial collapse of Moonshine, however, the last official Happy2BHardcore album was chapter 7. Chapter 8, from what he told me personally, was created as a promotional disc for various labels to possibly have the series signed somewhere else and keep it alive. The WikiPedia page says it was given away as a promotional disc at the last and final Hullabaloo event in 2007, which was 2 years after was deemed the official end of the event.
Chapter 8 is a controversial album, in that many producers have been vocal about Anabolic Frolic selling these CDs for profit. Producers received no royalties from those sales, nor did they initially charge Anabolic Frolic a fee for the inclusion of their tracks on the album since it was initially used as a promotional disc. I bought mine from eBay a long time ago.
As far as why Hullabaloo stopped, it's been mentioned that life happened with most of the DJs. Anabolic Frolic had a child born in the last couple of years that Hullabaloo officially ended in 2005. He probably couldn't support his family on just being the promoter of Hullabaloo, so he took on a more serious and stable job. Recently he's been seen doing magic tricks lol.
There are still some DJs around from that era, specifically DJ Virus. He's still alive and kicking in the Toronto hardcore scene. He's even played in Spain for HTID In The Sun.
As to why there were only 14/15 tracks per album, that's a sign of the times. The majority of mixed albums from pre-2005 have on average 15/16 tracks per album. The mixing style favored a longer track, and also tracks were longer back then as well.
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Samination
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 07:14:52
also, most tracks back then where never under 5 minutes unmixed :P Alot of tracks out today are barely 4:30, and can be mixed out after the first section.
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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 07:22:30
he ripped people off in the scene like seduction
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/08/08 : 09:54:22
He was unhappy 2b Hardcore
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ultraskool
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 Posted - 2014/08/08 : 20:57:46
Thanks for that interesting snippet of Happy 2B Hardcore history. it's very interesting how it all evolved but alas, the misfortunes of Anabolic Frolic. Good to know there are people like Dj Virus still holding out for HHC. is this the same 'Virus' that frequents these HHC forums?
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
Chapter 6 was titled The Final Chapter because it WAS supposed to be the final chapter. The series was probably revived because of Moonshine. They probably realized how popular the series was and a financial success for the company, so they restarted it.
Due to the financial collapse of Moonshine, however, the last official Happy2BHardcore album was chapter 7. Chapter 8, from what he told me personally, was created as a promotional disc for various labels to possibly have the series signed somewhere else and keep it alive. The WikiPedia page says it was given away as a promotional disc at the last and final Hullabaloo event in 2007, which was 2 years after was deemed the official end of the event.
Chapter 8 is a controversial album, in that many producers have been vocal about Anabolic Frolic selling these CDs for profit. Producers received no royalties from those sales, nor did they initially charge Anabolic Frolic a fee for the inclusion of their tracks on the album since it was initially used as a promotional disc. I bought mine from eBay a long time ago.
As far as why Hullabaloo stopped, it's been mentioned that life happened with most of the DJs. Anabolic Frolic had a child born in the last couple of years that Hullabaloo officially ended in 2005. He probably couldn't support his family on just being the promoter of Hullabaloo, so he took on a more serious and stable job. Recently he's been seen doing magic tricks lol.
There are still some DJs around from that era, specifically DJ Virus. He's still alive and kicking in the Toronto hardcore scene. He's even played in Spain for HTID In The Sun.
As to why there were only 14/15 tracks per album, that's a sign of the times. The majority of mixed albums from pre-2005 have on average 15/16 tracks per album. The mixing style favored a longer track, and also tracks were longer back then as well.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/08/10 : 11:37:10
They were alright, but there are plenty of other happy hardcore series that are way better mastered and mixed.
Here is a list of Happy Hardcore CDS that put happy2bhardcore to shame.
HARDCORE HEAVEN
UNITED DANCE
FUSION
BONKERS
SLAMMIN VINYL
WOW WHAT A RUSH
THE WORLD OF
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Candy & anime was just a faze & a total embarrassment that everyone mocks and laughs at now.
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Samination
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Posted - 2014/08/10 : 14:27:47
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Originally posted by rafferty:
They were alright, but there are plenty of other happy hardcore series that are way better mastered and mixed.
Here is a list of Happy Hardcore CDS that put happy2bhardcore to shame.
HARDCORE HEAVEN
UNITED DANCE
FUSION
BONKERS
SLAMMIN VINYL
WOW WHAT A RUSH
THE WORLD OF
oi ya twat, you forgot Off Yer Nut!! :P
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silver
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Posted - 2014/08/11 : 01:12:44
Moonshine went bankrupt soon after 7, chapter 8 was released from Frolic himself and unlicensed, I think Frolic was making more money selling the unlicensed "tape packs" from the events as well (which also ended).
Love or hate the guy, you have to give him props for putting on the events and creating the scene in the US, this is all when social media did not exist.
Last time I heard from him Frolic is now a stage magician / self help tape seller.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/08/11 : 05:46:57
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
They were alright, but there are plenty of other happy hardcore series that are way better mastered and mixed.
Here is a list of Happy Hardcore CDS that put happy2bhardcore to shame.
HARDCORE HEAVEN
UNITED DANCE
FUSION
BONKERS
SLAMMIN VINYL
WOW WHAT A RUSH
THE WORLD OF
oi ya twat, you forgot Off Yer Nut!! :P
Geezer your right, OFF YER NUT was probably the best out of all of them:)
With Sedders, Brisky etc
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RobW
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Posted - 2014/08/14 : 17:22:08
Thanks for the explanation everyone. As I said previously, I've only been seriously into Hardcore for only the past year and a half, so there's lots of stuff i probably missed. (I'm pretty much a HipHop, DnB, Jungle, and House DJ for the past 13 years, but I finally quit resisting Hardcore.
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Onl1ne
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 Posted - 2014/08/14 : 17:35:11
there is no resisting...once its in...your hooked! 13 years now and counting.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/08/14 : 18:13:03
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
He was unhappy 2b Hardcore
Cracking.
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