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warped_candykid
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 Posted - 2015/03/21 : 15:03:16
It seems that back in the 90s, DJs put more effort into the mixing on a CD mix. When did the quality start to drop? I know the Clubland Hardcore CDs were pretty much a smack in the face to the term "mixed", but even now days, it seems DJs are not wanting to do interesting mixing...no tricks, not much of tempo increase. Does the current crowd just not like hearing the mixing part anymore?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/03/21 : 16:13:54
Can't please everybody. I don't think there's less effort at all, it's just easier to throw together a well mixed CD
Some want quick mixing and loads of tracks, others want 'traditional' mixing and less tracks.
Some want tricks and effects, others want to hear more of the tracks without the fancy stuff.
Personally, I want CD mixes to be ridiculous examples of mixing, messing about and fun. But saying that, I buy unmixed tracks too so I'm not bothered if mixed CD's contain less of the tunes.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2015/03/21 : 22:11:23
You need to get some of this in your life.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Club-Mix-96/release/562413
it's a beautiful thing.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/03/21 : 22:12:40
Wrong account Rowan? ;-)
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2015/03/21 : 22:59:07
I'm quite sure I have no idea what you're talking about
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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2015/03/21 : 23:10:21
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Originally posted by Triquatra:
You need to get some of this in your life.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Club-Mix-96/release/562413
it's a beautiful thing.
If that one-star review is anything to go by, then that sounds like a rather entertaining release. I might need to get my hands on a copy of that.
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Mansy
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 12:55:38
I think alot of it has to do with much shorter intros on tracks now. Now its just a quick 16beat intro and then the breakdown is there, it doesnt bother me that way but i do miss the days of one song finishing and then you can hear the next one comming in, example being sy & unknowns remix of slide away with that stutterd vocal. My god im rolling back the years now :D
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ponder
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 15:47:59
I think it's got more to do with the era we're living in than the DJs themselves.
It costs a lot of money to put out a big CD release, and as sales of physical media continue to drop, record labels are less willing to take any risks. They want a professional product that they can sell, which will appeal to the broadest audience. Sadly, we no longer live in a time where a scrappily mixed, but fun, Bonkers album will shift 30,000+ units.
Consider that in the mainstream, most club / dance albums don't even advertise who they're mixed by any more.
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wong
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 17:15:06
personally when i buy a mixed cd i buy it for the music, i couldn't give a shit how it's mixed
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 18:31:58
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Originally posted by Advather:
If that one-star review is anything to go by, then that sounds like a rather entertaining release. I might need to get my hands on a copy of that.
you should be able to pick it up on ebay for about 90p, best 90p you will ever spend.
If I was on the net properly and not having to access through a dodgy connection I would upload one or two clips. So joyful.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 20:36:36
Appalling series of albums.
(Er yes, I still bought them) :-/
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/03/22 : 21:13:14
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Originally posted by wong:
personally when i buy a mixed cd i buy it for the music, i couldn't give a shit how it's mixed
Yea but it's hard not to miss a bad mix, and it gets rather annoying after awhile. People criticize the H2BH for having appalling mixing, but I rarely ever noticed because the tracklists on the album were just insanely good.
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Claxton
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Posted - 2015/03/24 : 11:27:31
Because many albums became more about production and music showcasing than DJing and mixing.
Clubland X-Treme albums are a prime example of this.
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Gazza1712
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Posted - 2015/03/24 : 21:07:30
A lot of the hardcore CDs that are released nowadays arnt actually mixed, they are put through a computer programme and done that way,
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MC Deecee
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Posted - 2015/03/25 : 17:11:34
I can't remember which one exactly but I think it's either bonkers 4 or 5, one of the discs on there is awful, like not even beat matched half the time, at least every other mix is galloping horses all over the shop lol
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2015/03/25 : 20:35:05
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Originally posted by MC Deecee:
I can't remember which one exactly but I think it's either bonkers 4 or 5, one of the discs on there is awful, like not even beat matched half the time, at least every other mix is galloping horses all over the shop lol
Probably Hixxy's mix on Bonkers 4. Honestly, I like that you can tell someone is actually mixing the disc!
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