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E.N.D
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Posted - 2003/04/30 :  17:59:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit E.N.D's homepage  Reply with quote
I was at a wedding once and the dj was ****ing rocking the cdj's!

that's my 2 cents

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CDJay
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Posted - 2003/04/30 :  18:56:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
"Actually, most of the CD jocks I have seen have many tracks that are burned. And they are, for most part, NOT tracks they made themselves"

So? I have loads of tracks on CD, some I've paid for and some I've been given by labels or artists. I don't even DJ.

I suspect those DJs have got those tracks from the label or artist w/ permission for the most part, I don't doubt that commercial club DJs do otherwise but especially w/ upfront material I think it would be pretty cocky to play out material you shouldn't have in such a closed scene. Such things would be VERY potentially damaging to a DJs reputation and chances of getting any new material in the future.

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Broken
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Posted - 2003/04/30 :  20:26:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Well, I don't need to sit here and argue with you cuz you're obviously not wanting to hear what I'm saying... which is basically that most of the cd jocks I've seen spin burned cds... as in stolen music. I'm not like lying or making it up or anything... it's what I've seen and it makes me sick.

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ryg0r
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  01:21:59  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
You have a point, but lets say that I want something from vinyl on CD - I have to rip it. That is perfectly legal if I own it.

No doubt illegal audio (being played etc) is not cool.

But you do say MOST, and not all. Cut the rest of the CDJ's some slack dude.

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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  02:50:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Exhile's homepage  Reply with quote
Just a quetion as im gonna be getting a cd deck soonish. Where can i get cd singles from online?


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Kaffine
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  05:46:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kaffine's homepage  Reply with quote
Just my personal opinion:

CDs will NEVER ever replace vinyl. Vinyl has a very personal feel about it - it's a very personal media. Everyone's records are different - they all have litle idiosyncracies about them and they're irreplacable - a CD can be copied, a CD can be burned - records are records - they're very hard to manufacture for personal use (unless you own a vinyl cutter) and they can gather much sentimental value (as well as monetary - ever seen a CD with two tracks go for $50?) and, as a whole, outlast CDs.

Furthermore, CD decks just can't replicate the LOOK of a true vinyl deck - something is so insanely cool about a picture of a guy standing behind his 1200s, party lighting reflecting off the shiny parts - and the turntables look MASSIVE - they take up SPACE. They have the industrial look to them that I feel defines raves.

That's my two cents. Sorry if I sound like a moron.



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CDJay
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  07:09:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Doubt that CDs will ever totally replace vinyl. difference in my opinion tho is that I don't believe either format or method of DJing is immortal.

It's all very well talking about the benefits of vinyl mixing, but hey it's never going to change is it. Is anyone really short sighted enough to believe that vinyl will NEVER die? In 100 years time u think people will still be DJing off vinyl? That's not a Vinyl vs CD point, I suspect CDs will stop being used before vinyl simply because the average CD listener or DJ will actually embrace new technology rather than blindly ignoring all possibilities and screaming "vinyl 4evaah"

Also, for those who are convinced that CD releases destroy the universe, CLSM, Quosh & Camel ( as well as a few others ) do CD releases and they are selling fine on vinyl too. In fact some labels will actually be pushing CDs harder than vinyl in the near future, and those who insist on only buying and listening to vinyl will miss out on hearing and being able to play a not inconsiderable number of tunes.

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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  07:37:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Exhile's homepage  Reply with quote
Just another question right.


What about MD and MP3

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DJSHINE
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  07:38:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
ok then. This arguement has gone abit off track to what i first posted , but people are arguing about DJ's playing copyed cd's which is ment to be stolen music.(yer its true its stolen music) but i live in england and i work for a DJ company around my area and its not allowed to play any sort of copyed cds. So were ever you have seen dj's playing copyed cd's is wrong because you can get bang up for it in england and none off the dj's at the company i work at use coped cds and other companys dj's don;t use copyed ones.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  08:00:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
"So were ever you have seen dj's playing copyed cd's is wrong because you can get bang up for it in england and none off the dj's at the company i work at use coped cds and other companys dj's don;t use copyed ones."

I'm sure some people do DJ tracks they shouldn't have off CD, but then again I'm sure some people play stolen vinyl as well.

There is only one solution to piracy, don't release anything, ever.

CDJs have done far more good than harm, if you don't believe that much you are woefully uninformed.

edit: To answer your original question DJShine, tbh I'd suggest getting a pair of decks for now, and a single CDJ. Later you can always add another CDJ if you want to play an entirely upfront set, and most clubs will have both options available

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Edited by - CDJay on 2003/05/01 08:11:46
virus
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  09:51:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit virus's homepage  Reply with quote
with the advent of turntablism, beat juggling, and scratching, i serioulsly doubt vinyl would ever go away permenatly.

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DJSHINE
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  10:24:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
i think i will use cd decks more because i have to use them at work , but i will keep my turntables because then i can use them in my spare time and inprove on them incase i ever need to use them in the furture.
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Dave Murray
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  12:16:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by virus:
with the advent of turntablism, beat juggling, and scratching, i serioulsly doubt vinyl would ever go away permenatly.

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Yeah, exactly wat i think, and u cant beat the *Smell* of new Vinyl.



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DJSHINE
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  12:24:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
i have heard that alot used on here about the fresh smell off new vinyl.
I carnt say i get this smell .
Dj Shine

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DJ_Cosmic
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Posted - 2003/05/01 :  12:37:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
stick wi vynil, i started ma mixin on CDs and yea if it want for them then i wunt b dj'in now, but i have found they are so much easyer but vynil for sure

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