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Si Thompson
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
Impulse_Response
Amazing. Hard to believe I was 2 when this happened.
possys2
dont think this was either
DJ_FunDaBounce
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
Agreed.
Ramos, Selektah! :)
Si Thompson
Love this. Played it in a set the other week.
Samination
I like the tracks on the first post. As long as it's not the trancecore that appeared on Ramos' Off Yer Nut!! 2 mix. Those where quite boring, most of them.
Si Thompson
Prefer this on 45RPM like Juice & Cally used to play it.
Alex Threat
couple tracks from the legend Juan Cruz
Samination
never heard of Juan Cruz till today, and I've listened to makina since 2003 :P Legend might be an over-overstatement
Alex Threat
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
never heard of Juan Cruz till today, and I've listened to makina since 2003 :P Legend might be an over-overstatement
Could be, but he was involved with some of the great makina tracks out there. Ruboy has to be one of the best makina producers though
Alex Threat
Ruboy has been involved with so many of the makina anthems over the years. some of his tracks:
Samination
Just like Paul Estak's behind 70-90% of all the dutch happy hardcore, the same could almost be said about Ruben Ruboy haha
Alex Threat
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Just like Paul Estak's behind 70-90% of all the dutch happy hardcore, the same could almost be said about Ruben Ruboy haha
Exactly mate! He, like Paul Elstak is still going too. Makina Station is a new Makina label I know he has been involved with. I've picked up all the releases so far as one of the DJ's (Nos), lives in England so i purchase the vinyl directly from him. Here's the link to the label on discogs:
That's one of the thing I dislike Ruboy for. Apparently he doesn't like digital, similar to Hixxy
nevermind. Apparently the Makina Station releases are from the other labels on Portal Makina
Alex Threat
Yeah, portal makina has some new Ruboy records releases on there too.
EDIT: just noticed some of the tracks on the Vinyl are released under Ruboy records too
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
My favourite Juan Cruz track. 1998..
Alex Threat
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
My favourite Juan Cruz track. 1998..
The staple of many north east makina rave sets! I love this track too
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Alex Threat:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
My favourite Juan Cruz track. 1998..
The staple of many north east makina rave sets! I love this track too
I did a version that Vibes still plays to this day.
Alex Threat
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by Alex Threat:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
My favourite Juan Cruz track. 1998..
The staple of many north east makina rave sets! I love this track too
I did a version that Vibes still plays to this day.
Yep I have it and I've used it before. Decent remix actually. And it was Vibes that I first heard play it actually haha
Si Thompson
I always play 'X Port' on 45.
Si Thompson
Superb!
rafferty
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
Samination
To continue what you started on OneSeventy, I doubt you've listened to all Freeform if you say it turned commercial after 2000.
I'll gladly post the same videos here, and ask you how these 3 sounds anything like commercial trance, or any other genre for that matter?
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
Those tracks were the exact reason why the rave scene started dying quickly, Hixxy, Bunter, Ramos started playing them at events at those speeds and it just killed everything dead.
That was obvious a result of that "meeting" and it was the worst decision ever made. The HHC wasn't great being produced at the time either it was all vocal shite, BUT the odd great track came outta that too, and I am pretty sure the scene would not have had its bleak time then and morphed towards UK Hardcore quicker.
Trancy shit like that needs to stay in the techno rooms it was never main arena worthy. Dave Angel had a massive following for sticking to his guns with trance, and he played alongside the likes of HMS, it worked there, but that tranceore shite alongside brisk etc ? It ****ed it.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
Those tracks were the exact reason why the rave scene started dying quickly, Hixxy, Bunter, Ramos started playing them at events at those speeds and it just killed everything dead.
That was obvious a result of that "meeting" and it was the worst decision ever made. The HHC wasn't great being produced at the time either it was all vocal shite, BUT the odd great track came outta that too, and I am pretty sure the scene would not have had its bleak time then and morphed towards UK Hardcore quicker.
Trancy shit like that needs to stay in the techno rooms it was never main arena worthy. Dave Angel had a massive following for sticking to his guns with trance, and he played alongside the likes of HMS, it worked there, but that tranceore shite alongside brisk etc ? It ****ed it.
Unless Brisk was on earlier in the night, these type of sets were usually early in the main room. I have no issue with that, but they were best kept for the Technodrome, although, this Ramos set is definitely main room worthy. Quality track after quality track.
Si Thompson
I loved Nu Energy around 2004/05.
Si Thompson
I liked this Arkitech remix too. I used to play it along with the original around late 2007.
LeVzi
Clarkee used to play trancey techno in the main rooms start soft and get harder, it worked , but playing anything slow and trancey in the main room killed it, I watched people leaving for the old school rooms or techno rooms , even the jungle rooms, no one liked it.
But, it was welcomed in the techno rooms as the harder techno had gone beyond normal, HMS, Lofty, Scorpio, Producer were playing breakneck speeds, and you couldnt survive to that all night, so the slower trancy stuff was needed before people started dropping.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Clarkee used to play trancey techno in the main rooms start soft and get harder, it worked , but playing anything slow and trancey in the main room killed it, I watched people leaving for the old school rooms or techno rooms , even the jungle rooms, no one liked it.
But, it was welcomed in the techno rooms as the harder techno had gone beyond normal, HMS, Lofty, Scorpio, Producer were playing breakneck speeds, and you couldnt survive to that all night, so the slower trancy stuff was needed before people started dropping.
Clarkee often had two sets @ Helter Skelter. Main room and Technodrome. Played some cracking stuff!
This is one of my favourites. Wicked stuff! Main room also.
Think I'll edit the title of this thread and add Techno also. Plenty of good stuff to explore.
LeVzi
When Clarkee was in that mood, he played some trippy as **** techno, really fked up stuff that was cool , but he always turned the heat up at some point.
But then if he was in that mental mood, Area 51 in full effect.
The Music Maker had an acid light show, that was pretty dope too.
Dave Angel was popular back then, always nice for a break from the mental techno and a good time to chill for a bit , get some energy back.
And this was the only time I saw the big man live.
One of my favourites. Damn.. Freeform was so good around this time.
Si Thompson
Samination
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Such a good tune.
Smoogie
Alex Threat
Si Thompson
Couple of classic Trancecore bits.
Alex Threat
Love feel my desire. Been after it on vinyl for a while now. Loving Loop is another classic too
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Alex Threat:
Love feel my desire. Been after it on vinyl for a while now. Loving Loop is another classic too
I picked them both up for around 15 quid each in the 2000s.
Alex Threat
Steal. I've got loving loop, but code 28 is stupid money now like
Samination
I like the tracks myself, but I have to reject. When did Hard Trance become Trancecore
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Alex Threat:
Steal. I've got loving loop, but code 28 is stupid money now like
I saw. 51 Quid. Yikes!
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
I like the tracks myself, but I have to reject. When did Hard Trance become Trancecore
These aren't Hard House. Hard House is slower. They would come under Trancecore/Hard Trance.
Hard House is 150 BPM. These tracks are around 158-164 BPM.
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
I like the tracks myself, but I have to reject. When did Hard Trance become Trancecore
These aren't Hard House. Hard House is slower. They would come under Trancecore/Hard Trance.
Hard House is 150 BPM. These tracks are around 158-164 BPM.
Eh, I DID write Hard Trance?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
I like the tracks myself, but I have to reject. When did Hard Trance become Trancecore
These aren't Hard House. Hard House is slower. They would come under Trancecore/Hard Trance.
Hard House is 150 BPM. These tracks are around 158-164 BPM.
Eh, I DID write Hard Trance?
I could've swore that said Hard House. Anyway, Hard Trance/Trancecore/Early Freeform. Any of those are fine with me.
Trancecore wasn't actually an official genre name. It was used around 1997 by the DJs that were playing that sort of stuff at the time. So, Sharkey, Ramos, Billy Bunter etc. The same as Juice & Cally coined the term 'Power Trance', which was basically Trance on 45rpm.
A couple of recent freeform track out on stamina records made with A.B. Hope you guys like them and if any mods can embed them for me that would be super great 👍
Didn't know there was a Makina remix of this Storm and Euhpony track. Love the Hard Trance influnces a bunch of makina had around 1999-2003 (although this track is fro m2009)
Didn't know there was a Makina remix of this Storm and Euhpony track. Love the Hard Trance influnces a bunch of makina had around 1999-2003 (although this track is fro m2009)
2001 this came out mate. I've got the vinyl. I think UK hardcore took a lot of influence from Makina, and vice versa to be fair. Quite a few UK hardcore tracks got released on Spanish labels like bit music and xque to try and push hardcore further than just in the UK
Didn't know there was a Makina remix of this Storm and Euhpony track. Love the Hard Trance influnces a bunch of makina had around 1999-2003 (although this track is fro m2009)
2001 this came out mate. I've got the vinyl. I think UK hardcore took a lot of influence from Makina, and vice versa to be fair. Quite a few UK hardcore tracks got released on Spanish labels like bit music and xque to try and push hardcore further than just in the UK
rofl, for some reason i saw the youtube upload date as the release date >_< Then this predates Storm & Euphony
Alex Threat
Haha, no worries mate. It's on a label called Uptempo. A great Spanish Makina Label with some epic releases on it!
Samination
I've been mixing makina since 2008, I know what it is XD
I just haven't listened to every single track
Si Thompson
Alex Threat
Couple of recent acquisitions over the weekend
Si Thompson
Still sounds great.
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
possys2
Sulphurik
Did like most of Tekno Dred Alliance trancecore tracks and the sound from the xy2 & Stompin Choonz, Nu Energy labels.
Zonked
Si Thompson
possys2
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Hixxy played this at @ Helter Skelter 'Nightlife' in 1999. Wicked tune.
Si Thompson
Love this.
possys2
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by possys2:
Every week in the record shop I used to grab every new release during this period. Stuff like Switched On, Switched On Whites, Ballistic Bootlegs, Blizzard Tracks, Hardcore Collections, Relentless Vinyl etc.
Spent a fortune in the 2000s.
Si Thompson
My favourite HMS set. This is ferocious.
possys2
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by possys2:
Every week in the record shop I used to grab every new release during this period. Stuff like Switched On, Switched On Whites, Ballistic Bootlegs, Blizzard Tracks, Hardcore Collections, Relentless Vinyl etc.
Spent a fortune in the 2000s.
same here mate. used to work behind the bar in a working mens club, get paid on a thursday morning, get the train to notts n spend half me wages on vinyl. few beers on way home, then round me mates for a mix with our new choons, with a bit of bong thrown in.
then work that night at 7pm!! think that was around 2002. brilliant days
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by possys2:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by possys2:
Every week in the record shop I used to grab every new release during this period. Stuff like Switched On, Switched On Whites, Ballistic Bootlegs, Blizzard Tracks, Hardcore Collections, Relentless Vinyl etc.
Spent a fortune in the 2000s.
same here mate. used to work behind the bar in a working mens club, get paid on a thursday morning, get the train to notts n spend half me wages on vinyl. few beers on way home, then round me mates for a mix with our new choons, with a bit of bong thrown in.
then work that night at 7pm!! think that was around 2002. brilliant days
Mates, Bong and Records were literally my middle to late teens. I loved that 2000-2005 period.
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
iforgotmylogin
I thought some people in this thread might enjoy this mix - its a bit of hard trance/freeform/gabber...
Dj Proteus & carbon based - heavy fusion
Scott Project - F the future is now
Dj Thera - lost in trance L.A. Tion
Tankis & Savietto - outrageous
Dj RX - Hellfire (proteus remix)
Doc savage - masterblaster (Kevin energy & doc savage rmx)
Asa & s1 - the future is ours
Ephexis & oli g - spatial inversion
Gammer - can?t compete
Darwin obie & mr e - future shock
Arkitech - under the influence
aalyx - cyber revolution
Hellsystem - burn this city
Ophidian - the Phoenix
Sulphurik
Came across a remix of this track below.
This is the Nothing But Rocket remix from last year.
Both versions sound great.
Sulphurik
Komakino - their tracks are classed as being hard trance but tracks were quite fast and rave sounding but wouldn't class as happy hardcore. They did make some classics.
Big fan of Controlling transmission (Final Fantasy alias) and Dune - who wants to be forever (Komakino remix) which is superb.
This isn't freeform but thought I'd share this video. Many of you will recognise the keyboard player.
Came across this track recently and thought the keyboard player looked very like Kevin, it is him. This project seems to be going for a couple of years now. I like the sound of this track.
