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Anon.
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Posted - 2019/06/16 :  21:15:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Anon.'s homepage  Reply with quote
This is close enough for now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAd8gpdjoz8

This tune is better than every UK hardcore track released in the last 9 or ten years bar a few.




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Edited by - Anon. on 2019/06/16 21:17:08
Coolgamer
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Posted - 2019/06/17 :  02:45:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Coolgamer's homepage  Reply with quote
Can't for the life of me understand people that horde music and refuse to release it for sale. I'm not a fan of limited-edition releases, but to have some real bangers tied up in licensing or kept from the public by just one or two people... this stuff should be preserved for the future generations, and for those of us that grew up with it. I'd gladly pay a good deal for almost any lossless versions of the tracks I enjoyed in my youth. To just let it stagnate and rot seems a sin. I also fear that if things like the DATs aren't transferred they will eventually degrade and be worthless.

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CDJay
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Posted - 2019/06/17 :  19:57:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
You couldn't be more right. This should have been done TWO DECADES AGO. I know some people are sore about the Sharkey album but it's a genuine miracle we got that out as we did. It cost me on every quantifiable level. This is only getting harder to do, and the rewards are lessening to incentivize doing. We'll do what we can, but having the least rewarded outfit in a decade be in charge of stuff they should have sorted before our inception is a weird one 😂

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Edited by - CDJay on 2019/06/17 20:00:16
Brainchild
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Posted - 2019/06/17 :  20:30:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Brainchild's homepage  Reply with quote
I find it even more scary when you start digging into things further just how wide spread the problem is, not just in happy hardcore, but the music industry and dare I say, the entertainment industry as a whole, that we lose so much before it can be preserved.

I recently discovered that the studio where music such as Whiter Shade of Pale, the Rocky Horror Picture Show and even The Life of Brian destroyed all their masters during the 1980s simply because the owners didn't want them. Then you look at how much TV programmes have been considered lost, primarily during the 60s and 70s because they basically erased it so the tape could be reused.

So it does seem that the entertainment industry as a whole seems to have lacked a fair amount of desire to truly preserve the past for future generations. Then you read about things such as Hixxy and UFO no longer having any of their back catalogue due to hard drive failures etc and you start wondering how much more has been lost over the years.


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CDJay
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Posted - 2019/06/18 :  15:39:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Did you hear about the recently revealed music catalogue losses in that Universal fire?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-music-fire/musicians-lament-reported-loss-of-recordings-in-decade-old-universal-fire-idUKKCN1TE02N



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Samination
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Posted - 2019/06/18 :  19:24:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Not to say nothing about the gaming industry

https://kotaku.com/square-enix-doesnt-know-where-some-of-its-old-games-are-1835501374

CDJay: and that's supposedly not new news. Only the scope of the whole ordeal seems to have been changed from irrelevant to HUGE. I guess it makes the alphamagic fire into a piss take


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Edited by - Samination on 2019/06/18 19:25:52
Coolgamer
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Posted - 2019/06/25 :  04:12:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Coolgamer's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Not to say nothing about the gaming industry

https://kotaku.com/square-enix-doesnt-know-where-some-of-its-old-games-are-1835501374

CDJay: and that's supposedly not new news. Only the scope of the whole ordeal seems to have been changed from irrelevant to HUGE. I guess it makes the alphamagic fire into a piss take



I looked, but I can't find any news articles about the Alphamagic fire or a clear sense of just what all was lost. I thought something like that would make a good entry in the Lost Media Wiki.


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Samination
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Posted - 2019/06/25 :  09:46:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I think CDJay can collaborate more on that

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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/06/25 :  21:31:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Si Thompson's homepage  Reply with quote
Samination once told me that 'Force & Styles - Heart Of Gold' was Jungle music.

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Samination
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Posted - 2019/06/26 :  02:58:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Samination once told me that 'Force & Styles - Heart Of Gold' was Jungle music.



You're voting for Boris aren't ya?


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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2020/01/31 :  13:22:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Si Thompson's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
I've never heard it in any live sets, very odd. Not to sound like a total bastard but I have this unmixed on mp3!





Force & Styles - Helter Skelter 'Energy '99'
Dougal - Slammin' Vinyl (12-11-1999)


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LeVzi
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Posted - 2020/01/31 :  14:32:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit LeVzi's homepage  Reply with quote
Was this what you all talking about ?



That guy has it, maybe ask him for a rip.





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MusicILove
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Posted - 2020/01/31 :  15:03:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
I will be playing it in my mix that's coming out tomorrow.

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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2020/01/31 :  16:41:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Si Thompson's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeVzi:
Was this what you all talking about ?



That guy has it, maybe ask him for a rip.





Nah. He won't. I have it on dubplate, but it's a bit shagged. I could really do with a decent digital copy.

I would probably get it pressed to a 10 inch white.


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2020/01/31 :  17:03:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
I spoke to Force again about this last week. Gonna catch up with me in the next month with an update, hopefully something positive.

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