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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/07/09 : 10:24:52
To me since Hardstyle has introduced those massive Dutch Hardcore & Gabber type kicks in the past few years and gotten a bit faster. It has seemed to have knocked almost every Hard edged rave scene genre out of the ballpark.
I used to hate the genre when it sounded like Hard Trance. But now days I can relate to it the same way I used to relate to 90s Happy Hardcore & Hardcore.
Not only that, I prefer the crowd and the image of Hardstyle. Happy Hardcore has pushed a lot of it's original fans away when all the candy and Japanese animation influences took over. Nobody takes it seriously.
The crowd looks like some kind of freakshow in places like Australia and North America. Dressed like animation characters and cyberfools.
The production of Hardstyle in second to none at the moment. To me UK Hardcore can learn a lot from the success of Hardstyle. Maybe start by Hardening those kicks and ditch the candy.
Intents Festival is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Fit girls and everyone in summer and streetwear instead of the candy freaks you see at a lot of the Happy Hardcore parties these days.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,072 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/07/09 : 15:11:49
"Ah, I see that you like Hardstyle? The music must be good right?"
"Nah, I'm in it for the fit girls man"
Also, not all of that is Hardstyle (Especially the Destructive Tendencies bit right in the middle, playing Tears of Fury - No Control, which I need to go and buy now)
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/07/09 : 17:35:14
I don't even have the will or passion to argue against this anymore lol.
It's def a better sound than the electrocore or dubstep influences.
UK hardcore is dead. There is more early hhc being produced these days than actual uk hardcore.
Your fashion sense and lack of love for wacky aspects suck though :p
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/07/09 : 19:50:54
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
"Ah, I see that you like Hardstyle? The music must be good right?"
"Nah, I'm in it for the fit girls man"
Also, not all of that is Hardstyle (Especially the Destructive Tendencies bit right in the middle, playing Tears of Fury - No Control, which I need to go and buy now)
Yeah is gabber at the end. But I just think UK Hardcore can learn a lot from.the way the Netherlands is doing things with their sound and scene.
Lets face it, guys dressed in Candy is not a good look. And pictures of animation characters on the front of a UK Hardcore/Happy Hardcore mixes and events etc...just makes our scene look.."Gay".
The UK rave culture, crowd and sound was much more like what the Netherlands is now when you look at our scene back in the mid to late 90s.
Impulse_Response Advanced Member
United States
724 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2018/07/09 : 22:16:46
Maybe find a new forum if you don't like current hardcore, instead of complaining about it.
Hardstyle sounds like garbage with those distorted kicks. So many good leads and melodies, but always with that digusting "BOONNGG BOONNNG" kick.
To be honest I don't like the current sound of hardcore, but I also put almost no time or energy into finding music anymore. Other than the odd album from HU I don't buy a whole lot, and I don't spend time on Soundcloud looking into new releases.
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,635 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2018/07/10 : 10:55:28
It feels a little...empty...though, so it could well be another producer just trying to recreate their sound.
But all the ones that spring to mind when I hear the song...
Norman Bass - How Do You Like Bass (Warp Brothers Remix)
Contact - We Gotta Connect (Warp Brothers Remix)
Double Figures - Hey DJ (Warp Brothers Remix)
Warp Brothers - We Will Survive
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/07/14 : 03:33:57
Hardstyle is taking Hardcore where it used to be and is meant to be.. Hard kicks is what real Hardcore is.
Because their music productions and parties are showing us how it should be done.
Hardstyle is more Hardcore than UK Hardcore
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