| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Kebab Head |
here is Unknowns official announcement regarding the DJ Sy stuff..... so here we have it... i actually stuck up for sy many times but i will no longer listen to any of his stuff at all until he atleast tries to clear his name but as it stands hes on the sex offenders register until he actually proves that he isnt.... you dont go on sex offenders register for a minor offence
https://www.facebook.com/chrisunknown/posts/10153988750190511?comment_id=47841595¬if_t=like
Chris Sargent
1 hr ?
Many of you have raised your concerns with me about the apparent split in the hardcore scene and some animosity between certain DJ?s/Mc?s and one particular DJ.
The hardcore scene has been a huge part of me for over 20 years and my decision to remain silent has been solely to protect ?the way of life? we love. Listening to many of you, I fear however that this approach risks harming the unity I am trying so hard to protect. So IT IS TIME to set the record straight about why we no longer work together and you may understand why others that know the detail feel the same way.
When I discovered through a friend in November 2012 that this prominent DJ had a criminal conviction and was listed on the sex offenders? register, I was shocked and alarmed. What had he done, what did it mean for our music, the record label and our followers, did I really know the person I had worked with daily for the past 20 years?
I was initially angry, but as a loyal person I couldn?t turn my back on someone I considered not only a business associate but also a friend. As a result I recommended he posted a statement online to limit the damage, which he did and then I sought to identify the facts. As you can imagine I had a number of questions and concerns, including:
? What was he guilty of?
? Had some of the odd behaviour over the years been linked to some criminal activity that could impact the scene?
? Why the ?minor? offence he claimed he had committed required his home and the studio to be dawn raided in 2007 by police?
? Why he had a travel ban to certain countries?
The story just didn?t add-up and as a parent, with the studio in my home I needed to be certain of the truth as I could no longer trust him.
And so those close to him made one simple request - SHARE WITH US A FULL CRIMINAL RECORD BUREAU REPORT (CRB) SO WE CAN BE CERTAIN THAT HIS CLAIM OF AN ?INNOCENT MISTAKE? LEADING TO A MINOR CRIMINAL CONVICTION THAT ?SOME PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND? was full and accurate.
He has REFUSED to provide this CRB. In essence, he was willing to walk away from the scene ?he loves? rather than provide evidence that he has nothing to hide, and that just blows my mind.
Four-months before the conviction was made public and became known to me, his behaviour turned increasingly odd. One day in July 2012 he visited me at home aggressively accusing me of ?being up to something? and stated he no longer wanted to work with me. He later admitted that his behaviour was due to his ?paranoia? fuelled by concerns that he would be ?found out?. It was ultimately his decision at this point to walk away from a 20 year friendship and working relationship.
Some 18 months on, a long-standing friendship is over and no-one is more disappointed about that than me, we no longer work together and I have had to re-establish a label and my reputation, making sure I am not affiliated with him in any way.
I don?t know what he has done, no one does but him and I am certainly NOT accusing him of anything. Because of his actions and refusal to offer any proof for his explanation of events I have decided I want nothing more to do with him.
By speaking out now I risk a lot but the constant speculation is toxic for us all. I am proud of the music we created together and the joy we gave to others in the scene but I am disgusted by him and his actions.
I have spoken out now because every time I am asked about what went on, it casts a dark shadow over everything we are doing to move past this. All I ask is that people stop reminding me of these terrible events and we get back to what we all love and what we as Ravers are known for... P.L.U.R.
I will not comment on this matter again, we have to move on......
IT'S TIME. |
| Elipton |
Maybe we should call him..
..DJ SLY
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| Kebab Head |
hes defo got something to hide...
he should only be booked for under 18s and not be able to perform unless he does a CRB as its law to have one to work with under 18s - i had to have one when i worked in a family bar :) chances are he wont sign the required form that is needed for an enhanced one.... is there actually a way to check if someone is on the sex offenders register? |
| Kebab Head |
anyone with kids who live near Sy could try this?
https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-a-person-has-a-record-for-child-sexual-offences
should clear up the situation |
| Elipton |
an unknowing Unknown not knowing what's going on |
| HollowRipper |
But his name doesn't appear on the sex offenders register though?
I dunno. Certainly doesn't look good, but certainly doesn't confirm anything. |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by HollowRipper:
But his name doesn't appear on the sex offenders register though?
I dunno. Certainly doesn't look good, but certainly doesn't confirm anything.
how do you know? theres no way to check unless you have a CRB done which it will be included on an enchanced one coz everything is.... if you manage to get a copy of his criminal record... bribe his solicitor maybe or raid his house coz when you go to court you can easily get a copy i've had my criminal record in full a few times whne i've been court... or my asking the police if u have kids and live in the surrounding area like it say s in that link |
| Kebab Head |
look at this picture lmao how ironic hahahaha weird how the adverts pop up and collection information off this forum hahah
http://t.co/byCuVdz9qA |
| Elipton |
You should be on some kind of register for a Twitter pic like that xD |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
You should be on some kind of register for a Twitter pic like that xD
ur only jealous |
| latininxtc |
He hasn't told us anything new. We knew about the country bans when all this happened. If I remember correctly, those bans were lifted. And maybe I'm remembering him wrong, but he was on the sex offender list originally, but not anymore. Perhaps some of the old posts on here have any of that info again.
And if he's still on the sex offender's list, can't you look him up by his actual name, or even look him up by area of residency? I know we have at least the ability to check by city here in Texas, and I think all of the US. |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
He hasn't told us anything new. We knew about the country bans when all this happened. If I remember correctly, those bans were lifted. And maybe I'm remembering him wrong, but he was on the sex offender list originally, but not anymore. Perhaps some of the old posts on here have any of that info again.
And if he's still on the sex offender's list, can't you look him up by his actual name, or even look him up by area of residency? I know we have at least the ability to check by city here in Texas, and I think all of the US.
this isnt available in the uk |
| Cyrax |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
You should be on some kind of register for a Twitter pic like that xD
ur only jealous
Doesnt he Captain the Starship Enterprise ?
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| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrax:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
You should be on some kind of register for a Twitter pic like that xD
ur only jealous
Doesnt he Captain the Starship Enterprise ?
Yes, but he's since retired to manage the X-men |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrax:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
You should be on some kind of register for a Twitter pic like that xD
ur only jealous
Doesnt he Captain the Starship Enterprise ?
Yes, but he's since retired to manage the X-men
Never insult the great Patrick Stewart by comparing him with whatever that is! |
| djDMS |
Sy's reply makes interesting reading.
The plot thickens! |
| arpz |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Sy's reply makes interesting reading.
The plot thickens!
Just for anyone that can't get it for whatever reason -
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Sy Quosh Hi Chris
To address some of the points you raise:
1. Let me be very, VERY clear with regards a CRB check. An organisation within the scene carried out a full CRB check in Dec 2012 with my complete consent and as soon as was possible after my ?trial? by social media in Nov 2012. That organisation was happy to continue booking me. To publicly state that I refused to have one carried out is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNTRUE. However, the CRB did not resolve matters, because it was never going to ? what is really at play here is a fixation by some to relentlessly pursue a quest to exaggerate the severity of what happened, driven by an insatiable desire for power and control in the upfront hardcore scene via constant, aggressive and malicious bullying that certainly no parent like you should tolerate. THIS is the point which needs closure.
2. For the sake of repetition, it was a Police CAUTION and NOT a criminal conviction.
3. This CAUTION (as with ANY Police caution) can lead to additional Visa requirements depending on the country visited but I did NOT face any travel ban to any country at any time.
4. I won?t comment on your subjective assessment of ?odd behaviour?. I could share lots more information about people?s ?behaviour? in the scene to cement my point above on bullying. The Police have ZERO interest in me other than to hear of my continued updates to them with regards this attempted bullying, intimidation and character assassination.
5. Your comment about walking away from the scene is also UNTRUE. I still DJ today. However, because of social media ?statements? like yours, my life, my heart and my career is no longer in the upfront hardcore scene so I agree and support your request for people to move on, 100% because nothing (and certainly not another CRB) will bring this to closure for some.
6. I did NOT tell you in July 2012 that I didn?t want to work with you. In fact, I still haven?t.
7. Delighted to hear this is ?your? last comment on the matter. This is most definitely mine. |
| latininxtc |
I think Sy should write a tell-all book about the scene and his current experience. Imagine all of the knowledge and secrets he has held for over 2 decades now in the scene. |
| HollowRipper |
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
That's what i searched on. It's pretty extensive and Simon Cranny doesn't appear anywhere in it. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by HollowRipper:
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
That's what i searched on. It's pretty extensive and Simon Cranny doesn't appear anywhere in it.
I looked on there too, nothing came about either. |
| versia |
this trial by witch-hunt is pretty pathetic, people need to move on
i don't give a shit about sy (or unknown for that matter) does in his spare time. |
| ConnerIntenzifi |
All this just sums up how pathetic the uk hardcore scene is. You would have thought when it first came about they would have done everything behind the scenes, the checks etc...
A big part of a guys career is ruined & all "they" keep doing is bitching over facebook etc...
I'm one of only 3 promoters in Scotland & it makes me want to say **** them & let it go down the drain here which is close anyway. Only just keeping it alive |
| Kebab Head |
what was the police caution then?i had a few police cautions before i actually started to get convicted of stuff.... in the UK if the offence is serious enough it doesnt matter if you've never been arrested before you will be arrested and sent to court if its deemed a serious offence. i'm intruiged what the police caution is as if its just a police caution then its not even serious |
| ConnerIntenzifi |
From what I can gather from the posts ages ago was to do with a video or pics or 2 16 year olds or something & although its legal to have sex with them its not legal to posses images, videos or whatever of them. Abit backwards if you ask me haha.
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| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
here is Unknowns official announcement regarding the DJ Sy stuff..... so here we have it... i actually stuck up for sy many times but i will no longer listen to any of his stuff at all until he atleast tries to clear his name but as it stands hes on the sex offenders register until he actually proves that he isnt.... you dont go on sex offenders register for a minor offence
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what was the police caution then?i had a few police cautions before i actually started to get convicted of stuff.... in the UK if the offence is serious enough it doesnt matter if you've never been arrested before you will be arrested and sent to court if its deemed a serious offence. i'm intruiged what the police caution is as if its just a police caution then its not even serious
Is that some serious back-peddling? Personally I don't think he was/is on the sex offenders register, that's just the story growing arms and legs and being exaggerated and speculated out of control at Karl's behest. Looks like you just joined the 'I love Storm club' and now you are not so sure you want in after all. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
From what I can gather from the posts ages ago was to do with a video or pics or 2 16 year olds or something & although its legal to have sex with them its not legal to posses images, videos or whatever of them. Abit backwards if you ask me haha.
yea it was a pic. and I agree it makes no sense why there a difference in age in consentual sex and nude pics and videos. Make it straight across. |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
From what I can gather from the posts ages ago was to do with a video or pics or 2 16 year olds or something & although its legal to have sex with them its not legal to posses images, videos or whatever of them. Abit backwards if you ask me haha.
yea it was a pic. and I agree it makes no sense why there a difference in age in consentual sex and nude pics and videos. Make it straight across.
so its ok to **** a 16 year old senseless but not have apic of her tits??? hahahaha this goes to show how ****ed up some laws are and now i can see why theres sooo much confusion regarding the who situation and why some people jump on the "sex offender" register haha no way is there really two seperate laws?
and for the record i cant stand storm hes a grad A cock |
| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
From what I can gather from the posts ages ago was to do with a video or pics or 2 16 year olds or something & although its legal to have sex with them its not legal to posses images, videos or whatever of them. Abit backwards if you ask me haha.
yea it was a pic. and I agree it makes no sense why there a difference in age in consentual sex and nude pics and videos. Make it straight across.
so its ok to **** a 16 year old senseless but not have apic of her tits??? hahahaha this goes to show how ****ed up some laws are and now i can see why theres sooo much confusion regarding the who situation and why some people jump on the "sex offender" register haha no way is there really two seperate laws?
and for the record i cant stand storm hes a grad A cock
It makes perfect sense. It's so a 16 or 17 year old can't be victimized by having porn of them being spread around. Being 18, you're officially an adult and you can make the choice, but 16 or 17 year olds are protected so they're not taken advantage of as minors.
I personally think the age of consent in the UK is too low and should also be 18, but teenagers gonna ****. I personally think a watchful eye needs to be placed on adults over 21 who have sex with someone under 18. |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
From what I can gather from the posts ages ago was to do with a video or pics or 2 16 year olds or something & although its legal to have sex with them its not legal to posses images, videos or whatever of them. Abit backwards if you ask me haha.
yea it was a pic. and I agree it makes no sense why there a difference in age in consentual sex and nude pics and videos. Make it straight across.
so its ok to **** a 16 year old senseless but not have apic of her tits??? hahahaha this goes to show how ****ed up some laws are and now i can see why theres sooo much confusion regarding the who situation and why some people jump on the "sex offender" register haha no way is there really two seperate laws?
and for the record i cant stand storm hes a grad A cock
It makes perfect sense. It's so a 16 or 17 year old can't be victimized by having porn of them being spread around. Being 18, you're officially an adult and you can make the choice, but 16 or 17 year olds are protected so they're not taken advantage of as minors.
I personally think the age of consent in the UK is too low and should also be 18, but teenagers gonna ****. I personally think a watchful eye needs to be placed on adults over 21 who have sex with someone under 18.
Yes I know the main difference and why it's necessary but it's a ridiculous reason. Just make the age of consent 18 AND the age you have to meet to be involved in any form of pornography 18 as well.
And yes I know very well that under 18s are going to fuck, but the 18 and up law isn't a ban on those under that age from having sex, it's about consensual sex with those above the age and those below it. Under 18s should be free to fuck each other all they want, but there should also be allowed a difference in age as well, like 3 or 4yr difference among each other. So a 20yr old can't go to jail for dating and sleeping around with a 17 since the ages are that close. But a 19yr old sleeping around with a 13yr old, that's ****ing creepy. Same goes with a 17yr old with an 11yr old. |
| The drunken scotsman |
Strange. Unknown doesn't know much more than anyone else and Sy claims he has a CRB but stops short of saying it clears his name, only that this mystery promoter was happy to book him. I just don't understand why he doesn't show this to Chris of all people if he's indeed innocent. These statement raise more questions than answers really. |
| Sc@r |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Sy's reply makes interesting reading.
The plot thickens!
Just for anyone that can't get it for whatever reason -
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Sy Quosh Hi Chris
To address some of the points you raise:
1. Let me be very, VERY clear with regards a CRB check. An organisation within the scene carried out a full CRB check in Dec 2012 with my complete consent and as soon as was possible after my ?trial? by social media in Nov 2012. That organisation was happy to continue booking me. To publicly state that I refused to have one carried out is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNTRUE. However, the CRB did not resolve matters, because it was never going to ? what is really at play here is a fixation by some to relentlessly pursue a quest to exaggerate the severity of what happened, driven by an insatiable desire for power and control in the upfront hardcore scene via constant, aggressive and malicious bullying that certainly no parent like you should tolerate. THIS is the point which needs closure.
2. For the sake of repetition, it was a Police CAUTION and NOT a criminal conviction.
3. This CAUTION (as with ANY Police caution) can lead to additional Visa requirements depending on the country visited but I did NOT face any travel ban to any country at any time.
4. I won?t comment on your subjective assessment of ?odd behaviour?. I could share lots more information about people?s ?behaviour? in the scene to cement my point above on bullying. The Police have ZERO interest in me other than to hear of my continued updates to them with regards this attempted bullying, intimidation and character assassination.
5. Your comment about walking away from the scene is also UNTRUE. I still DJ today. However, because of social media ?statements? like yours, my life, my heart and my career is no longer in the upfront hardcore scene so I agree and support your request for people to move on, 100% because nothing (and certainly not another CRB) will bring this to closure for some.
6. I did NOT tell you in July 2012 that I didn?t want to work with you. In fact, I still haven?t.
7. Delighted to hear this is ?your? last comment on the matter. This is most definitely mine.
you do have to feel for him! Theres worse people in the scene who have done worse then that and get away with it.
thought why has this scene became so public and full of bullying now? |
| Gazza1712 |
It was slammin vinyl who carried out the crb check and it was a full and proper one and took
6 weeks to get the results back, storm and chris both knew he agreed to it and that it was grant at slammin vinyl that was doing it |
| djDMS |
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
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| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
At least Hardcore Underground is still alive and doing well! It's the only label that really peaks my interest atm. That and the freeform labels, although I haven't been keeping up with freeform as of late I think I'll peruse Stamina Records if I have the time. Gotta finish packing first going out of town for the weekend. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
It was slammin vinyl who carried out the crb check and it was a full and proper one and took
6 weeks to get the results back, storm and chris both knew he agreed to it and that it was grant at slammin vinyl that was doing it
Sy hasn't been booked by Slammin Vinyl since it kicked off as far as I know. Unless he's saying they were happy to book him but didn't because of other factors such as MC storm. |
| DJ SCOTT DEVOTION |
quote:
Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
All this just sums up how pathetic the uk hardcore scene is. You would have thought when it first came about they would have done everything behind the scenes, the checks etc...
A big part of a guys career is ruined & all "they" keep doing is bitching over facebook etc...
I'm one of only 3 promoters in Scotland & it makes me want to say **** them & let it go down the drain here which is close anyway. Only just keeping it alive
I have to agree with you ConnerIntenzifi.
I have not been participating in this scene since mid 2010, I thought it was a pathetic scene then, full of people in it for the wrong reasons. Myself, as an outsider to hardcore music, looking back recently on what is happening within hardcore and listening to the music and seeing how it is all going, I read and listen in disgust. The scene is so amature, with many top name DJ's and MC's acting like little school kids bitching on the NET, these guys are older men in there mid 30's plus, think some people need to grow up and move on and pass the baton on to the younger generation, sort it out you idiots. It is not the most mature of scenes anyway.
As DJ DMS said:
"Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone"
Yes agree and looking at the scene and catching up on it, it seems far worse than when I knew the ins and out's speaking to fellow dj's etc. Dam shame imo to see a scene make itself look so pathetic in so many ways, not just in this thread topic. May be the so called people whom run the hardcore scene will sort it all out.
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| fakka13k |
I wonder if this has reared it's ugly head again due to HTID Ravers Choice? I'm guessing Storm has had a bit of a backlash from the promoters and maybe other dj's? Rekkon he's gotten Chris to hold off his statement on the matter as a last ditch attemp maybe?
Anyway Fcuk storm! |
| ricHARDcore |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ SCOTT DEVOTION:
I have not been participating in this scene since mid 2010, I thought it was a pathetic scene then, full of people in it for the wrong reasons. Myself, as an outsider to hardcore music, looking back recently on what is happening within hardcore and listening to the music and seeing how it is all going, I read and listen in disgust. The scene is so amature, with many top name DJ's and MC's acting like little school kids bitching on the NET, these guys are older men in there mid 30's plus, think some people need to grow up and move on and pass the baton on to the younger generation, sort it out you idiots. It is not the most mature of scenes anyway.
As DJ DMS said:
"Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone"
Yes agree and looking at the scene and catching up on it, it seems far worse than when I knew the ins and out's speaking to fellow dj's etc. Dam shame imo to see a scene make itself look so pathetic in so many ways, not just in this thread topic. May be the so called people whom run the hardcore scene will sort it all out.
What I feel is happening is that some people are ruining this scene by thinking too much about them and what people think of them.
The thing is that "rave partys" are all about the crowd, the music and having fun. (not about you and yourself)
I know so many good guys who were implicated in the scene and who have disappear because they were sick of all of this bullying! Come on
What about hitting the "reset" button and starting all over? Anyway, my point is that we should stand together and help each others. The others, who don't wanna follow, they are the kind we are talking about here.
Imagine how others feel when reading all of this bashing! It makes me sick to see all those talented producers leaving or moving to other scenes!
I don't know so much about Sy's history. What I know is that he was an excellent producer and Dj not so long ago. So much talented. This guy have done a lot for Hardcore. That's the facts
The rest of the history is speculations as nobody have a real "proof" of it. (from what I read) If so, correct me!
I know he refuse to tell the truth but that's his choice. He will have to deal with the consequences now. So get over this and give this guy what he deserve. Respect for what he did for hardcore and have some reserve about his personal life. As Sc@r said, I'm pretty sure many people did worst things and nobody even notice.
We should start some label like: global Hardcore - Or - Reborn Hardcore - I would jump into some project like that and just let the others auto-destroy themselves instead of letting them destroy everything.
I love Happy/Uk hardcore... The old stuff.... Where people were authentic... music was diversify, every producer as his own identity. We can observe this in the new breed of hardcore artists, many times in other country than the UK... (and that's a shame as it come from the Uk)
Once again, sorry if I make mistakes as I speak french at home.
PLUR
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| Luna-C |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
Those days never existed. There was just no internet so the dicks were dicks in private, and the common goal was make good music rather than be king of the pond.
As for this whole thing? I think it unfair that anyone should expect Sy to "give evidence" to the general public - firstly because it was a private matter and should have remained so. Those who made it public are massively irresponsible. And secondly, as Sy well knows, it would do no good. He would have to defend himself forever repeatedly. If he came on here and uploaded some proof or whatever, in 3 months time the same accusation would be made on a different site.
I hardly know Sy, but I like him because he has always dealt reasonably with me. I don't know Unknown as all, but I have no animosity towards him either. What I am saying is I have no dog in this fight Syhe had done something terrible, he would be in jail. If the police raided his house, you know they would have wanted to be able to convict - and if they did not, its because they could not. So I feel the worst he did was get caught with images that anyone who has ever looked at porn online has seen. This makes me think he was just very unlucky.
Even worst luck was having some of the "friends" he had.
When this originally blew up, I wrote a thing defending Sy, and I sent it to him to make sure it was okay if I posted it. Thats what adults do - discuss private matters privately. He did not want me to post it because he hoped it would all die down and go away.
I am dismayed (but sadly not surprised) that certain people in the scene thought it would be okay to just blurt out such damaging stuff. A mans career has been irrevocably damaged by rumour and idiocy. Since it happened, I have avoided those people like the plague. They are not to be trusted because they have shown they have neither the ability or the desire to act like mature adults.
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| Luna-C |
There doesn't seem to be an edit button, but it should read:
"I am saying is I have no dog in this fight. IF Sy had done something terrible"
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| Simon |
Couldn't really agree more with everything that's been said. Sy made it quite clear, NOT prosecuted and no travel bans etc. Something very minor (no pun intended!) has happened and we know the UK laws are very strict on this sort of thing, rightly so when it comes to those monsters out there who take advantage of children. If he was one of those monsters then the world would already know and the fact we don't know goes some way to proving his innosence.
It's a very emotive subject when accusations are made that involve people under age and often the guilty verdict is passed as soon as the rumours start. As for a CRB check, you just don't go around waving those in anybody's face, like Chris said it won't do him any good or make this go away. The horse has already bolted, the people have already judged it is a fait accompli.
It's a shame about his friends, time he moved on and made some new ones, perhaps he should consider doing the same with his music and join a new scene either way I wish him all the best and hope he can get his life back on track. I refuse to condemn anyone without knowing all the facts, I'll let the law enforcers do their job and stay away from the trial by social media.. |
| Elipton |
Yeah agree with Luna-C. Its something that should be kept private. I wrote last night that no one has the 'right' to know. What impact does it have on the people listening to his music? Even in the worat case scenario it shouldnt impact anyone in the public unless they take their kids to events.
Its a mission on behalf of some to destroy him and use him as a leg up for themselves.
I stil have no idea what the **** Ramos is still ripping chunks for. I dont think he has a solid handle on this situation at all.
But I dont think this should be something we should even know about let alone talk about... |
| DJ SCOTT DEVOTION |
quote:
Originally posted by ricHARDcore:
What I feel is happening is that some people are ruining this scene by thinking too much about them and what people think of them.
The thing is that "rave partys" are all about the crowd, the music and having fun. (not about you and yourself)
I know so many good guys who were implicated in the scene and who have disappear because they were sick of all of this bullying! Come on
What about hitting the "reset" button and starting all over? Anyway, my point is that we should stand together and help each others. The others, who don't wanna follow, they are the kind we are talking about here.
Imagine how others feel when reading all of this bashing! It makes me sick to see all those talented producers leaving or moving to other scenes!
I don't know so much about Sy's history. What I know is that he was an excellent producer and Dj not so long ago. So much talented. This guy have done a lot for Hardcore. That's the facts
The rest of the history is speculations as nobody have a real "proof" of it. (from what I read) If so, correct me!
I know he refuse to tell the truth but that's his choice. He will have to deal with the consequences now. So get over this and give this guy what he deserve. Respect for what he did for hardcore and have some reserve about his personal life. As Sc@r said, I'm pretty sure many people did worst things and nobody even notice.
We should start some label like: global Hardcore - Or - Reborn Hardcore - I would jump into some project like that and just let the others auto-destroy themselves instead of letting them destroy everything.
I love Happy/Uk hardcore... The old stuff.... Where people were authentic... music was diversify, every producer as his own identity. We can observe this in the new breed of hardcore artists, many times in other country than the UK... (and that's a shame as it come from the Uk)
Once again, sorry if I make mistakes as I speak french at home.
PLUR
Well said mate.
I also agree with Luna C and Elipton very much. This should have been kept behind closed doors and I feel this should not have been spurted out in the way it was. This was only going to cause more damage and arguments and whom had the right to spurt it out on public websites anyway.
To many loud mouth immature people at the so called top of the hardcore scene, grown men that should really grow up and have moved on anyway, just adding fuel to the fire, in order to gain some limelight.
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| Mitchie DJ |
yeah ramos has shown his true colours aswell slandering sy like he has, btw if you dont know ramos said hes quitting DJing after this weekend after what was beening said on chris unknowns facebook status in support of sy (oh yeah guess whos on the same line up as ramos this weekend... sy) this is all being dragged up again because of HTID having to cancel ravers choice because Sy was voted number 1 DJ by the ravers.
that must of been so embarrassing for storm and his goons to see, so now they are trying to remind us about the 'facts' that they cant prove... thats called being a contradict and giving hearsay evidence by the way.
Lets get behind Sy and show our support for an innocent man, if it means we lose bullies like ramos and afew other dinosaurs then so be it. |
| arpz |
The second children get involved (or are implied to be involved) people start becoming very irrational, often to the point of completely over-reacting.
It's like Jeremy Kyle on that Facebook update. |
| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
The second children get involved (or are implied to be involved) people start becoming very irrational, often to the point of completely over-reacting.
It's like Jeremy Kyle on that Facebook update.
It's mob justice unfortunately. |
| The Dopeman |
it's this kind of hate etc n the total knobends that make me stay out the way of this scene n just do my own thing been reading a few comments about it on fb and honestly makes me think there are some stupid people around not just in hardcore but in general it's got ****all to do with anyone on facebook so my opinion is they need to keep there ****ing mouth shut
i've just had to deal with an idiot who was abusing his dog n i'm still a bit pissed off (will be making a topic about that later to get your opinions and hopefully a bit of advice on how to deal with the situation) so won't say what i really think just incase people take it the wrong way |
| Gazza1712 |
It all blew up in October 2012 and sy played a hardcore heaven in fen 2013, obviously he would have already have had the booking in his diary before it all blew up and I'm guessing slammin decided with sys consent to do the crb check, now we don't know what came back from it but the fact sy played at hardcore heaven in fen. 2013 says all we need to know, and also I can see why he hasn't been booked since by hardcore heaven/slammin vinyl as he isn't making new music but you would have thought he'd have been booked for west fest to play In the old Skool arena wouldn't ya
Also in the ravers choice poll the funniest thing was that no mc/ mc free got voted as second in the mc catergory hahaha |
| DJ SCOTT DEVOTION |
quote:
Originally posted by The Dopeman:
it's this kind of hate etc n the total knobends that make me stay out the way of this scene n just do my own thing been reading a few comments about it on fb and honestly makes me think there are some stupid people around not just in hardcore but in general it's got ****all to do with anyone on facebook so my opinion is they need to keep there ****ing mouth shut
I have seen that face book page too. The person whom started this all off by feeling they needed to go public on a matter that should have been dealt with outside of the hardcore forum should be ashamed. Did he/they not feel that by putting up a post making people aware of it all before anything has been proven would only cause people to side up and end up causing arguments within the hardcore scene. What a bunch of ****ing idiots and ego chasing guys they are, these guys are well in the 30's prob too old for this scene anyway.
So many people have worked so hard within the scene for years doing a lot more for it back in the 90's only to see it end up like the piss pot scene it is now. I can see how it frustrates people.
|
| The Dopeman |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ SCOTT DEVOTION:
quote:
Originally posted by The Dopeman:
it's this kind of hate etc n the total knobends that make me stay out the way of this scene n just do my own thing been reading a few comments about it on fb and honestly makes me think there are some stupid people around not just in hardcore but in general it's got ****all to do with anyone on facebook so my opinion is they need to keep there ****ing mouth shut
I have seen that face book page too. The person whom started this all off by feeling they needed to go public on a matter that should have been dealt with outside of the hardcore forum should be ashamed. Did he/they not feel that by putting up a post making people aware of it all before anything has been proven would only cause people to side up and end up causing arguments within the hardcore scene. What a bunch of ****ing idiots and ego chasing guys they are, these guys are well in the 30's prob too old for this scene anyway.
So many people have worked so hard within the scene for years doing a lot more for it back in the 90's only to see it end up like the piss pot scene it is now. I can see how it frustrates people.
exactly i'll bet that was part of the reason scott brown quit production for a while you can tell he's not too happy about the state of things with what he's been saying on fb and nor would i if i was him he's the biggest name in the uk hardcore scene so people should take not of what he says imo without him uk hardcore would be nothing...to me at least |
| Ken Masters |
This is tragic, it really is. I can't believe this has been dug up once again & in the same old unprofessional approach.
Chris says he's constantly being hassled about the situation, well sorry but surely he knew that would be the case for the rest of his career wether he likes it or not. Its really unfortunate but this will hang over the both of them till its either properly cleaned up or they retire.
Atleast if he had actually put some of the accusations to bed & helped clear things up it may have helped end this sorry saga but all he's done is ask more questions & cast even more doubt over the whole farce, its a disgrace.
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| Sc@r |
quote:
Originally posted by Luna-C:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
Those days never existed. There was just no internet so the dicks were dicks in private, and the common goal was make good music rather than be king of the pond.
As for this whole thing? I think it unfair that anyone should expect Sy to "give evidence" to the general public - firstly because it was a private matter and should have remained so. Those who made it public are massively irresponsible. And secondly, as Sy well knows, it would do no good. He would have to defend himself forever repeatedly. If he came on here and uploaded some proof or whatever, in 3 months time the same accusation would be made on a different site.
I hardly know Sy, but I like him because he has always dealt reasonably with me. I don't know Unknown as all, but I have no animosity towards him either. What I am saying is I have no dog in this fight Syhe had done something terrible, he would be in jail. If the police raided his house, you know they would have wanted to be able to convict - and if they did not, its because they could not. So I feel the worst he did was get caught with images that anyone who has ever looked at porn online has seen. This makes me think he was just very unlucky.
Even worst luck was having some of the "friends" he had.
When this originally blew up, I wrote a thing defending Sy, and I sent it to him to make sure it was okay if I posted it. Thats what adults do - discuss private matters privately. He did not want me to post it because he hoped it would all die down and go away.
I am dismayed (but sadly not surprised) that certain people in the scene thought it would be okay to just blurt out such damaging stuff. A mans career has been irrevocably damaged by rumour and idiocy. Since it happened, I have avoided those people like the plague. They are not to be trusted because they have shown they have neither the ability or the desire to act like mature adults.
Well written Chris!
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| Elliott |
What's frustrating to me is that I wouldn't care even if he was "guilty" of whatever he allegedly did.
I find the irrational behaviour that followed from everyone else fascinating but I've never had any interest in whether or not Sy did whatever it is he supposedly did.
If I had to like and agree with every artists' actions in order to enjoy their music, the list of people I could listen to would be very short indeed. In an extreme example, if I was a Lostprophets fan (I wasn't, they sucked), I'd still listen to their music now. I always thought their music was for kids, turns out I was right. |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
What's frustrating to me is that I wouldn't care even if he was "guilty" of whatever he allegedly did.
I find the irrational behaviour that followed from everyone else fascinating but I've never had any interest in whether or not Sy did whatever it is he supposedly did.
If I had to like and agree with every artists' actions in order to enjoy their music, the list of people I could listen to would be very short indeed. In an extreme example, if I was a Lostprophets fan (I wasn't, they sucked), I'd still listen to their music now. I always thought their music was for kids, turns out I was right.
When I heard Will Smith was an Scientology member, I actually stopped watching his movies. Somehow it didnt stop me from watching Tom Cruise tho :P |
| Elipton |
Is anyone else still keeping tabs on the status? Some of the comments about Storm are shocking |
| djDMS |
'kin hell!
It's all becoming rather uncomfortable reading. |
| The Dopeman |
it certainly made for some intresting bedtime reading
i'll say it again there are a lot of stupid people around that need to stfu
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| whispering |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
Is anyone else still keeping tabs on the status? Some of the comments about Storm are shocking
What comments? copy/paste it here? |
| _Jay_ |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
Is anyone else still keeping tabs on the status? Some of the comments about Storm are shocking
What comments? Copy/paste it here?
As well as taking the piss out of Whispering's double-post, I would actually quite like to know which comments you mean. I haven't been keeping up with it on facebook at all - only on here.
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| GrahamC |
Dave Da Raveman Done some digging today, results are quite revealing, if they are 100% true. So the story goes, Sy wins ravers choice, HTID are put in a position where they would have to ask Sy to play. Along comes our super hero, the voice of hardcore and tells HTID that if they book Sy , He will never play for them again. So do HTID grow a pair of balls, do they ****. They cancel the planned event on very mickey mouse grounds. And the voice of hardcore does it again and drags all this up. Chris then gets pressure put on him (Bullied) no doubt , that if he wishes to stay part of this exclusive club, he musty put out a statement regarding Sy. Again from the shadows the voice of hardcore is pulling strings. A few dj' have made it known that they will not appear on the same line up as Sy. Trying to put pressure on promoters. So far some of these promoters have stood up to these outfukkingrageous demands and have not given in. I am one of those promoters that will stand side by side with Sy Quosh because no ****er will ever tell me who I can and cannot book to play my events. Now lets look at the facts. Sy has put his hands up to a misdemeanour,If it was ANYTHING else he would have been in Crown Court. Because of the way society is now, call it the jimmy saville effect. You only have to look in the papers to see who is up in court for various serious accusations. People on here are saying I dont want my kids being around a pedo. Well what the **** , Sy is not a pedo, he and the justice system have proven that. Now lets look at the impeccable record of the voice of hardcore. This upstanding morally correct individual has done jail for "Street Robbery". Now I dont know for sure but I think it would be very unlikely if he had gone to jail for a 1st offence unless it was very serious or he had a criminal past. Im just using supersicion here and I maybe be wrong. Prehaps he had a shit judge?. Who knows. The same people know doubt that know the true facts about Sy. Personally I would sooner be around a person with a caution than a convicted street robber. So FCUK YOU MR VOICE OF FUKKING HARDCORE. You are a prize shit stirring CU*T |
| wong |
Storms a woman beating street robber |
| GrahamC |
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody? |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by DJ SCOTT DEVOTION:
quote:
Originally posted by The Dopeman:
it's this kind of hate etc n the total knobends that make me stay out the way of this scene n just do my own thing been reading a few comments about it on fb and honestly makes me think there are some stupid people around not just in hardcore but in general it's got ****all to do with anyone on facebook so my opinion is they need to keep there ****ing mouth shut
I have seen that face book page too. The person whom started this all off by feeling they needed to go public on a matter that should have been dealt with outside of the hardcore forum should be ashamed. Did he/they not feel that by putting up a post making people aware of it all before anything has been proven would only cause people to side up and end up causing arguments within the hardcore scene. What a bunch of ****ing idiots and ego chasing guys they are, these guys are well in the 30's prob too old for this scene anyway.
So many people have worked so hard within the scene for years doing a lot more for it back in the 90's only to see it end up like the piss pot scene it is now. I can see how it frustrates people.
so basically ur sayin its my fault as I started this thread?
|
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody?
has Storm actually been done for it tho? and beating ans sexual offences are nothing alike |
| Luna-C |
As Storm feels its fine to condemn someone based on opinion, aren't others entitled to condemn him based on the same?
|
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody?
has Storm actually been done for it tho? and beating ans sexual offences are nothing alike
Assault on a women is assault on a woman however you look at it I think.
This Dave Da Raveman says Storm has been jailed for Street Robbery (mugging? |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody?
has Storm actually been done for it tho? and beating ans sexual offences are nothing alike
Assault on a women is assault on a woman however you look at it I think.
This Dave Da Raveman says Storm has been jailed for Street Robbery (mugging?
if thats the case it would probably been in a local paper (as with sy seen as some think its a massive case) someone should do some diggin and expose storm if this is all true..... together we should be able to end his career..... just like sys has been totally trashed... |
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody?
has Storm actually been done for it tho? and beating ans sexual offences are nothing alike
Assault on a women is assault on a woman however you look at it I think.
This Dave Da Raveman says Storm has been jailed for Street Robbery (mugging?
if thats the case it would probably been in a local paper (as with sy seen as some think its a massive case) someone should do some diggin and expose storm if this is all true..... together we should be able to end his career..... just like sys has been totally trashed...
I'd like to think so. However, the 'voice of hardcore' is not gonna go down easy... |
| Kebab Head |
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamC:
To me beating women is equal to sexual offenses and there sounds like there is actually proof!
Should they keep employing Carl? What if he flips, leaps into the crowd, lassie-bashes and robs somebody?
has Storm actually been done for it tho? and beating ans sexual offences are nothing alike
Assault on a women is assault on a woman however you look at it I think.
This Dave Da Raveman says Storm has been jailed for Street Robbery (mugging?
if thats the case it would probably been in a local paper (as with sy seen as some think its a massive case) someone should do some diggin and expose storm if this is all true..... together we should be able to end his career..... just like sys has been totally trashed...
I'd like to think so. However, the 'voice of hardcore' is not gonna go down easy...
if hes a known mugger then..... maybe ur right... hes licked too much arse...
whats his full name? i can never spell his last name right |
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
whats his full name? i can never spell his last name right
Carl Billsborough |
| Gazza1712 |
Someone on that thread also said that storm knobbed a 15 year old at the hardcore heaven weekender 2008 and he's a bit of a sex pest! |
| versia |
nvm lol |
| DJ SCOTT DEVOTION |
quote:
Originally posted by Kebab Head:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ SCOTT DEVOTION:
quote:
Originally posted by The Dopeman:
it's this kind of hate etc n the total knobends that make me stay out the way of this scene n just do my own thing been reading a few comments about it on fb and honestly makes me think there are some stupid people around not just in hardcore but in general it's got ****all to do with anyone on facebook so my opinion is they need to keep there ****ing mouth shut
I have seen that face book page too. The person whom started this all off by feeling they needed to go public on a matter that should have been dealt with outside of the hardcore forum should be ashamed. Did he/they not feel that by putting up a post making people aware of it all before anything has been proven would only cause people to side up and end up causing arguments within the hardcore scene. What a bunch of ****ing idiots and ego chasing guys they are, these guys are well in the 30's prob too old for this scene anyway.
So many people have worked so hard within the scene for years doing a lot more for it back in the 90's only to see it end up like the piss pot scene it is now. I can see how it frustrates people.
so basically ur sayin its my fault as I started this thread?
No mate, NOT you Kebab Head, I mean MC Storm, for feeling the need to put up a statement at the very start of this mess and as I said he went public at the very start and it was wrong imo.
He should not have gone about it the way he did, now people are arguing with each other, it is making devides and also bad air between people and is only bad for the scene. For someone whom is meant to care about the scene, this was a very stupid way to go about things, along with some of the other idiots around him.
I also agree with Luna C, that if Storm feels it is fine to condemn someone based on opinion, aren't others entitled to condemn him based on the same. Yes, if this is the way he wants to play it then what does he expect now. |
| Elipton |
quote:
Originally posted by Luna-C:
As Storm feels its fine to condemn someone based on opinion, aren't others entitled to condemn him based on the same?
Sounds to me like there's a little more meat on this bone than just opinion. |
| Ken Masters |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
Originally posted by Luna-C:
As Storm feels its fine to condemn someone based on opinion, aren't others entitled to condemn him based on the same?
Sounds to me like there's a little more meat on this bone than just opinion.
Yes, but what also looks like absolutely no evidence to back it up. If there is evidence but they feel it best to beat around the bush then all they'll do is cause more damage to themselves & Sy.
20 year partnership & they don't even have the decency to sit down & attempt to sort this out. I can completely understand their concerns but this is hardly the way to handle things. |
| Elliott |
Storm always seems like a massive pikey. Wouldn't surprise me if that stuff was true. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
What's frustrating to me is that I wouldn't care even if he was "guilty" of whatever he allegedly did.
I find the irrational behaviour that followed from everyone else fascinating but I've never had any interest in whether or not Sy did whatever it is he supposedly did.
If I had to like and agree with every artists' actions in order to enjoy their music, the list of people I could listen to would be very short indeed. In an extreme example, if I was a Lostprophets fan (I wasn't, they sucked), I'd still listen to their music now. I always thought their music was for kids, turns out I was right.
When I heard Will Smith was an Scientology member, I actually stopped watching his movies. Somehow it didnt stop me from watching Tom Cruise tho :P
Will Smith's a scientologist? Goddamn, they have impressive mainstream appeal for a cult.
|
| Captain Triceps |
Just proves what a bunch of fucking weapons they all are. |
| ricHARDcore |
Here, we have an expression that apply here and that I'll try to traduct in English:
- When you spit in the air (up), It will go down in your face
or (cause I'm not sure)
- Spit in the wind and it will get to your face.
or we could say
- Karma
- You get what you give...
I think that it always happen, sometimes, it can be very very long but you will eventually have it back one way or another. You always have the choice so don't do to others things that you don't want them to do to you. ;)
|
| Dys7 |
Perfect ad placement.
 |
| Ken Masters |
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
Perfect ad placement.
They're watching. They're always watching... |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
Perfect ad placement.
They're watching. They're always watching...
Yeah, the top advert the other day was for CRB checks. I wonder what the most bizarre advert we could bring up is just from talking nonsense about it? |
| djDMS |
My next topic will be about loads of sex starved birds with big knockers visiting my house! |
| Mortis |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
My next topic will be about loads of sex starved birds with big knockers visiting my house!
 |
| Elipton |
You lot need AdBlock! |
| djDMS |
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
My next topic will be about loads of sex starved birds with big knockers visiting my house!
Hahaha! 3 things i definitely need! |
| ricHARDcore |
I'm not a scientologist if that is what you meant.
Sorry if this looked like that.
In fact, I believe in hardcore and nothing else. |
| Samination |
no, the ads are generated based on a few key words on each page, so it has nothing to do what you're into or not. Well except for DjDMS
Also, saw this on 9gag
 |
| Dys7 |
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
You lot need AdBlock!
I disable adblock on a few choice sites I want to support that don't have annoying ads. This site is one of them |
| Hard2Get |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
Storm always seems like a massive pikey. Wouldn't surprise me if that stuff was true.
Like a lot of people in the scene. |
| Lilley |
quote:
? Why the ?minor? offence he claimed he had committed required his home and the studio to be dawn raided in 2007 by police?
Because that's what police do.
? Why he had a travel ban to certain countries?
Because that's what other countries do.
**** this ********. |
| Kebab Head |
haha i posted a pic the other day about crb as we was talking about it lol how starnge theses ads come up depending whats being talked about |
| fakka13k |
Has Storm suffered any backlash for this? |
| GrahamC |
quote:
Originally posted by fakka13k:
Has Storm suffered any backlash for this?
Behave! The 'voice of hardcore' is untouchable! As long as the club, 'podge of hardcore' - Hixxy, 'bald tw@t of hardcore' - Breeze, 'boyband member of hardcore' - Styles are around then nothing is going to happen to the top tier! |
| BT5 |
:/ |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by BT5:
:/
says the drug addict |
| Elipton |
I'm surprised padded cells have wifi.
What a waste of his monthly allocation of internet. |
| latininxtc |
BT5 where did you find this??? I've looked on his account and don't see it anywhere. |
| wong |
f*ckin hell here we go again |
| The drunken scotsman |
yawn. He's been told by police not to speak about it so he does the sensible thing and takes to facebook. What an utter bellend of a man. |
| BT6 |
quote:
BT5 where did you find this??? I've looked on his account and don't see it anywhere.
sorry my account seems to have been blocked?
it was a reply on facebook to a girl who posted a vid of sy from htid on sat just passed |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
yawn. He's been told by police not to speak about it so he does the sensible thing and takes to facebook. What an utter bellend of a man.
This is literally the exact post I was just about to make!
I agree completely. |
| fakka13k |
Would HU put Sy on an upcoming album? |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by fakka13k:
Would HU put Sy on an upcoming album?
Probably not. The way Jon describes it everything they do it's like walking on eggshells, even though other labels do the exact same thing and no one ever says a word about it.
I think they're fine without booking him they've always got a smashing lineup that's diverse enough to satisfy all fans of UK hardcore. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
yawn. He's been told by police not to speak about it so he does the sensible thing and takes to facebook. What an utter bellend of a man.
This is literally the exact post I was just about to make!
I agree completely.
Yep back to the mental home for Wayne. People like him need to learn to keep their mouth shut. Absolutely no need for his bitter sounding post. |
| Vladel |
If it was serious or there was sufficient evidence, he would have been charged and convicted, not cautioned. It seems to me that the people that were quick to backstab Sy are making the most noise to justify their ill thought actions that they probably regret. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
If it was serious or there was sufficient evidence, he would have been charged and convicted, not cautioned. It seems to me that the people that were quick to backstab Sy are making the most noise to justify their ill thought actions that they probably regret.
This.
What I've thought for a long time. If what he done was so serious he'd have been banged up. As it happens he's been djing around the UK practically every weekend with no notable periods of absense. Squad-e, storm, Keyes etc all need to just **** off back under the rock they came from - scum. |
| djDMS |
He did say there in the middle of the amazing rant that there WAS a conviction.
BUT from what i know, data protection doesn't guarantee anonymity for convicted crminals (particularly for sex offenders I would have thought).
Just confuses the situation even more. |
| wong |
no confusion, he's just talking bollocks |
| Captain Triceps |
quote:
Originally posted by wong:
no confusion, he's just talking bollocks
Is the post still on Facebook? What kind of reaction did it get from people? |
| wong |
couldn't find it myself |
| latininxtc |
Y'all probably are never going to find it unless you find the girl that he was responding to. As the original poster mentioned, it was a reply to a video that she put up a recent Sy gig. So if she has her setting put up that only her friends can view her posts, you have to at least be friends with that girl in order to view it. It won't even appear on that ticker timeline or whatever it's called, as I went back by 3 hours just to see if that activity showed up since for some ungodly reason I still am friends with Squad-E.
Although it is useful to be facebook friends with someone so far detached from reality, makes for some interesting reads sometimes :) |
| Captain Triceps |
Is it possible, at all, that the image was doctored? I would have thought a comment like that would have had a bit of a backlash to say the least, you know what Facebook folk are like. |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
Is it possible, at all, that the image was doctored? I would have thought a comment like that would have had a bit of a backlash to say the least, you know what Facebook folk are like.
easiest way would be to see how it's written? I always thought he would have written like a bellend (like UFO and Ramos), but I havent seen his writtings so i wouldnt know |
| dannothemanno89 |
This most recent explosion aside, is the word of sy's ex girlfriend really anything to go by anyway, because from what I make of it that's pretty much all its on the strength off, and of course, ex partners are really reliable sources of legit info aren't they...
Nothing but sour grapes if you ask me because sy smashed it at htid megarave and he's jealous, plus, and I know this is probably just a rumour, the reason for squad-es absence for a while up until quite recently is due to him allegedly being in rehab for crack addiction. |
| Vladel |
It disgusts me that squad-e made my favourite hardcore track of all time (lost without you) the guy is utterly deluded |
| Mickey Init |
The whole thing is mind-boggling... There's definitely a lot of Confusion Girl. |
| Mickey Init |
Squad-E's part of GTYM now isn't he? |
| dannothemanno89 |
Agreed, all I hear is la la la. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Agreed, all I hear is la la la.
Personally, I think the whole thing with Sy Doesn't Matter.
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| dannothemanno89 |
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
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Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Agreed, all I hear is la la la.
Personally, I think the whole thing with Sy Doesn't Matter.
Wholeheartedly agree, just a glance in my direction would be enough to tell as much.
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| Mickey Init |
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Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
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Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Agreed, all I hear is la la la.
Personally, I think the whole thing with Sy Doesn't Matter.
Wholeheartedly agree, just a glance in my direction would be enough to tell as much.
By the sounds of that Facebook post it doesn't seem as though Squad-E's recovered from the whole situation yet. I think he's Still Healing.
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| Claxton |
I think his time in the Promised Land of Hardcore has well gone. That much was clear as soon as Hixxy disbanded Raver Baby and ended the Magic Carpet Ride! |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by Claxton:
I think his time in the Promised Land of Hardcore has well gone. That much was clear as soon as Hixxy disbanded Raver Baby and ended the Magic Carpet Ride!
This is very true. It's now time for him to Be Quiet.
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| dannothemanno89 |
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
I dunno... Some Hardcore Mother Fcuker.
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| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
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| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
Isn't it amusing that the guy who is accused of being a pedophile comes out looking good in all this mess and his accusers (Ramos, Squad-E, Unknown, MC Storm & MC Keyes) come out looking far worse? |
| Vladel |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
Isn't it amusing that the guy who is accused of being a pedophile comes out looking good in all this mess and his accusers (Ramos, Squad-E, Unknown, MC Storm & MC Keyes) come out looking far worse?
That's because they are all twats
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| Elipton |
This is a lesson for all of us. Don't get desperate with your age range on Tinder!! |
| djDMS |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
Isn't it amusing that the guy who is accused of being a pedophile comes out looking good in all this mess and his accusers (Ramos, Squad-E, Unknown, MC Storm & MC Keyes) come out looking far worse?
Wouldn't be that amusing if it IS true. But yes, they're still acting like twats |
| latininxtc |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
Isn't it amusing that the guy who is accused of being a pedophile comes out looking good in all this mess and his accusers (Ramos, Squad-E, Unknown, MC Storm & MC Keyes) come out looking far worse?
Wouldn't be that amusing if it IS true. But yes, they're still acting like twats
it would be pretty amusing. Still wouldn't change the fact all those mentioned are a piece of shit for the way they mishandled this whole situation, and talent wise on some level too. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Joking aside, who's word have we really got on any of this?
An ex partners account told to a now new partner who doesn't seem to have he tightest grasp on reality, a loud mouthed former legend but in all honesty a past it MC, and GTYMs head honcho, I don't regard Keyes as an MC purely because of the fact he is f---ing terrible at it.
I think, of all involved, Sy was the only one to rationalise in his statement. Everyone else has been a bit aimless.
Isn't it amusing that the guy who is accused of being a pedophile comes out looking good in all this mess and his accusers (Ramos, Squad-E, Unknown, MC Storm & MC Keyes) come out looking far worse?
Wouldn't be that amusing if it IS true. But yes, they're still acting like twats
it would be pretty amusing. Still wouldn't change the fact all those mentioned are a piece of shit for the way they mishandled this whole situation, and talent wise on some level too.
Sy literally has more talent in his finger than all of them put together. That's what gets on my nerves the most. They've banished Sy from the scene whilst they carry on singing nursery rhymes and making/playing shite tunes every weekend. I have some sympathy for unknown as I don't believe he was part of any witch hunt but the rest of them can gtf.
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| BT6 |
the post is by thereze wright |
| latininxtc |
Well I don't see the post about Sy anywhere, and she very well could have deleted it too. She must have been referring to Sy's set for HTID Megarave as she's posted a few pics and video clips of the event in her timeline. |
| Mickey Init |
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
Well I don't see the post about Sy anywhere, and she very well could have deleted it too. She must have been referring to Sy's set for HTID Megarave as she's posted a few pics and video clips of the event in her timeline.
Does this Thereze Wright seem 18yo? Imagine the irony if Squad-E is Facebook-stalking or Facebook friends with her if she's not. (How else would he see her post?)
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| dannothemanno89 |
Going back to squad-es outburst.
"We were told not to talk of this" he talked.
"How much Surveillance needs to be gathered before raiding" not a lot, loads of people get raided and wrongly accused.
"I've lost my idol in all this" great way to idolise someone eh, start boffing his ex bird, believe her crap then destroy his career, classic vindictive behaviour, turn new bloke against ex bloke, totally obvious. |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by dannothemanno89:
Going back to squad-es outburst.
"We were told not to talk of this" he talked.
"How much Surveillance needs to be gathered before raiding" not a lot, loads of people get raided and wrongly accused.
"I've lost my idol in all this" great way to idolise someone eh, start boffing his ex bird, believe her crap then destroy his career, classic vindictive behaviour, turn new bloke against ex bloke, totally obvious.
Spot on. The fact that he or anyone else in 'the scene' can't prove that Sy is guilty of anything more than topless pics of 16 year olds is enough reason for them to shut their fcuking mouths and stop embarrassing themselves. |
| Elliott |
I'll never give up hope of Sy returning to production.
Sy, if you're reading this (I know some of the top tier sometimes do read HH.com), most of us here have been behind you since day 1 and will continue to wait for evidence before assuming guilt. Man up and start making music again ffs. :@ |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
It disgusts me that squad-e made my favourite hardcore track of all time (lost without you) the guy is utterly deluded
Big tune tho
The guy certainly knew how to write a banger when he put his mind to it. |
| Samination |
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
It disgusts me that squad-e made my favourite hardcore track of all time (lost without you) the guy is utterly deluded
Big tune tho
The guy certainly knew how to write a banger when he put his mind to it.
Or when he was mental? :P |
| Gazza1712 |
Sy won't return to producing, chris done 90 per cent of the work, not sure if sy could actually produce an original track by himself |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Sy won't return to producing, chris done 90 per cent of the work, not sure if sy could actually produce an original track by himself
That's laughable to be honest. Maybe chris did do 90% of the work but the 10% that Sy contributed was obviously the difference between a shite/mediocre track and an excellent track. Chris' solo work is at best boring. |
| HollowRipper |
I'm friends with Thereze, she lives up my way, runs Elevation. Her and Squad e's missus are really good friends, in fact squad e and sarah are the godparents of one of her kids!
That's the reason he went off like he did. Still a load of ******** though! |
| Vladel |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Sy won't return to producing, chris done 90 per cent of the work, not sure if sy could actually produce an original track by himself
That's laughable to be honest. Maybe chris did do 90% of the work but the 10% that Sy contributed was obviously the difference between a shite/mediocre track and an excellent track. Chris' solo work is at best boring.
Its been painful to watch unknown slowly destroy his musical reputation |
| The drunken scotsman |
quote:
Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I'm friends with Thereze, she lives up my way, runs Elevation. Her and Squad e's missus are really good friends, in fact squad e and sarah are the godparents of one of her kids!
That's the reason he went off like he did. Still a load of ******** though!
Makes squad-e look even more of a cock. If he knows her so well why does he have to spout that nonsense on facebook. Surely a phonecall wouldve been the sensible option. |
| DJ Reevzy |
Unknowns tunes are bloody boring so i can only assume sy was the main drivin force in writing some bangers (excuse the pun)!
Sy is a ledge and the scene needs his tunes and him behind the decks...simples! |
| Vladel |
i couldn't help but notice when the electro/dubcore came about, Sy & Unknown tracks seemed to stay out of it. It was interesting as most of the top tier had all opted for change and when the Sy stuff blew up and Unknown went off on his own, he seemingly went straight for the electro/ducore. Perhaps it was Sy who kept them out of that dreadful sound or maybe unknown thought it was safer. Either way the guys music went down the pan pretty quickly.
In fact he sounds like a cheap styles/gammer knock off. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
i couldn't help but notice when the electro/dubcore came about, Sy & Unknown tracks seemed to stay out of it. It was interesting as most of the top tier had all opted for change and when the Sy stuff blew up and Unknown went off on his own, he seemingly went straight for the electro/ducore. Perhaps it was Sy who kept them out of that dreadful sound or maybe unknown thought it was safer. Either way the guys music went down the pan pretty quickly.
In fact he sounds like a cheap styles/gammer knock off.
Interesting observation.
You're right though, I loved Sy & Unknown for staying straight as an arrow and basically producing what they wanted, regardless of what was coming out at the time (I also love Technikore for the same reason). I can't help agreeing that it seems like Sy was the one keeping them on the right track. |
| Craigavon raver |
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Gazza1712:
Sy won't return to producing, chris done 90 per cent of the work, not sure if sy could actually produce an original track by himself
That's laughable to be honest. Maybe chris did do 90% of the work but the 10% that Sy contributed was obviously the difference between a shite/mediocre track and an excellent track. Chris' solo work is at best boring.
Well I know sy can't engineer, but i'm sure he could write a track and get someone to engineer it for him, or he could start producing again with other people, i'm sure theres lots of producers in the scene who would still quite happily make tunes with him, like al storm for example |
| OCTni |
Having read every single comment on this thread and the statements of SY, UNKNOWN, MC STORM and SQUAD-E. The only person that seems to have had any sort of dignity in relation to this matter is SY. I personally was put in a very similar situation to Chris Unknown back in early 2007 when a work mate that house shared with me hid a deep secret. He didn't tell me, two plain clothes cops came to my door and told me and then dragged the c**t out of bed and downstairs to tell me face to face that he was a convicted sex offender and was put on the register. The same fate would have happened with the families of MC STORM, CHRIS UNKNOWN, SQUAD-E and whoever was close to SY in both personal and working relationships. That's the way it works because the Police have an obligation to protect the public and make people aware that known offenders of that kind are around them in their lives on more than a daily basis, for the record I moved straight out as the Police didn't want to have to relocate the individual.
Its obvious to me that SQUAD-E developed an insane bout of inner rage when he seen the clips of SY getting a great reception at HTID the other week not only because he thought he'd seen the last of him playing at the top of any bill but also due to the fact that he's bed sharing with SY's ex..! For these sad fools to make statements like they have, they seem very dishonest and utterly clueless in how the process of identifying a sex offender works. It seems to me that SY has made an innocent mistake and has been given a "heads up" and a "watch yourself" from the Police and MC STORM has seen this as his opportunity to remove the teacher who made him the star pupil in the class, after all SY was the scenes most entertaining DJ with SCOTT BROWN being the best Producer. You can tell CHRIS UNKNOWN has been pressured into making that statement and has been warned off by Hardcores "Board of Governors" to stay away from SY. The whole thing is very sickening to read and digest. I hope SY has a change of heart and returns to the scene full force and sticks those two fingers he uses on his left hand to scratch, rite up to those who have made it their goal to destroy him. |
| Elliott |
quote:
Originally posted by OCTni:
Having read every single comment on this thread and the statements of SY, UNKNOWN, MC STORM and SQUAD-E. The only person that seems to have had any sort of dignity in relation to this matter is SY. I personally was put in a very similar situation to Chris Unknown back in early 2007 when a work mate that house shared with me hid a deep secret. He didn't tell me, two plain clothes cops came to my door and told me and then dragged the c**t out of bed and downstairs to tell me face to face that he was a convicted sex offender and was put on the register. The same fate would have happened with the families of MC STORM, CHRIS UNKNOWN, SQUAD-E and whoever was close to SY in both personal and working relationships. That's the way it works because the Police have an obligation to protect the public and make people aware that known offenders of that kind are around them in their lives on more than a daily basis, for the record I moved straight out as the Police didn't want to have to relocate the individual.
Its obvious to me that SQUAD-E developed an insane bout of inner rage when he seen the clips of SY getting a great reception at HTID the other week not only because he thought he'd seen the last of him playing at the top of any bill but also due to the fact that he's bed sharing with SY's ex..! For these sad fools to make statements like they have, they seem very dishonest and utterly clueless in how the process of identifying a sex offender works. It seems to me that SY has made an innocent mistake and has been given a "heads up" and a "watch yourself" from the Police and MC STORM has seen this as his opportunity to remove the teacher who made him the star pupil in the class, after all SY was the scenes most entertaining DJ with SCOTT BROWN being the best Producer. You can tell CHRIS UNKNOWN has been pressured into making that statement and has been warned off by Hardcores "Board of Governors" to stay away from SY. The whole thing is very sickening to read and digest. I hope SY has a change of heart and returns to the scene full force and sticks those two fingers he uses on his left hand to scratch, rite up to those who have made it their goal to destroy him.
Well said and interesting story. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this were true.
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| dannothemanno89 |
This ******** subject is still rearing its ugly head, sy was booked at an event about an hour away from me in Great Yarmouth and I thought spot on, they've now retracted the booking due to new info that they've been made aware of apparently.
**** off, it's not 2012 anymore! |
| Vladel |
I guess from Unknowns point of view that over the years he may have been badly overlooked. I read on a cd insert somewhere Sy thanking Unknown for teaching him to mix (can't remember how it was worded). Couple that with the rumors that Chris did all the work on their collabs yet Sy is thebig megastar with Unknown seeming more like a sidekick and you have all the makings for some seriously bad feelings. Then this all kicks off and still most people stand by Sy and Unknowns solo efforts have been for the most part dreadful. |
| Elipton |
Has all of this escalated from Unknown being butthurt? |
| dannothemanno89 |
It all started when sy split up with his missus, Sarah I think her name is and she then got with squad-e, she's obviously told tales to the new bf about the old bf and that was the start, then storm and Keyes waded in and spread it like wildfire all over social media at the end of 2012, then it all seemingly died right down and wasn't spoke of again, until well over a year later when unknown then made his statement about it all which sparked it off again, although I believe the fact that HTID are booking him again now since the artists who started it buggered off to gtym speaks volumes. |
