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Ravine
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Posted - 2006/11/06 :  23:09:45  Show profile Send a private message  Visit Ravine's homepage
What are your thoughts. Personally i think it is hardcore because it's the even HARDER version of hard house and hard dance. Sometimes a bit of hard trance. enVias doesn't think so though.

So what are your thoughts?


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No, you don't get iced buns, scones and a nice cup of tea in Hardcore, whereas you do in Hardstyle

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Hardstyle is boring... ...

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Posted - 2006/11/07 :  04:53:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ravine's homepage
But the hard bass kicks it in your face...HARD!!!

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I find hardstyle is slow and not really interesting... prefer jumpstyle or hard trance to be honest... i'd agree that its a branch of hardcore... just not one i'm personally a fan of

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It does borrow from hardcore but it isn't a type of hardcore no.

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No, it's not Hardcore. Although, these days it's sounding more and more like it, which I find a shame as I think Hardstyle has lost it's originality a bit.

People are beginning to miss the old style sound with reverse basses etc and the sound has changed a lot since the name came about around 2000, but I suppose things have to progress. At least we can all still appreciate the classic Hardstyle tracks from a few years back.

I still love most aspects of Hardstyle nowadays, and of course the old sound too.


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It's a hardtrance derivate, if I'm not mistaken.

guess some idiot decided he'd pull his bass through a noisegate and go steal old gabber samples and melodies and invent himself a new style for delussional ppl who wanna pretend they're hard shit but couldn't last an hour at a rave with real hard music.

...

you may have noticed... I don't like hardstyle all that much.


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'Is Hardstyle HardCore?'

Well aint that the most retarded thing i have ever seen strung together, Hardstyle is Hardstyle Hardcore is Hardcore.. the in sertain ways are alike but have different tittles there for making them different also the Producing styles Speeds tones and various other asspects of each Style are different.

So in my eyes No they in no way relate to each other and in no way should be used in the same sentance.




Final thought = lol.


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quote:
Originally posted by Knightmare:
It's a hardtrance derivate, if I'm not mistaken.

guess some idiot decided he'd pull his bass through a noisegate and go steal old gabber samples and melodies and invent himself a new style for delussional ppl who wanna pretend they're hard shit but couldn't last an hour at a rave with real hard music.

...

you may have noticed... I don't like hardstyle all that much.



Not all Hardstylers are delussional, kinda narrow minded view there dude, I listen to Hardstyle, but I also listen to harder stuff too, but that's not important, it's about the music and not a competition of whats harder etc.



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quote:
Originally posted by capone13:
quote:
Originally posted by Knightmare:
It's a hardtrance derivate, if I'm not mistaken.

guess some idiot decided he'd pull his bass through a noisegate and go steal old gabber samples and melodies and invent himself a new style for delussional ppl who wanna pretend they're hard shit but couldn't last an hour at a rave with real hard music.

...

you may have noticed... I don't like hardstyle all that much.



Not all Hardstylers are delussional, kinda narrow minded view there dude, I listen to Hardstyle, but I also listen to harder stuff too, but that's not important, it's about the music and not a competition of whats harder etc.





yeah, I know i shouldn't generalise but all the ppl I've met who actually like hardstyle are stuck-up little *******s who keep dissing hardcore but can't stop blabbing about how hard the latest track of this ****up or that idiot is...

Hell, I've heard a few hardstyle tracks I like myself (2, to be exact) but a lot of the releases are simply perversions of tracks from the 90's and those ppl treat it like hardstyle is the best invention since hot friggin' water and sliced bread!

it just frustrates me immencely...



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quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
No, you don't get iced buns, scones and a nice cup of tea in Hardcore, whereas you do in Hardstyle



Or the Okey cokey!


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I can see the advert for it now.....Some women in her fifties making a cup of tea, takes it and places it on the table with her friends around, offers them a chocolate eclair....then walks over to the MASSIVE sound system, and presses play and hardstyle comes blasting out! Closing scene, all these old biddies stomping round the kitchen table, waiting for the breakdown..........

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quote:
Originally posted by Knightmare:
quote:
Originally posted by capone13:
quote:
Originally posted by Knightmare:
It's a hardtrance derivate, if I'm not mistaken.

guess some idiot decided he'd pull his bass through a noisegate and go steal old gabber samples and melodies and invent himself a new style for delussional ppl who wanna pretend they're hard shit but couldn't last an hour at a rave with real hard music.

...

you may have noticed... I don't like hardstyle all that much.



Not all Hardstylers are delussional, kinda narrow minded view there dude, I listen to Hardstyle, but I also listen to harder stuff too, but that's not important, it's about the music and not a competition of whats harder etc.





yeah, I know i shouldn't generalise but all the ppl I've met who actually like hardstyle are stuck-up little *******s who keep dissing hardcore but can't stop blabbing about how hard the latest track of this ****up or that idiot is...

Hell, I've heard a few hardstyle tracks I like myself (2, to be exact) but a lot of the releases are simply perversions of tracks from the 90's and those ppl treat it like hardstyle is the best invention since hot friggin' water and sliced bread!

it just frustrates me immencely...





Yeah dude, I see where you're coming from now, you get people like that in every genre though, just the way it is.



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Posted - 2006/11/08 :  12:26:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ravine's homepage
I notice that too but i find it more prevalent with hardstyle and gabber...

I love all styles though =)




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I think we have been led away from the main topic some where :P

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