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DJ-SK8
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 Posted - 2002/10/20 : 18:05:18
I don't like the hole idea of there being TV adds for Bonkers 9, espehsly because of the fact that, everyones so concerned about keeping hardcore underground, well tv adds don't sound vary underground to me!!!=-(
My god how long have those mice been living your back fat?!?!?!
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strychnine
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 Posted - 2002/10/21 : 01:57:04
honestly, i live in a world where 10000+ hardcore parties are a reality. how underground could it possibly be?
answer: IMO it'll *always* be underground to some extent. hhc is just too far removed from the mainstream genres (in speed if nothing else) to really make it big.
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pacman
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Posted - 2002/10/21 : 14:49:29
hahahaha dj-sk8 you've been missing out on these arguments we have pretty much daily now on this board.
i got nothing really to say, but that it's spelt commercials. or ads (short for advertisements) 
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/21 : 16:34:39
^^ shouldn't you be studying?
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DJSuperb
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Posted - 2002/10/22 : 13:08:16
Doesn't the fact that you can go into your loacal HMV and buy a hardcore CD show you how much hardcore ISN'T underground and it hasn't been since the very early 90's. Raves are all held in legal venues (for example, Helter Skelter @ Code, the same place as Gods Kitchen) with advertising, and whatever else. Airplay on BBC Radio 1 (Well John Peel and he'll play anything but...) The fact that Bonkers is on REACT, doesn't that show you that it isn't underground? I could go on....
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Agent_Double_EE
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Canada
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Posted - 2002/10/22 : 13:56:08
While it sucks its still good cuz then it gets exposure it deserves and in a year you'll find out who the true lovers of hhc are and who aren't its the same with everything ..... parties, poptarts, fuzzy pinkbunnies...no wait those will never go outta style and neither will hhc.
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DJ-SK8
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Posted - 2002/10/22 : 14:50:44
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Originally posted by DJSuperb:
Doesn't the fact that you can go into your loacal HMV and buy a hardcore CD show you how much hardcore ISN'T underground and it hasn't been since the very early 90's. Raves are all held in legal venues (for example, Helter Skelter @ Code, the same place as Gods Kitchen) with advertising, and whatever else. Airplay on BBC Radio 1 (Well John Peel and he'll play anything but...) The fact that Bonkers is on REACT, doesn't that show you that it isn't underground? I could go on....
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Those are all good examples...IF YOU LIVE IN THE UK!!!!!! in north america you have to scroung around into every nook and cranny to find hardcore (Aside from hullabaloo, ut thats more like a club night), and if you say to some one "Oh i listen to hardcore", they say "Hardcore what? hip hop, rock, punk.
It's vary different over here my friend...
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/22 : 14:55:43
DJSuperb: AFAIC there *is* no magic line that separates 'underground' from 'mainstream' - they're two extremes on a continuum. What I'm saying is that, while HHC may be more mainstream than IDM or speedbass or EBM, it's certainly more underground that pop-trance, pop-house and hi-nrg, and it'll always be so due to its substantial deviation from popular music structure and composition.
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JonezyCMABC
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Posted - 2002/10/23 : 04:50:58
DJ SK8 - please tell me what you think 'underground' means, becasue if you think Bonkers is underground, you've got a serious mis-understanding of this.
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virus
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Posted - 2002/10/23 : 05:22:49
hardcore is still the least represented music commercially in the rave scene.. if the commercials get more people to buy it, thats more money to react so they can continue to make Bonkers CD's.. you complained when there wasn't any more bonkers cd's coming out, and now that two more have come out, you dont want them to sell. make up your mind!!
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number2301
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Posted - 2002/10/23 : 09:36:57
The adverts are good! More exposure for Hardcore means a bigger scene! Thats only good :)
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