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Guest
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  11:42:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage  Reply with quote
so if you have a VMS4.1, you can use a mouse speed switcher, and set VMS4.1 touchpads to 4x the desktop of your desktop mouse to zip about traktor etc browser and use the touchpad buttons to load tracks

http://sourceforge.net/projects/automousesw/


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  12:29:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
so if you have a VMS4.1, you can use a mouse speed switcher, and set VMS4.1 touchpads to 4x the desktop of your desktop mouse to zip about traktor etc browser and use the touchpad buttons to load tracks

http://sourceforge.net/projects/automousesw/



You've answered my next three questions, cheers.


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_Jay_
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  14:38:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit _Jay_'s homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I think promo mixes and live sets should show what a DJ can do, and if that's quick mixing, great. But, sometimes people just want to hear the tunes (especially if they're really good ones). Often, if a tune appears on a mix/album months before release, it can be frustrating to only hear a bit of it.

Personally I can live with either, but I prefer getting lots into a mix, but I buy unmixed stuff that I can listen to all the way through anytime.



I know you love my long mixing style. In fact, I was thinking just recent, actually, that I might start playing each track in a mix twice, consecutively, just to make sure the listener really gets to hear every track properly.



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Guest
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  15:47:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
so if you have a VMS4.1, you can use a mouse speed switcher, and set VMS4.1 touchpads to 4x the desktop of your desktop mouse to zip about traktor etc browser and use the touchpad buttons to load tracks

http://sourceforge.net/projects/automousesw/



You've answered my next three questions, cheers.



its best to look around, because that program is abit rubbish to some to "might" have to pay for

this is free to use http://www.gphotoshow.com/mouse-speed-switcher.php but you get a nag screen if you don`t buy it


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Edited by - Guest on 2015/10/17 15:52:15
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  15:59:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I think promo mixes and live sets should show what a DJ can do, and if that's quick mixing, great. But, sometimes people just want to hear the tunes (especially if they're really good ones). Often, if a tune appears on a mix/album months before release, it can be frustrating to only hear a bit of it.

Personally I can live with either, but I prefer getting lots into a mix, but I buy unmixed stuff that I can listen to all the way through anytime.



I know you love my long mixing style. In fact, I was thinking just recent, actually, that I might start playing each track in a mix twice, consecutively, just to make sure the listener really gets to hear every track properly.





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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/17 :  18:27:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vladel's homepage  Reply with quote
I buy unmixed so I can either listen to the full track or make my own mixes exactly as I want with whatever tracks I want but I'm definitely not a dj.

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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2015/10/18 :  14:05:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jordesuvi's homepage  Reply with quote
I wouldn't dismiss quick mixing, I think it's great. Especially in energetic genres.

Also, I'd generally view wanting to hear a full track at show as a dated concept. If the DJ is on a for a few hours then sure, let the mixes be long while he takes you on a musical journey of seamless blends and transitions.
DJ's booked from 45-60 minutes do have to cram in a lot of music, from their hits to little gems or fan favourites from other producers to keep the hype and interest in their set.

Plus with musical ADHD on the rise, it makes sense that quick mixing should be more occurent.


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Alabaster
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Posted - 2015/10/28 :  12:39:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Alabaster's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by jordesuvi:
I wouldn't dismiss quick mixing, I think it's great. Especially in energetic genres.

Also, I'd generally view wanting to hear a full track at show as a dated concept. If the DJ is on a for a few hours then sure, let the mixes be long while he takes you on a musical journey of seamless blends and transitions.
DJ's booked from 45-60 minutes do have to cram in a lot of music, from their hits to little gems or fan favourites from other producers to keep the hype and interest in their set.

Plus with musical ADHD on the rise, it makes sense that quick mixing should be more occurent.



I generally like the long 'musical journey' type sets you mention, but I think that style of mixing work better with less frantic genres. For me speedy mixing suits hardcore as well as most hard genres generally. The energy and speed of the mixing compliments the energy and speed of the music.


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Laser
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Posted - 2015/11/14 :  07:56:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Laser's homepage  Reply with quote
I utilize looping a lot so I believe it's possible for on the spot mashups :3

I've noticed, however, I do a lot better when I use gain slider transitions than crossfader. It just makes sense.


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Posted - 2015/11/23 :  08:55:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Alabaster's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laser:
I've noticed, however, I do a lot better when I use gain slider transitions than crossfader. It just makes sense.



Same, I wonder if it's possible to mix hardcore on a rotary mixer...


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Samination
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Posted - 2015/11/23 :  09:07:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
for my latest mix (Mix 59), i actually thought that the quick mixes ruined the tracks i played. I think it went much better when i didnt do as many quickmixes on it as i usually do.

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Edited by - Samination on 2015/11/23 09:07:21
ViolonC
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Posted - 2015/11/24 :  01:22:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ViolonC's homepage  Reply with quote
I guess they both have their place regarding connecting the next track and regarding the crowd you are playing to.

Some tracks just don't blend well together even if they can function very well after another. As a musician i might be a little more picky but i really hate it if the keys don't match up and even more if there is not another element that connects the tracks. So a short transition is a better option for that to not make ears bleed.

Some crowds just want to dance and have a nice overall package. But sometimes it's just hearing the tunes they know. So no point in playing something less known and even better putting as much as possible in what they know. Because such a crowd doesn't care about elaborate mixing techniques. On the other hand you have to spent more consideration on your track list, something thats sometimes overlooked (or rather silently expected) but essential for a good DJ.

I think it's nice that you can do both very well in Hardcore. I'm spinning Trance and House from time to time and they kinda demand long, gradual transitions with only the new "EDM" shit allowing/demanding sucker transitions.


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