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Decky_G
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Hey peeps new to the site and I've been getting back into my Hardcore.

What's the best site to buy full length tracks these days?

Thanks :)


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CDJay
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Www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk for cds. There's a sale starting on Weds, so your timing is impeccable.

For Digi releases, beatport, trackitdown, wherever you want really.



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Decky_G
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Posted - 2015/11/02 :  13:50:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Decky_G's homepage
Cheers buddy and I've just got paid so win win :)

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Samination
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http://j-core.biz/ if you want to get japanese hardcore/makina

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Guest
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Posted - 2015/11/03 :  09:49:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage
only places that will sell the wav for the DJ to fix for mixing

uk hardcore http://www.junodownload.com/uk-hardcore/this-week/releases/
hardcore https://www.hardtunes.com/hardcore

don`t want no mp3`s, they sound like pure shit for a rack mount EQ, or any new mixer that adds crappy color to the audio

if you got the wav`s you can end up with something like



https://soundcloud.com/for-all-those/cakes

put a few EQ` s and compressors on a mp3`s it will sound like 32kbit encode


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Edited by - Guest on 2015/11/03 09:57:23
DJ SMALOUM
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Posted - 2015/11/03 :  13:17:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ SMALOUM's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:

For Digi releases, beatport, trackitdown, wherever you want really.

CDJay



most popular but not better than BANDCAMP. in BANDCAMP this is the artists who choose the prices for sell their tracks.i found very interesting releases from LE DOS ON,TRIPLESTAR etc... and if i got good memory even AL STORM is on this site and i found "my guiding light (raver baby mix)" for less expansive than in trackitdown


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Guest
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  08:02:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage
not many shops actually sell wav`s, beat port etc just transcode the mp3 to a wav and sell it for more money

like peasents, you only need 15 terrabyte drives to have 30,000 50mb wav`s to serve, thats like ?640 in drives, in any old rubbish NAS box. have your wesite on a remote hoster with a xeon processor, and storage in your shops bassment


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Edited by - Guest on 2015/11/04 08:11:03
Samination
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  09:33:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
not many shops actually sell wav`s, beat port etc just transcode the mp3 to a wav and sell it for more money

like peasents, you only need 15 terrabyte drives to have 30,000 50mb wav`s to serve, thats like ?640 in drives, in any old rubbish NAS box. have your wesite on a remote hoster with a xeon processor, and storage in your shops bassment



Any proof that beatport transcodes from mp3 to wave? Not that I use beatport because their prices are way past what TID or juno takes (for swedes)


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Sc@r
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  10:48:44  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Sc@r's homepage
Best bet is look these stalls for a variety of labels and artists :

beatport
juno download
harddancemp3.com (mega cheap!!!!!)
itunes and amazon also sell hardcore mp3s

good luck and have fun!


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CDJay
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  18:23:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage
Store sale is live.

Go wild

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djDMS
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Some of those sale prices are ridiculous!

Buy buy buy


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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  19:34:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Impulse_Response's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
not many shops actually sell wav`s, beat port etc just transcode the mp3 to a wav and sell it for more money

like peasents, you only need 15 terrabyte drives to have 30,000 50mb wav`s to serve, thats like ?640 in drives, in any old rubbish NAS box. have your wesite on a remote hoster with a xeon processor, and storage in your shops bassment


Beatport definitely sells real wavs, assuming that the artists provide real wavs and not transcodes (and transcodes are far too common in hardcore). Still, as Samination said, TID has better prices. I also use TID whenever possible because out of the big three (Beatport, TID, Juno) it provides the highest quality artwork.

Above all, it's frustrating that these sites charge extra for wavs. This is pro audio, so lossless should be the standard, not a "specialty," though I would argue the same for all music. I'd like to see them take the Bandcamp approach and charge a single price for the music, and then let you choose the format you want.



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Captain Triceps
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Maybe they are charging standard price for .wavs and they just charge less for MP3s?

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CDJay
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Posted - 2015/11/04 :  22:24:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage
I'm genuinely bemused by it; it can't have that much of an effect on bandwidth costs and almost every device has the storage available to have a .wav file unless they are exclusuively downloading on a restricted mobile contract.

The real story is... why the hell are we sticking to 16/44.1khz in a supposedly unshackled digital age where STREAMING 4k video with DD+ is imminent?

I guess the real irony is I am pushing CDs at a point where half decent CDJ setups take 24/48khz which is DAT essentially. Irony tapes itself up.

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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2015/11/05 :  00:41:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Impulse_Response's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I'm genuinely bemused by it; it can't have that much of an effect on bandwidth costs and almost every device has the storage available to have a .wav file unless they are exclusuively downloading on a restricted mobile contract.


I would guess it's because most people are used to mp3, so when they want to charge extra for higher quality most people don't give it a second thought and it's easy money for the store.

quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
The real story is... why the hell are we sticking to 16/44.1khz in a supposedly unshackled digital age where STREAMING 4k video with DD+ is imminent?



Good point. Music must be the one area in which many people not only have no regard for quality, but they actively demand lower quality. For example, "128 kbps mp3 is good enough, don't give me any more than that, and if you want higher then you are fooling yourself."

I recognize that 16/44.1 (with the limitations on implementation) is so close to the limits of human hearing that most people would probably never know the difference. Even so, why not upgrade to, say, 24/96? At that point you surpass human hearing in both frequency response and dynamic range, and you know for sure that the format is not interfering with what you hear, though this assumes that the mastering is good enough to warrant using high res. It may seem excessive to some, but those who are afraid of big numbers can always truncate and convert down to whatever they want.

Short version: I would be very excited if HU or others were to fully embrace high res audio. Also I'm not trying to coach you; this is my long-winded way of agreeing with you.

quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I guess the real irony is I am pushing CDs at a point where half decent CDJ setups take 24/48khz which is DAT essentially. Irony tapes itself up.


Even with the prospect of high res, I fully embrace CDs for the physical aspect. You could try to satisfy that with other means such as files on a USB, but then you are setting yourself up for data loss by faulty electronics, static discharge or computer error corrupting your files, dropping it and something snaps on the inside etc. CD is just a more robust format. I think it would be really cool if you keep offering CDs, but include a set of high res files that you can download right after purchase, kind of like ordering a CD on Bandcamp or Amazon's AutoRip but with high res instead of mp3.

If you really wanted to, you could also offer high res Blu Ray audio discs, though as far as I know those cost more to make.


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Guest
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Posted - 2015/11/05 :  05:31:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
not many shops actually sell wav`s, beat port etc just transcode the mp3 to a wav and sell it for more money

like peasents, you only need 15 terrabyte drives to have 30,000 50mb wav`s to serve, thats like ?640 in drives, in any old rubbish NAS box. have your wesite on a remote hoster with a xeon processor, and storage in your shops bassment



Any proof that beatport transcodes from mp3 to wave? Not that I use beatport because their prices are way past what TID or juno takes (for swedes)



they admitted it like aload of other sites, when wav`s first started to appear on label own websites, hardtunes was the first of the first shops to sell wav`s

flac is better, you have have all metatags and label cover art etc, but most encoder`s ar`nt full lossless, you need dbpoweramp


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