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Samination
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 Posted - 2015/11/05 : 06:08:48
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Originally posted by CDJay:
I'm genuinely bemused by it; it can't have that much of an effect on bandwidth costs and almost every device has the storage available to have a .wav file unless they are exclusuively downloading on a restricted mobile contract.
The real story is... why the hell are we sticking to 16/44.1khz in a supposedly unshackled digital age where STREAMING 4k video with DD+ is imminent?
I guess the real irony is I am pushing CDs at a point where half decent CDJ setups take 24/48khz which is DAT essentially. Irony tapes itself up.
CDJay
I guess as long as we dont try to do 96kHz... you friggin audip(h)iles :P
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Decky_G
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 06:16:05
Was on HU site and seen a good few cds to catch up on. TWR rec seem to be dominant on the digital front. Fair shout?
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 08:13:32
Twr with their one release a month?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 08:59:02
Not exactly prolific but they are bringing some decent stuff out.
Don't forget Evolution records too, Scott Brown is back with a bang!
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d2kx
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 14:43:57
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
The real story is... why the hell are we sticking to 16/44.1khz in a supposedly unshackled digital age where STREAMING 4k video with DD+ is imminent?
I guess the real irony is I am pushing CDs at a point where half decent CDJ setups take 24/48khz which is DAT essentially. Irony tapes itself up.
CDJay
Because they make absolutely no sense for a listener (different story for producers). I thought this was common knowledge by now:
https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
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Originally posted by Vladel:
Twr with their one release a month?
It was a release every three weeks and they are moving to a new release every two weeks schedule again now.
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Decky_G
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 15:23:26
I made that statement based on trackitdown's top 100. TWR have quite a few in the top 10. Maybe I was stupid to assume that.
Yes Dms how could I forget about Evolution records. Always on my mind by him was the last ever vinyl I bought.
Now to start downloading. Thanks for all your assistance folks :)
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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 21:01:34
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Originally posted by d2kx:
Because they make absolutely no sense for a listener (different story for producers). I thought this was common knowledge by now:
https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
I too am one to throw around this xiph link. While I believe it in theory, I have observed that even a clean conversion down to 44.1 impacts the high frequencies in the audible range. People would probably argue that it is too small or occurs at frequencies that are too high for people to hear, but I don't care. The simple truth is that the format measurably impacts the sound at 44.1, and in my mind this is unacceptable. There is no reason to cater to the lowest common denominator, and I am perfectly happy to accept slightly larger files to ensure that the format does not affect the sound. As I said in an earlier post, audio is probably the one field where people would argue that "good enough" is good enough.
I'm also curious if, one day, science will discover a phenomenon that causes the significant high-frequency energy produced by, say, a violin to impact the way we perceive sound. Right now though this sort is generally labeled pseudo-science.
I might add an image later for proof of my 44.1 claim if I feel like it.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 21:39:56
All that is totally irrelevant if you don't have the right equipment to listen to the music
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CDJay
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 22:03:49
quote:
Originally posted by d2kx:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
The real story is... why the hell are we sticking to 16/44.1khz in a supposedly unshackled digital age where STREAMING 4k video with DD+ is imminent?
I guess the real irony is I am pushing CDs at a point where half decent CDJ setups take 24/48khz which is DAT essentially. Irony tapes itself up.
CDJay
Because they make absolutely no sense for a listener (different story for producers). I thought this was common knowledge by now:
https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
Fairly confident to say it is assumed to be common knowledge when so many blu-rays are 24/96 or 24/48 lossless. I realise space is far less of an issue, there, but you have to kinda wonder why.
I haven't listened to enough high res audio attentively, or blind tested, but I'm fairly confident the 24/96 of Diversions sounds both identifiably and notably better than the 16/44.1 on my (admittedly high end) system. It's also what the album was mastered at (and, I get the impression, almost all professionally mastered tracks/albums are currently mastered at).
I should have some time over December to deep dive a bit, as I find it quite interesting, but it's a very strong angle to take claiming that 16/44.1 is actually *better* then 24/48. It's contrary to pretty much all my experience and indeed almost anything else I've ever read.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2015/11/08 : 23:26:30
Definitely not the best but i'm posting here anyway :
http://projectbadass.bandcamp.com/music
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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2015/11/09 : 02:14:22
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Originally posted by djDMS:
All that is totally irrelevant if you don't have the right equipment to listen to the music
True, but you might as well give the option for those who want to believe and/or have the equipment, since there's nothing to lose other than a bit of hard drive space.
EDIT: I guess it's also worth adding that the acoustics of the listening environment and the quality of speakers are worth obsessing about way more than that little bit of distortion produced by gear.
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DJ SMALOUM
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Posted - 2015/11/09 : 10:41:17
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Originally posted by Cyrax:
Definitely not the best but i'm posting here anyway :
http://projectbadass.bandcamp.com/music
( you gave me a good idea m8  )
definitely not the bests but i'm posting here:
http://www.junodownload.com/artists/DJ+Smaloum/releases
https://ecstacy-t.bandcamp.com/
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Laser
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Posted - 2015/11/13 : 01:58:51
I enjoy Amazon Digital but be warned it's not gonna have EVERYTHING however it's got quite a good selection :)
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/11/13 : 08:37:23
I think Juno is about the best site at the moment where beatport is the worst. Trawling through 10-20 slow boring techno tracks to get to one hardcore track is just soul destroying.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/11/13 : 08:52:40
Every month or so I look at all the usual sites and make a list, then buy as much of it as possible from Amazon and the rest/exclusives from wherever.
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