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Claxton
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Posted - 2016/03/11 : 17:29:44
The last one was a huge success and stimulate superb debate on this forum. I hope this can do the same.
https://happyhardcoreblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/why-the-dj-is-obsolete/
quote: Gradually, over the years, there has become more pressure upon producers to only play their own music when they?re playing out. This effect has only been amplified as more and more producers have started doing it. As discussed in my previous blog, the bigger names in Hardcore are absolutely hopeless at supporting the scene and other artists within it. This has had a knock on effect meaning that more and more artists have needed to play exclusively their own music because no one else is supporting it on the main stages. Hence why most live sets these days are production showcases and nothing more.
https://happyhardcoreblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/why-the-dj-is-obsolete/
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2016/03/11 : 23:10:40
Sadly i must agree.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 00:07:08
Is it a coincidence that MC Emily made this post the same day your blog entry went up?
quote: We are in a era now where every single up and comer deserves to make it! No matter how shit they can be apparently! no no it's fine your an up and comer so you have to get main stage coz it's not fair otherwise lol come on guys sometimes an artist just is not good enough can we accept that coz so far I've read recently every mc/dj their mum their nan or there dog deserves a shot lol "my dad owns a bar so **** it give him kick off set the word bar was mentioned"!! Lol really grinds my gears haha.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 00:30:24
'Why the DJ is obsolete'
Originally titled
'Why I don't get bookings'
;-)
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ultraskool
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 11:52:50
thanks for that article, a very interesting article, are you talking about the likes of Dj S3RL or even Scott Brown for that matter?
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ViolonC
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 14:17:00
I think a lot of it has to do with the producers having become the artists themselves. Classically the job of a producer was to get a band on record as good as possible. Surly they were involved with some creative decisions to varying degree, but the main job was to take care and be responsible for the recording and engineering. With dance music there is no band, in fact the producer is the band so he is now making all the creative decisions as well.
When you go out to see your favorite band you also want them to play their own tunes. A cover version here and there is nice but nothing more. As the producer is the band now there is not much difference. They lend their performance style from the DJs that were there before. So there are countless techniques and professional gear available. But they are not necessarily DJs in the old fashion sense and people that came to see their favorite "band" would be disappointed when they can't hear the music they came for.
In a sense it's a clash of cutures. But the DJMag TOP100 already shown us that the change has happened years ago. Old fashion DJs will still be around, because there are countless bars, clubs etc. where a person doing the music with a pulse to the people at the venue can do amazing things. But they won't be a big part of the top act for purely musical events. Because, let's face it, pure cover bands haven't been either ... with only a few exceptions to the rule.
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Alabaster
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 16:08:07
I think what you describe is a new iteration of an old phenomena. In the days of vinyl you not only booked the DJ, but also his record bag. The music was kept fresh and exciting because not every DJ had access to the same music. Now the record bad no longer exists and everyone has access to the same music, so that's what they play; the same music. The producer has the edge over the non-producing DJ because the producer has the capacity to keep things fresh by playing (their own) unreleased music.
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lurker
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 23:21:04
Don't mind me, I'm just waiting for Thumpa to jump in and call you full of shit.
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wong
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Posted - 2016/03/12 : 23:23:19
quote: Originally posted by lurker:
Don't mind me, I'm just waiting for Thumpa to jump in and call you full of shit.
guessing you didnt read it ..?
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Samination
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Posted - 2016/03/13 : 07:49:54
quote: Originally posted by lurker:
Don't mind me, I'm just waiting for Thumpa to jump in and call you full of shit.
Too bad thumpa has already liked and said it was a good article on facebook? :P
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Vladel
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Posted - 2016/03/13 : 09:21:20
Of course thumpa is going to like something that gives him credit.
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arpz
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Posted - 2016/03/16 : 08:36:35
I enjoyed this post, and Fracus & Darwin had a sort of complementary post on FB too (pretty much about why they don't cain the anthems and that new music is required to prevent the scene becoming stale)
"You could play a weak song 1000 times and it would still get a weak reaction" - Gammer
Is that some kind of retaliation or am I just being oversensitive?
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Samination
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Posted - 2016/03/16 : 08:57:24
quote: Originally posted by arpz:
"You could play a weak song 1000 times and it would still get a weak reaction" - Gammer
Is that some kind of retaliation or am I just being oversensitive?
Coming from Gammer it's kinda hard to know. Sometimes his serious (with us being haters) and sometimes he's just taking the piss (being the god of new happy hardcore).
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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/03/16 : 09:26:50
Have to admit, he has a point.
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arpz
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Posted - 2016/03/16 : 10:10:48
Yes, but if it's a dig then there's no call for it and its a bit pessimistic isn't it? If you assume for a second that it is some kind of veiled reply then isn't he just saying "new stuff is shit, play more drake"..?
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arpz
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Posted - 2016/03/16 : 10:17:38
That isn't really what I meant.. I'm having trouble explaining it but basically its just defeatist as **** if it is a reply
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