SparkzMusic Senior Member
Zimbabwe
334 posts Joined: Apr, 2011
Posted - 2018/11/27 : 01:02:25
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
Wow. It's like a hug from Edward Scissorhands. Good luck getting a representative genre comp in future 😉
Edit: I mainly enjoy the idea of any uk hardcore mix being "safe" in the current climate. Genuinely, you'll miss it when it's gone.
CDJay
CDJay. I don't mean to burst the bubble or bring down that ego but surely c'mon.
A "representative genre comp" ?
What is representative of the genre? A side that has Fracus and Darwin, or a side that has Darren Styles? Answers on a postcard please.
Why would people, in most cases miss what isn't there and what they have lived so long without?
You are someone who has done a lot for the "scene" or whatever it's called now. You worked hard and went above the call of duty, but, let's just say even though it felt like it at times and perhaps was, it's not a voluntary position at all.
If the scene is so bad and the whole HU stuff or whatever is ....and to not quote me but it was something you said recently along the lines of "holding the scene together".... why not pack it in?
It just seems as if you speak about the releases you do in such a way, that if the god, yourself, wasn't getting stuff released then nobody would have anything to listen to...ever.
When truly, I think less people care than you think. On here anyway.
CDJay Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,049 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2018/11/27 : 11:36:59
The postcard would add "Mob" and "Tecknikore", and probably a list of the different artists featured across three albums in the space of just over 12 months.
After the crap at the start of the year, we stepped back to focus on internal projects and what's happened elsewhere as the year draws to a close? Next to nothing. Why? Well, it's alluded to else where in this thread, and forum, but it's something I've been banging my head against for years: a total lack of impetus and agency at all levels. Writing and releasing music is *CRITICAL* for a scene to survive, never mind thrive.
Everyone is sitting around sort of hoping this will fix itself, but it really won't until everyone at all levels actually starts writing and releasing music and then properly showcasing it to both existing and new audiences.
I'm *far* from claiming to be God as it's very clear that I've failed. I mean, look at the state of things FFS. I think you might have confused my frustration with something else entirely.
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,514 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2018/11/27 : 13:44:05
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
The postcard would add "Mob" and "Tecknikore", and probably a list of the different artists featured across three albums in the space of just over 12 months.
After the crap at the start of the year, we stepped back to focus on internal projects and what's happened elsewhere as the year draws to a close? Next to nothing. Why? Well, it's alluded to else where in this thread, and forum, but it's something I've been banging my head against for years: a total lack of impetus and agency at all levels. Writing and releasing music is *CRITICAL* for a scene to survive, never mind thrive.
Everyone is sitting around sort of hoping this will fix itself, but it really won't until everyone at all levels actually starts writing and releasing music and then properly showcasing it to both existing and new audiences.
I'm *far* from claiming to be God as it's very clear that I've failed. I mean, look at the state of things FFS. I think you might have confused my frustration with something else entirely.
CDJay
No one can knock your dedication over the years and yes, this year has been very ****in grim
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/11/27 : 18:14:03
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
Wow. It's like a hug from Edward Scissorhands. Good luck getting a representative genre comp in future 😉
Edit: I mainly enjoy the idea of any uk hardcore mix being "safe" in the current climate. Genuinely, you'll miss it when it's gone.
CDJay
I disagree with sam there, I think scott's mix was way safer than f & d's. i don't even think i liked 1 track off scott's mix, there was nothing i could identify as a scott brown sound, really. making it way too safe. atleast f& d mix did not make me forget i was listening to a hardcore mix. i see where you are coming from ,but how much general public is honestly paying attention? how much would honestly be lost just making a mix of full on bangers, and say **** the mainstream corporate sound or potential exposure? at this point, i think the " safe sound" is a lose lose.
the general public barely registers a blip, and the whiny jaded old hardcore heads just get bored. let's just go out with a bang. lol
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/11/27 : 18:18:19
it's honestly the same reason i can barely be bothered to attend a hardcore rave anymore.
i refuse to wade through through hours of butchered mixes containing ******** trap/dubstep/big room/ etc sounds, just to hear a few solid vocal bangers. It's a waste of my time. The vibe is gone.
If I feel the same way about hardcore mixes.... there is no way "playing it safe" is of value for us at this stage. Perhaps it was a valiant shot ,but I don't think it is paying off.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,078 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/11/28 : 10:04:49
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
Wow. It's like a hug from Edward Scissorhands. Good luck getting a representative genre comp in future 😉
Edit: I mainly enjoy the idea of any uk hardcore mix being "safe" in the current climate. Genuinely, you'll miss it when it's gone.
CDJay
I disagree with sam there, I think scott's mix was way safer than f & d's. i don't even think i liked 1 track off scott's mix, there was nothing i could identify as a scott brown sound, really. making it way too safe. atleast f& d mix did not make me forget i was listening to a hardcore mix. i see where you are coming from ,but how much general public is honestly paying attention? how much would honestly be lost just making a mix of full on bangers, and say **** the mainstream corporate sound or potential exposure? at this point, i think the " safe sound" is a lose lose.
the general public barely registers a blip, and the whiny jaded old hardcore heads just get bored. let's just go out with a bang. lol
so, you're disagreeing with me, by agreeing with me and saying it's even more safer than I said it was? :P
CDJay: Scott Browns mix contain zero gabber(ish) tracks, while F&D contained 1. You should never play more gabber than the Scotsman! :P
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djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/11/28 : 11:18:58
It was what it needed to be. Didn't blow my pants off but was a definite representation of the music at the time (and since).
As for the 'why not release a CD full of bangers' argument.
Good luck with that! I've been gathering tunes for a mix that I'd want to listen to all the way through for months and I'm still nowhere near.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,078 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/11/28 : 11:57:03
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
It was what it needed to be. Didn't blow my pants off but was a definite representation of the music at the time (and since).
As for the 'why not release a CD full of bangers' argument.
Good luck with that! I've been gathering tunes for a mix that I'd want to listen to all the way through for months and I'm still nowhere near.
are you talking about newer tracks, or 30 years of music that you cant fill 60-80 minutes of?
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/11/28 : 19:47:30
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
It was what it needed to be. Didn't blow my pants off but was a definite representation of the music at the time (and since).
As for the 'why not release a CD full of bangers' argument.
Good luck with that! I've been gathering tunes for a mix that I'd want to listen to all the way through for months and I'm still nowhere near.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/11/28 : 19:48:36
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
Wow. It's like a hug from Edward Scissorhands. Good luck getting a representative genre comp in future 😉
Edit: I mainly enjoy the idea of any uk hardcore mix being "safe" in the current climate. Genuinely, you'll miss it when it's gone.
CDJay
I disagree with sam there, I think scott's mix was way safer than f & d's. i don't even think i liked 1 track off scott's mix, there was nothing i could identify as a scott brown sound, really. making it way too safe. atleast f& d mix did not make me forget i was listening to a hardcore mix. i see where you are coming from ,but how much general public is honestly paying attention? how much would honestly be lost just making a mix of full on bangers, and say **** the mainstream corporate sound or potential exposure? at this point, i think the " safe sound" is a lose lose.
the general public barely registers a blip, and the whiny jaded old hardcore heads just get bored. let's just go out with a bang. lol
so, you're disagreeing with me, by agreeing with me and saying it's even more safer than I said it was? :P
CDJay: Scott Browns mix contain zero gabber(ish) tracks, while F&D contained 1. You should never play more gabber than the Scotsman! :P
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/11/30 : 07:01:15
Here a is set from him last year. With all tracks from well established producers. Saying that I am surprised how big parties seem to be getting in Australia. They seem to be getting higher attendances there than even Westfest.
Should Darren Styles support new producers more?
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