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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2020/08/23 : 01:27:06
The more I see what the Netherlands is doing with their Hardcore/Hardstyle scene, the more I realise it is the direction the UK Hardcore scene should keep taking and aspiring towards like it did at it's peak in the mid 90's.
Their whole scene is well marketed and very slick.
While the whole candy thing was very detrimental to the image of UK Hardcore in the end.. It should be left as far away as possible now. It made our scene an embarrassment in the 2000s & early 2010s.
Image and marketing is everything in music these days. With candy and anime never being taken seriously and completly mocked by most.
One reason Candy never existed in the Netherlands Hard music scenes.
Some Hardstyle Producers even seem to be making more and more tracks at faster 170 + tempos all the time. With great examples of what UK Hardcore productions can become.
REBELION - NEVER
The Dutch are even putting on Quarentin festivals with epic professionalism.
One of the best sets I have ever heard from Headhunterz. If he did UK Hardcore. He would rule the scene with his productions. Reminds me a lot of Hardcore.
Update.. Thought I'd add this track too.
Brilliant. Proppa fast Hardcore
Impulse_Response Advanced Member
United States
724 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/08/23 : 08:29:00
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
I'm all for ditching candy, but I'll never accept those disgusting distorted kicks.
Hard to dance to them in your fluffy boots is it ?
This is only my personal definition and highly simplified, but for me the kick the is the biggest factor that differentiates UK hardcore from gabber. Add in a gabber kick for the whole song and it's no longer UK hardcore.
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,073 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/08/23 : 08:35:16
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
I'm all for ditching candy, but I'll never accept those disgusting distorted kicks.
Hard to dance to them in your fluffy boots is it ?
This is only my personal definition and highly simplified, but for me the kick the is the biggest factor that differentiates UK hardcore from gabber. Add in a gabber kick for the whole song and it's no longer UK hardcore.
No, that would make it to a mid to late 90's Happy Hardcore
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LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2020/08/24 : 04:18:48
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
I'm all for ditching candy, but I'll never accept those disgusting distorted kicks.
Hard to dance to them in your fluffy boots is it ?
This is only my personal definition and highly simplified, but for me the kick the is the biggest factor that differentiates UK hardcore from gabber. Add in a gabber kick for the whole song and it's no longer UK hardcore.
tbh no, I'd say Frenchcore is closer to UK Hardcore, kick off beat bass. Just the pace of it.
Maybe why the likes of Sefa are so popular because he's bringing in the HHC likers among the hardcore heads. Bit like Elstak did back in the day.
Impulse_Response Advanced Member
United States
724 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 07:32:40
quote:Originally posted by Coolgamer:
Oy, don't you disrespect me and the candy crew like this.
I was still with my ex when S3RL played a set in Houston. She said a bunch of hot rave girls in the bathroom were complaining about all the "normal" looking people like me (shorts and T-shirt).
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,073 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 16:38:34
Haha
"how the turntables"
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 18:27:39
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
and anime never being taken seriously and completly mocked by most.
anime is more popular than ever. It's taken very seriously, by multiple cultures, and is really only mocked by neck beards that never watched dragon ball z.
Embarrassing. Dragon ball z is a male youth right of passage.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,073 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 18:30:07
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
Embarrassing. Dragon ball z is a male youth right of passage.
No, you're pathetic. everyone knows Bible Black and La Blue Girl are the rite of passage.
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Impulse_Response Advanced Member
United States
724 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 18:32:54
I agree, anime is more popular than ever. It's an essential medium for people who like animated works because most of the western stuff (that I'm aware of) is either kids' shows or garbage (think Family Guy). Though certain groups like Funimation trash it with censorship and changes to the script.
My experience is the people who mock anime are the people who have never seen any.
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Alert moderatorEdited by - Impulse_Response on 2020/08/26 18:33:27
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/08/26 : 18:33:20
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
Embarrassing. Dragon ball z is a male youth right of passage.
No, you're pathetic. everyone knows Bible Black and La Blue Girl are the rite of passage.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/08/27 : 03:58:43
quote:Originally posted by jenks:
The only anime I've been able to enjoy as an adult is Attack on Titan.
Attack on Titan is so good. Can't wait for the end of it .
Check out Tower Of God. and One Punch Man. and Demon Slayer. and Akame Ga Kill. and Black Clover.
I can't get enough, I nerd out hard.
shit, When i saw Spor In LA, he was using scenes from Akira for screen projections, people went wild.
same with a big dnb act at one of the big insomniac festivals in CA. It was either drumsound & bassline smith, or maybe DC breaks B2B Loadstar, but they were playing neon genesis evangelion on the screen. hype.
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Alert moderatorEdited by - trippnface on 2020/08/27 04:00:41
Emulate the Dutch scene & ditch the candy image.
Printer friendly
Posted - 2020/08/23 : 01:27:06
