quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
I'd be more pressed on how to bring Hardcore back as a genre, as I saw a live stream yesterday from a promotion and the music was awful, really really bad.
TBH I don't know what could bring it back now. Most of the top names have lost interest, there's nobody with any clout to push it sadly. Maybe something interesting will happen with the "new oldskool" Kniteforce type sound, but most of the people into "new oldskool" are pushing 40+ years old and not going out raving every weekend (ignoring COVID!).
I was just freshly born when hardcore was at its peak, but as someone who is in my 20s in the current "rave" scene (if you could really call it that), I don't think it will come back or at least won't have the same impact on people that it once did. I don't think the electronic music scene these days could really foster the type of community that made hardcore so great and that's not to shit on my generation by any stretch, I just think that the overall attitude in the 90s/early 00s rave scene lent itself well to happy hardcore/uk hardcore. It really seems like a product of its time and it died down because its time was done and I think that's ok :) It's unfortunately something that I missed out on and I'm not sure that it can be recreated.
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,635 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2020/11/07 : 20:27:23
agree that a back catalogue would be welcome, though I'd rather it wasn't remastered to be honest - far too many ****ed brickwalled tracks knocking about.
Impulse_Response Advanced Member
United States
724 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/11/07 : 22:50:08
quote:Originally posted by Triquatra:
agree that a back catalogue would be welcome, though I'd rather it wasn't remastered to be honest - far too many ****ed brickwalled tracks knocking about.
Like the recent Nu Energy bundle, though I'm still happy to have it.
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Craigavon raver Advanced Member
Ireland
2,207 posts Joined: Sep, 2007
Posted - 2021/01/17 : 19:38:24
quote:Originally posted by 9oh9:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by 9oh9:
Interesting hearing about the infamous "hardcore summit" meeting in '99 too haha. I'd always wondered why they tried to play trance at a hardcore rave! They said that nobody else followed along with what was decided (to try and slow things down), but to be fair that could be why Hixxy was pushing the B-Trax/Bonkers 7 sound at the time too?
Hixxy was starting to play Trance/Hard Trance imports in 1998, so it wasn't to do with that 1999 meeting.
I must admit, I did smile when Grant suggested slowing the music down. Brisk wouldn't have been impressed.
He might've been playing a few imports, but Bonkers 7 was an entire album disc of trance influenced hardcore that him and UFO knocked out at 160-165 bpm; sounds pretty much like what F&S were saying with "everyone was told to go away and make a few tracks at a slower speed"! Would love to hear what F&S came up with, doubt we ever will though...
Is hixxys bonkers 7 that bpm? then again the more you think about it, bonkers 7 was actually my first bonkers so I probably never really noticed it as been used to it that long and heard it before any other bonkers
Craigavon raver Advanced Member
Ireland
2,207 posts Joined: Sep, 2007
Posted - 2021/01/17 : 19:43:06
Seen these on soundcloud a few months ago, never got round to listening to them though, sounds intresting and must def listen when I get a chance, also seen slipmatt, luna-c which would be intresting to hear also, plus a few dnb and jungle dj's which I would have no intention of listening to.
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Posted - 2020/10/26 : 17:08:01
then again the more you think about it, bonkers 7 was actually my first bonkers so I probably never really noticed it as been used to it that long and heard it before any other bonkers
