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strychnine
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 Posted - 2002/10/28 : 03:11:20
most testing kits can only tell you the predominant make-up of a pill, so if it's mostly mdma it'll show up positive for mdma <=== this result will mask the presence of any other drugs like meth or pma. they are also limited to distinguishing between classes of drugs, ie they can't tell the difference between mda and mdma, which are both in the same class.
the advanced kits like ez-test extreme are more expensive, more complicated to use, and a lot harder to analyse. however, they *can* detect the presence of pma even under an mdma mask, and they can detect the presence of secondary amines, ie the difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine, or between mdma and mda.
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miss-mitzi
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 03:21:31
yeah it will tell u if there is mdma in it but not the% if u have bought an asperin (or somethin like that) the test will stay clear but it also stays clear for pma so that isnt much help
we tested my m8s on 2 tests an found it had speed on one test and pmx(think thats right) on the other1 so u work it out!!!!??????
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 03:23:48
sorry not pmx..... it was bzp .... all verrrrry confusing ...
if u wanna find out more try
www.pillreports.com
its a cracking site!!!!!
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 03:30:18
i've been on pillreports 
two-stage testers (first stage to find the primary compound, the second to detect secondary amines) are, like i said, a lot better but need more lab-skill to use. even the basic testers, which only have the first stage, need to be watched *very* carefully and closely if you're gonna get a correct analysis.
yeah i agree they're not perfect but dammit they're a lot more reliable (and safer) than what your dealer says.
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toxic
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 12:12:47
Drugs arent all that bad, but they arent also that good ... like with most things there are positive's and negative's
-that feeling, just as it begins to kick ... its just unbeatable
-drunk ppl tend to become violent and abusive ... have u seen any one on xtc become violent?
-after i nite out of xtc its *safer* to drive home, than to drive home if uve been drinking
-u can never be entirely sure in what ur taking ... theres always that element of risk
-comedowns are usually a bitch
-memory loss
if u want the upsides, be prepared for the downsides
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Dj Tripnosis
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 16:34:40
quote:
Originally posted by Syco:
I'm gonna quote of thee film Human Traffic,
You're More likely to die eating a cabbage leaf than you are dropping an E,
nuff' said.
It's actually " Your more likely to die from choking on a popsicle stick than you are from droppin an E". I just like to keep the sayings straight. as for Drugs, there good and bad. You can discover so much about yourself and other people by the use of it and then agian, loose so much of your self to them at the same time. It's all about moderation and takin responsability.
Sure they alter reality and screw your mind up but who's to say what reality really is, who's to say that the pills aren't tapping you into a whole different part of reality, opening a part of your subconscious that is otherwise unknown to you. it's difficult to say anything for nothing in science and or religion can give a definate explanation of what life really is. it's like asking to explain the feeling of what it's like not to be able to see behind you, and if you could , how you would be able to cope with all around vision....you just don't know......I think ive said more than whats on my mind and yer prolly gettin bored so i'll stop now.....[end]
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Posted - 2002/10/28 : 20:59:22
Tripnosis, your reply gives some impression of how complex the whole drugs issue is, with its significance at the social, psychological, spiritual, philosophical etc. levels. With that in mind it's funny (and disturbing) to look at the disgustingly simplistic analyses that the authorities and institutions (eg religious groups) like to feed the general public.
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toxic
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Posted - 2002/10/29 : 02:22:48
ahhh, pillreports, yes, great site
particularly when my mate couldnt decide what pills to buy ... went on pillreports and it made the decision easy 
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jamie_crichton
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Posted - 2002/10/29 : 02:56:25
Some good advice in this forum.
Put away the drugs and enjoy the music!!!!!!!!!
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dj_stey_iz_ere
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 Posted - 2002/10/29 : 05:51:07
all i can say is ...
DRUGS ARE 2 GUD
is any1 else on the same level
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aznwasian
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Posted - 2002/10/29 : 06:22:12
Anything that makes you feel good will make you feel twice as bad the next morning.
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dj_stey_iz_ere
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Posted - 2002/10/29 : 07:21:40
when you have an E' u feal fine the next mornin explain that?  you cud do 20 if them the morinin after a pill
is any1 else on the same level
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toxic
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Posted - 2002/10/29 : 12:37:58
quote:
Originally posted by aznwasian:
Anything that makes you feel good will make you feel twice as bad the next morning.
i find that usually for me the *bad* feeling continues for another few days
quote:
Originally posted by dj_stey_iz_ere:
when you have an E' u feal fine the next mornin explain that? you cud do 20 if them the morinin after a pill
is any1 else on the same level
dont know what ur on ... but ur certainly on a *different* level to most ppl
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/30 : 02:17:14
quote:
Originally posted by toxic:
i find that usually for me the *bad* feeling continues for another few days
yeah sometimes i'm not fully recovered until late wednesday, which means i spend the rest of the week in a futile attempt to catch up on stuff i didn't get to do. it's as if the whole week's a write-off.
compare that to alcohol - even the most lethal hangover won't last any more than a day or so.
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dont know what ur on ... but ur certainly on a *different* level to most ppl
how very odd to hear *you* say that, toxic - i always considered you to be on a 'plateau' all your own
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Posted - 2002/10/30 : 11:10:17
quote:
Originally posted by strychnine:
how very odd to hear *you* say that, toxic - i always considered you to be on a 'plateau' all your own
uve been on the same *plateau* as me many times ... come to think of it, uve actually been on a higher *plateau* that even i havent reached
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