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Elipton
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 Posted - 2017/05/13 : 21:44:21
Can't believe people still take opinions made on this forum seriously tbh
I'll admit, I'm curious for skarr to post us a track that's well titled and not generic in his view.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 21:57:35
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Originally posted by Elipton:
Can't believe people still take opinions made on this forum seriously tbh
well ask Gammer, he takes so serious that he blocked most of us from Twitter before we even tweeted anything about him
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 05:02:45
the album is now up on discogs https://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ham-100/release/10281304
lets hope for pirates! ever since ive got a job ive been buying all music, but i think ill make an exeption for this
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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 07:42:08
Well I don't imagine there is a single track that compares to "the spark" and that cost me 99 pence
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 07:49:54
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Originally posted by DjZelous:
the album is now up on discogs https://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ham-100/release/10281304
lets hope for pirates! ever since ive got a job ive been buying all music, but i think ill make an exeption for this
if it was a vinyl, rleased 10 years ago and never to be re-released, I might've obligated.
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arpz
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 10:29:50
The best bit is about taking a vocal and "banging it over a standard ham sounding tune", aren't those ham sounding tunes EXACTLY what you'd be expecting? The mind boggles.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 18:07:09
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The best bit is about taking a vocal and "banging it over a standard ham sounding tune", aren't those ham sounding tunes EXACTLY what you'd be expecting? The mind boggles.
no, you'd be expecting life changing, ground breaking nu skool UK hardcore for ?100, what you got were 10, and I'm being kind here, at the VERY best average hardcore tracks.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 18:11:57
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Originally posted by DjZelous:
lets hope for pirates! ever since ive got a job ive been buying all music, but i think ill make an exeption for this
What a cunt.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 18:15:29
surely if you had the deep burning desire within yourself to make an album youd just make the album ? and not demand 10 grand up front ?
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 18:23:31
I've heard EVERY track on the album, and while the music may be well produced, there are as many deep thoughts and feelings involved with the actual music , as there are with the names of the tracks, dj ham you have made me feel physically sick. You must of sat there for weeks on end struggling over what to call a really deep , meaningful pieceofmusic, like 'yeah yeah yeah' or 'bounce to dis beat'
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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 20:48:13
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Originally posted by skarr:
I've heard EVERY track on the album, and while the music may be well produced, there are as many deep thoughts and feelings involved with the actual music , as there are with the names of the tracks, dj ham you have made me feel physically sick. You must of sat there for weeks on end struggling over what to call a really deep , meaningful pieceofmusic, like 'yeah yeah yeah' or 'bounce to dis beat'
People don't want to start sobbing into a box of Kleenix on the dancefloor, you dunce.
This is Hardcore, kiddo. It's party music. Ham has always been about driving dancefloor-rocking music. If you wanted music charged with feeling, you should have bought my At Peace album when it was sold 
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arpz
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Posted - 2017/05/14 : 21:22:02
At this point I don't think it's even worth engaging with him about this album - even the most vehement haters of this project must be thinking he's being a cock about it lol
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Elliott
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Posted - 2017/05/15 : 01:33:52
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Well I don't imagine there is a single track that compares to "the spark" and that cost me 99 pence
You were right. The Spark will probably turn out to be the tune of 2017 depressingly.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2017/05/15 : 01:47:54
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Originally posted by ViolonC:
The Ham Album is probably a very good product because
a) you payed 100 squid for just a few tracks. Would be a real shame if you don't like them, wouldn't it? As an old Ham fan you are though likely to appreciate the style what makes it easier.
b) you didn't pay 100 squid and now you aren't part of the 'cool kids club'. As you can't have it anyway what#s the point in liking it and if you don't like it why even have it? But there will be some mixes, right? In case you actually do like it?
I had a listen to arpz mix and wasn't blown away (maybe because of reason b) ) but it wasn't bad either. It is a little sad that the album won't be much of relevance unless key artists get inspired by the music, that though sounds dated (like Hixxys first tracks when he picked up producing again last year). But time will tell.
At the end a lot of people that picked the album up will be satisfied, certainly also because of reason a). :D
It wasn't dated enough for my liking.
Good point about people on both sides having a large stake in the issue though.
People who paid for it are more likely to look favourably on the album after such a hefty outlay regardless of their objective opinion of the tracks. People on the outside will, if all goes to plan, never have access to the full length tracks so they have plenty of reason to want to dismiss the album regardless of their objective opinion of the tracks. A lot of cognitive bias is involved from all directions.
I think I'm one of the only people who got in on the action and publicly expressed disappointment at the end result. That probably makes the project a success overall.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/15 : 08:01:09
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Originally posted by DjZelous:
the album is now up on discogs https://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ham-100/release/10281304
lets hope for pirates! ever since ive got a job ive been buying all music, but i think ill make an exeption for this
The issue with piracy I think centres on lost revenues to an artist. In this case where there's a limited run with no possibility of re-release, there is no loss of earnings to Ham certainly as the model doesn't allow for any more money to be made. It's not possible to obtain the product legally so what happens, happens.
From what I have heard, I wouldn't go to the trouble looking for it.
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