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Johnscardy
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 Posted - 2017/12/01 : 10:30:22
I've just ripped loads of CDs to itunes as Wavs only to discover that although the meta data shows in iTunes, it does not save to the file, therefore I can't see the meta data in serato or any other programe.
This also applies to wavs that I've downloaded and manually tagged in iTunes.
Any help or suggestions would be muchly appreciated as I am now old and also possibly a bit thick.
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PecheyTheLizard
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Posted - 2017/12/01 : 12:56:23
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Originally posted by Johnscardy:
I've just ripped loads of CDs to itunes as Wavs only to discover that although the meta data shows in iTunes, it does not save to the file, therefore I can't see the meta data in serato or any other programe.
This also applies to wavs that I've downloaded and manually tagged in iTunes.
Any help or suggestions would be muchly appreciated as I am now old and also possibly a bit thick.
I believe WAVs are a non taggable format for audio when it comes to things outside of databases like iTunes. You could however if you wanted to listen to higher quality tracks just convert all of your WAVs to FLAC as that is basically the lossless version of an mp3. FLACs are taggable and sound just as good as any WAV!
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/12/01 : 13:42:19
Wav's are taggable, but it's not a common practice (it's basicly injecting "foreign" data into the file)
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Johnscardy
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Posted - 2017/12/01 : 19:49:04
So is that what people tend to do as a rule? Convert thier WAVs to FLAC? I've noticed I can edit a WAVs tags in Serato, but now I'm wondering if it saves it to the file itself or just remembers it in Serato?
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/12/01 : 20:34:14
highly likely they store it in their own DB
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PecheyTheLizard
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Posted - 2017/12/01 : 21:54:12
I've tried multiple times to tag my WAVs but they never really worked lol, and this is with a tagging program so it never worked for me.i normally convert my WAVs when I just want to listen to them on the go.
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Guest
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Posted - 2017/12/02 : 04:23:11
drop some bar and buy https://www.dbpoweramp.com/
its the only flac compressor that is fully lossless and just put a wav into a flac container, then you can use mp3tag to convert files names into tags
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/12/03 : 08:00:47
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drop some bar and buy https://www.dbpoweramp.com/
its the only flac compressor that is fully lossless and just put a wav into a flac container, then you can use mp3tag to convert files names into tags
so you mean that FLAC's own compressor can't do lossless? you're mental :D
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Guest
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Posted - 2017/12/03 : 10:51:21
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Guest:
drop some bar and buy https://www.dbpoweramp.com/
its the only flac compressor that is fully lossless and just put a wav into a flac container, then you can use mp3tag to convert files names into tags
so you mean that FLAC's own compressor can't do lossless? you're mental :D
FLAC can do lossless, but the world is full of wankers, and don't include it as a option, not even in soundforge or all other wav editors, the only compressor that include full FLAC lossless is dbpoweramp
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/12/04 : 10:07:29
I doubt that, considering FLAC STANDS for "Free Lossless Audio Codec".
And to argue against "only" dbpoweramp having it, I am using EZ Audio Ripper (Easy CD-DA Extractor), which uses the official 1.3.2 enc_flac.dll from xiph, which encodes the audio file to 8-0 (best-fast) compression or uncompressed.
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Guest
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Posted - 2017/12/05 : 04:14:16
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Originally posted by Samination:
I doubt that, considering FLAC STANDS for "Free Lossless Audio Codec".
And to argue against "only" dbpoweramp having it, I am using EZ Audio Ripper (Easy CD-DA Extractor), which uses the official 1.3.2 enc_flac.dll from xiph, which encodes the audio file to 8-0 (best-fast) compression or uncompressed.
every program i have used in the past 15 years have compression levels 1 -> 10, not 0 for true lossless, true lossless which is a wav in a flac container is only in dbpoweramp
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/12/05 : 08:28:20
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Originally posted by Guest:
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Originally posted by Samination:
I doubt that, considering FLAC STANDS for "Free Lossless Audio Codec".
And to argue against "only" dbpoweramp having it, I am using EZ Audio Ripper (Easy CD-DA Extractor), which uses the official 1.3.2 enc_flac.dll from xiph, which encodes the audio file to 8-0 (best-fast) compression or uncompressed.
every program i have used in the past 15 years have compression levels 1 -> 10, not 0 for true lossless, true lossless which is a wav in a flac container is only in dbpoweramp
thus the uncompressed.
If you ****** want, I could compress a wav into 4 files, (0, 4, 8 and uncompressed in ez's settings), but to verify if the decoded version is the same, I need a tool to check it, and since you're so obstinate, provide me with such a tool. But if you can't, then I guess we can say "case closed, you suck"?
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PecheyTheLizard
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Posted - 2017/12/05 : 12:16:06
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Originally posted by Guest:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
I doubt that, considering FLAC STANDS for "Free Lossless Audio Codec".
And to argue against "only" dbpoweramp having it, I am using EZ Audio Ripper (Easy CD-DA Extractor), which uses the official 1.3.2 enc_flac.dll from xiph, which encodes the audio file to 8-0 (best-fast) compression or uncompressed.
every program i have used in the past 15 years have compression levels 1 -> 10, not 0 for true lossless, true lossless which is a wav in a flac container is only in dbpoweramp
I have a program called Free:ac that can convert WAV to FLAC perfectly with no compression, so I mean dbpoweramp isn't the only program capable of that
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Guest
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Posted - 2017/12/06 : 13:40:44
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Originally posted by PecheyTheLizard:
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Originally posted by Guest:
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Originally posted by Samination:
I doubt that, considering FLAC STANDS for "Free Lossless Audio Codec".
And to argue against "only" dbpoweramp having it, I am using EZ Audio Ripper (Easy CD-DA Extractor), which uses the official 1.3.2 enc_flac.dll from xiph, which encodes the audio file to 8-0 (best-fast) compression or uncompressed.
every program i have used in the past 15 years have compression levels 1 -> 10, not 0 for true lossless, true lossless which is a wav in a flac container is only in dbpoweramp
I have a program called Free:ac that can convert WAV to FLAC perfectly with no compression, so I mean dbpoweramp isn't the only program capable of that
yeah well, there is'nt alot of program that include the lossless part of FLAC, even though lossless means you loose no frequencies through the art of compression
with dbpoweramp you have the bonus of multiple encoding, with a track per CPU core, so your 3000 track collection takes 15 mins, to convert to FLAC if you have 8 core on the AMD FX 8300
dbpowerAMP better to have, especially if you lame and have terrabytes of samples and want to organise them in future DAW's
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Edited by - Guest on 2017/12/06 13:43:09 |
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Posted - 2017/12/06 : 14:02:07
never got the normalize plugin to work in dbpowerAMP, though
needs -12 RMS, so everything is touching the peak lines, or -10->-12db RMS
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Edited by - Guest on 2017/12/06 14:13:03 |
kazukism92
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Posted - 2017/12/06 : 15:18:09
Well, I use mp3tag for "force" the wav files to have a tag.
And even for convert WAV files using a CD, I use Foobar.
Just saying ;D.
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