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cruelcore1
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Malware = Virus, Spyware, Adware and similar stuff

I have made a virtual machine in my computer using VirtualBox, and then installed Windows XP into it. Why? Because I love to practice malware removals.

But then a problem occurred - getting a malware turned out to be seriously tough shite. I don't know what to do. I checked all the ads on various porn sites, wandered isohunt.com for fake cracks, wandered filestube.com, checked for malicious site links (all down), searched for malware separately... And what did I get?
1. A completely harmless malware from the installation of some cracked Adobe installation.
2. Fl Studio 9 fake cracked installation that ran for 15 minutes, installed a non-working malware (thats more like a potentially dangerous app) and took 99% of my virtual CPU during it's running time. And after that - NOTHING!

I have always known that malware is not as difficult to get as people think, and that it's mostly the case of bad luck while safely surfing the net, but for it to be THIS difficult, that was completely unexpected.


How the hell do I get a real dangerous malware for my virtual PC? Is there a malicious site, a fake ad, a fake download...? Anything, please, that installs dangerous malware for certain.


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lol I don't think i've ever seen someone looking for malware but I would just google something like "dangerous malware sites" and follow a link from that site

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Posted - 2011/08/17 :  01:03:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by SpiritWolf:
lol I don't think i've ever seen someone looking for malware but I would just google something like "dangerous malware sites" and follow a link from that site



Did it. A bunch of sites that were either deleted or expired.


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Though, I remember there was something about penis enlargement on some porn site I visited BEFORE I made the virtual machine. But now I just can't find it anymore.
Ads in general are trustworthy in most of the cases, and if not then they take you to money or ID fraud sites. Small number of them tricks you into downloading a malware so they are very hard 2 find.

EDIT: Even that software to see under people's clothes - it's a silly X-Ray cell-phone software you cannot download to ur PC but only send the link to ur cellphone.


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2011/08/17 01:08:36
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If you browse enough porn sites for long enough I'm sure you can't go wrong.



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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
If you browse enough porn sites for long enough I'm sure you can't go wrong.



^This. lol


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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
If you browse enough porn sites for long enough I'm sure you can't go wrong.



I tried this and that, even with porn sites, and I will try again. But it doesn't seem to be working! All ads on porn sites are trustworthy and advertising other porn sites.


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2011/08/17 01:10:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
If you browse enough porn sites for long enough I'm sure you can't go wrong.



Ha, best. advice. ever.

Seriously though, it's the only way without having the right connections.


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did a little poking around and found this site not sure if you have seen it yet http://www.securelist.com/en/

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Posted - 2011/08/17 :  01:28:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by SpiritWolf:
did a little poking around and found this site not sure if you have seen it yet http://www.securelist.com/en/



I have seen similar sites. Very useful information, and also removal methods. But they cannot help u finding the malware. U can copy/paste it's filename, title, sitename or threat name in Google, add anything u want or nothing at all, and you will only get sites with removal methods for googled malware.

I've been working on it for days, no useful solution found so far. I don't know what to do: I have browsed for cracks on isohunt.com, but not just any cracks but ones rated and commented as malware:
1. For malware to be completely functional you need to download the huge program setup file.
2. Seeders are either outnumbered or useless.
3. Crack is trustworthy but some antivirus/antispyware software recognized it as threat because they don't tolerate cracking commercial programs.

Even porn sites don't work. I have browsed MANY porn sites. I just Googled and opened many tabs, and then looked for "download" ads, then clicked on the videos, looked again... And if u refresh the page u dont get different ads. I used the following search terms for popular porn sites: "porn tube" and "hardcore tube". I have tested up to 20 sites I think.


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2011/08/17 01:32:09
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keygens arent malware. 99% of the alarms you get from antivirus software are false positives (or a way for them to stop you from using keygens)

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How do you know you got the malware or not? Perhaps your scanner is uber lame and didn't detect anything... I would be seriously careful, as if the malware start a network scan and finds an shared directory or has some other sort of TCP attack function it might escape your virtualbox and it will be all over the place.

They recently made this stupid law in Japan that you can goto jail for 4 years if you collect or keep a virus on your PC. The law is so loose that if your PC is infected and you know about it but don't do anything about it you are breaking the law.... a person has already been arrested over it... not sure how the hell they found him

knock at the door: "errr excuse he sir, random virus scan detection, hand over your PC"


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rofl, who needs AV systems, just order a japanese cop!

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quote:
Originally posted by silver:
How do you know you got the malware or not? Perhaps your scanner is uber lame and didn't detect anything... I would be seriously careful, as if the malware start a network scan and finds an shared directory or has some other sort of TCP attack function it might escape your virtualbox and it will be all over the place.

They recently made this stupid law in Japan that you can goto jail for 4 years if you collect or keep a virus on your PC. The law is so loose that if your PC is infected and you know about it but don't do anything about it you are breaking the law.... a person has already been arrested over it... not sure how the hell they found him

knock at the door: "errr excuse he sir, random virus scan detection, hand over your PC"



Yeah, I'm aware of that. But that's not a usual type of network so I dont think they expected it to spread out of VirtualBox. And according to what I learned from that fake FL Studio crack, malware are made simply and as soon as something goes wrong they can't keep up.

That law might seem stupid, but I actually like it. Malware can spread through the users ruining the nation. And locating people is easy:
Malware mostly connect themselves to the internet so that they could exchange required info with their creator. Japanese cyber-police then locates the malware's connection, checks the IP address, the time the person used it, and their ISP info. And all they have to do is get a warn to ask the user's ISP which person used that IP in that point of time.
I dunno whether they keep on checking if the malware is still there or immediately arrest and interrogate you. But in the end u get caught anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
rofl, who needs AV systems, just order a japanese cop!


Yeah, they should be the best. But its not like they didnt already try to locate hackers. Hackers have very nice security, they are hard to locate.

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keygens arent malware. 99% of the alarms you get from antivirus software are false positives (or a way for them to stop you from using keygens)


I wouldn't say 99% but I'd say at least 80% or 90%. But the problem is the malicious ones drop popularity and either get deleted or (if youre on t*rrent sites) run out of seeders.


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quote:
Originally posted by cruelcore1: made simply and as soon as something goes wrong they can't keep up.

That law might seem stupid, but I actually like it. Malware can spread through the users ruining the nation. And locating people is easy:
Malware mostly connect themselves to the internet so that they could exchange required info with their creator. Japanese cyber-police then locates the malware's connection, checks the IP address, the time the person used it, and their ISP info. And all they have to do is get a warn to ask the user's ISP which person used that IP in that point of time.
I dunno whether they keep on checking if the malware is still there or immediately arrest and interrogate you. But in the end u get caught anyway.



But it is unfeasible in any other country considering the main population centers of Japan are so dense with people per sq/m. Same goes with China.


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