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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2012/04/04 : 22:37:38
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
This track is HUUUUGE, don't know why people are bitching.
because they're bitches 
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Warnman
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Posted - 2012/04/04 : 22:57:50
This track is OK, but nothing impressive. It's still the best that Gammer has produced during the last 2 years.
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 05:12:16
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Breakbeat Jon wound me up the most with his comment.
The track is all about the atmosphere, the feeling. It adds that euphoric mood. People that re-portray feeling and emotion in their works are artists. Artists are people who produce what they feel, and they put the love and time into it to make it sound good to them. They work outside of what trends. This is traveling in the opposite direction to the industry and style of music that is generating the business - and thats another thing I like about this track. Its different to they tracks produced to make money. The people who produce those tracks are more businessmen than artists.
It pains me that art is slandered as it has been. Not often these days does a melodic track with such feeling be produced with the sheer talent of Gammer and the standard of studio he works with. This isnt a random person paying 100 an hour telling someone with a studio what to do hoping that his emotion is transfered into the track by someone else. This comes directly from Gammers core. Its against the current, and thats a BIG thing for hardcore. Everyones trying to sniff out the pennies, but this is different.
When someone says he'll be pissing while the most emotive hardcore ever made is playing is an insult.
When someone says that a track that is full of raw and fresh emotion is lifeless, they are clueless. Feeling lets us know we're alive, and the glee that translates out of this track is what gives it the energy - and therefore life.
I wish people could see it that way. I like to think of myself an artist too, so I empathise with Gammer when people ignore what this track is REALLY about.
I apologise for not having the same taste in hardcore, but it just didn't do anything for me. I don't like really long trancy breakdowns. They bore me sensless. I'm not one of the people who have moaned about the dub / electro thing either. Quite the opposite in fact, quite glad to see back of the trancy bore fest thats been hardcore for far to long. Going a bit over the top calling it the emotive hardcore ever made, found it very average, and when you've got to go, you might as well go when there a big long breakdown that makes you want to go to sleep.
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 05:25:44
It must be miserable thing to be a raver for you then. And it is emotive. How isnt it? :S
Are you even for real? A troll?
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 05:32:01
It's just not my thing, if people love it and go nuts for it, good for them. I like a lot of Gammers stuff, this just doesn't do for it for me. I'm guessing a lot of the stuff I think is amazing probably doesn't do it for a lot of people on here. That's fine by me, calling someone miserable because they don't like the same thing as you is pretty stupid. Music is subjective, and as a result, there will, like it or not, be differing opinions on it.
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D-tor
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 06:46:23
I like that song. Heartbeats <3
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 08:22:09
If people stood out more that they're talking subjectively, as their comments can be really harsh sometimes, there wouldn't be these fights and similar stuff.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 12:00:10
It was alright, as Karthy said - definitely a step in the right direction, I listened yesterday and I definitely made a slightly-impressed-that-wasn't-too-bad "Hmm!" noise, but as of today I can't actually remember anything about the track other than the fact there's a long-ish pause in it to build suspense.
Would people really be making as big a deal over this track if it wasn't Gammer? Probably not.
I'm hardly even interested in Hardcore anymore right now so take my opinion with a pinch of salt - but it's not instruments people want, the fans don't think like producers - they just want a slamming hardcore track they can hum on their way home from work and sing their lungs out to at a rave. It's not rocket science and no amount of top-notch production techniques and mastering can compensate for that. If you need good speakers to enjoy a track, it's probably not a good track to begin with.
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Dyzphazia
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 12:15:12
I'll reiterate a brief conversation I had with a friend regarding this.
Basically - I thought the breakdown(s) are astonishing. Absolutely spot on. The rest of the tune however? Sounds a bit lame IMO. lt sounds like a 2005/6 NEC rejection with slightly more modern production. It's not amazing well written either to be fair...
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Dyzphazia
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 12:16:36
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
I'm hardly even interested in Hardcore anymore right now so take my opinion with a pinch of salt - but it's not instruments people want, the fans don't think like producers - they just want a slamming hardcore track they can hum on their way home from work and sing their lungs out to at a rave. It's not rocket science and no amount of top-notch production techniques and mastering can compensate for that. If you need good speakers to enjoy a track, it's probably not a good track to begin with.
Word, word and word.
Totally agree.
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v-act
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 15:42:45
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
It was alright, as Karthy said - definitely a step in the right direction, I listened yesterday and I definitely made a slightly-impressed-that-wasn't-too-bad "Hmm!" noise, but as of today I can't actually remember anything about the track other than the fact there's a long-ish pause in it to build suspense.
Would people really be making as big a deal over this track if it wasn't Gammer? Probably not.
I'm hardly even interested in Hardcore anymore right now so take my opinion with a pinch of salt - but it's not instruments people want, the fans don't think like producers - they just want a slamming hardcore track they can hum on their way home from work and sing their lungs out to at a rave. It's not rocket science and no amount of top-notch production techniques and mastering can compensate for that. If you need good speakers to enjoy a track, it's probably not a good track to begin with.
That's a very valid point.
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Beeferchiefer
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 20:00:40
Well I love it.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 20:34:21
It's not the worst thing the guy has ever done and i can't knock the production quality but it's nothing like when he was at his best and you have to go back atleast 3 years for that. It's called nostalgia but it doesn't measure up to the sound it's supposed to reflect.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 21:17:41
Very good track, but sounds really really dated. Like something from 6 years ago.
Would be nice if he made it with a newer trance style riff. Like the tracks Recon and Demand or Sy and Technikore have made together.
Guess that's why it's called Nostalgia, is looking at the past. A step backwards perhaps.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2012/04/05 : 21:34:33
I'm keeping out of this one!
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