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Impact Junior Member
United Kingdom
148 posts Joined: Nov, 2004
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 03:02:54
Hi All - Been a while...
It?s been over 10 years since I retired from the hardcore scene, and many on this forum won?t remember me.
For those that do - I?ve been contemplating Producing Hardcore again, but honestly...I have no idea of the state of the scene currently. Are there still hardcore events? Is there even still a following? Questions I?d hope you?d help me answer...
For context: I left the hardcore scene in 2008 to pursue other ventures. I?ve been successful in those other ventures, but no matter what I think about next - it always brings me back to hardcore. This isn't about making money (never was), and would purely because of love/ passion, because hardcore is in me, it?s part of me, and will always be part of me!
So...my questions for you all are:
1. Is there still a market?
2. What is hardcore in 2020?
3. What would you like Hardcore to be/ sound like? (most important)
4. Would you welcome a comeback?
Open to all feedback, positive and negative - I?ve had my share of both
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 06:34:36
1. Probably not
2. Not very good
3. Like you made it before you left
4. Oh yes indeed but like you made it before you left. Pretty please!!
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 06:52:45
I cant really give much insight into what hardcore is in 2020. Probably most on this forum who actively post are in the older generation and not so much into the current scene or whatever is left of it. I would love to hear some new bits from you if it was anything like what you made in the past.
Sunrise, Someday, summer sun are a few of my favourites of yours and Id love to hear some new material along those lines.
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
999 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 08:35:18
1- I'm not sure at this stage.
2- there are still some good producers (hptg music and Al storms label). Most is 160bpm hardstyle knock off which is the latest iteration since the dark days of 2012.
3- I don't want us to reply the past but what has always drawn me is hard and happy (hence why I now follow restyle and Korsakoff from the Dutch scene. Or powerstomp when it was around). You once released a bootleg called "the finest" and while I wasn't keen on the sample, the track structure and flow I loved and optimised what I loved about that era.
4- I would love a comeback and I would hope you would do your own thing rather than fall into the sound of others like quite a few disappointing returns where we hoped for a change only for them to sound like everyone else.
Overall it's just great to know you are ok and I'm glad we heard from you.
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Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
5,481 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 11:10:28
Welcome back! I remember you from when you was here before!
As for Hardcore in 2020 that is a good question and the same one asked for the past few years but it is quiet over the past decade now.
I am actually following the UK Hard House scene these days and there is some proper raw tunage coming out at only 150BPM. Hardcore has a long way to go if it wants to reach the level that it had in the past or what Hard House has now but there are still people producing and a few revival scenes going on but it has been quite a few years since anyone embraced the scene like they used to
Advather Senior Member
United States
256 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/04/25 : 16:28:14
1. No idea. There's no scene where I live.
2. Sorting through heaps of garbage to find a track I like enough to buy.
3. 2001-2005
4. Yes! I also wouldn't mind digital releases of the old stuff if possible, because it costs a lot to ship records over from the UK.
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Mickey Init Senior Member
United Kingdom
393 posts Joined: Oct, 2012
Posted - 2020/04/26 : 19:43:38
Would be great if you could put some new stuff out as well as re-release Infexious Audio.
One idea might be to team up with Hardcore Underground to make it happen. That way we could perhaps get a Fracus & Darwin remix of Someday.
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Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
736 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2020/04/26 : 19:47:14
dutch hardcore/gabba is just called hardcore if you goto any hardstyle event's in the uk or anywhere else in the world, while uk hardcore event's are meaningless, and aren't part of the bigger picture when it comes to hardcore
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/04/26 : 20:48:03
some Impact freeform from before you left would be nice :)
Also, don't listen to Guest. He's just a loony from USH
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Happy, UK Hardcore, Freeform, Makina and Gabber http://samination.se/ ---------------------------------------------
Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
736 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2020/04/27 : 07:42:34
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
some Impact freeform from before you left would be nice :)
Also, don't listen to Guest. He's just a loony from USH
its all you that are loons and living in the dark age, most people who used to post on here make hardstyle, it has alot more events in the uk, and be why darren styles started doing hardstyle
the same as alot of people still play on kniteforce.fm or whatever
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/04/27 : 08:56:04
quote:Originally posted by Guest:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
some Impact freeform from before you left would be nice :)
Also, don't listen to Guest. He's just a loony from USH
its all you that are loons and living in the dark age, most people who used to post on here make hardstyle, it has alot more events in the uk, and be why darren styles started doing hardstyle
the same as alot of people still play on kniteforce.fm or whatever
Most people? I onl know of 3 that has gone to make hardstyle, and two of them made a career out of it while on just made it for a bit of fun.
The rest? They went even further back and make 90-95 styled hardcore/breakbeat hardcore
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Samination, Swedish Hardcore DJ
Happy, UK Hardcore, Freeform, Makina and Gabber http://samination.se/ ---------------------------------------------
Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
736 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2020/04/27 : 09:52:22
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Guest:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
some Impact freeform from before you left would be nice :)
Also, don't listen to Guest. He's just a loony from USH
its all you that are loons and living in the dark age, most people who used to post on here make hardstyle, it has alot more events in the uk, and be why darren styles started doing hardstyle
the same as alot of people still play on kniteforce.fm or whatever
Most people? I onl know of 3 that has gone to make hardstyle, and two of them made a career out of it while on just made it for a bit of fun.
The rest? They went even further back and make 90-95 styled hardcore/breakbeat hardcore
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