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christy
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 Posted - 2005/01/28 : 19:24:29
i just brought my first set of decks and was wonderin how to beat match proplary
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Blue Frequency
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Posted - 2005/01/28 : 22:45:50
lots of practice
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 00:50:48
Yup have to agree with the_fourth on that one.
Go to http://www.quoshrecords.com/ check out the videos section, and d/l the mixing tips from Sy, very usefull if yr just starting out.
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 01:44:22
http://legalize.org.il/asp/bpm.htm
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I use this when I can't seem to get a mix down-pat. Eventually I will be able to do it without this, and I always need to adjust from this, but it really helps :P
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TypeR
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 01:59:19
i've never used a video, just practice practice.
don't stand and stare, just kick your legs in the air
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 02:44:29
quote:
Originally posted by djritalin:
i've never used a video,
Me either, i finaly masterd it after two years or so of hammering my decks, then i discoverd the videos on quosh 
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nateh
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 07:24:01
LLLLLOOOOTTTTTSSSS of practice. I caught on quick after 8 months but then I noticed that it's cuz I practiced 5 hours a day almost everyday. Many many nights of being pissed off but you'll get the hang of it. It sometimes takes some people 2 years at the most. Just got to be very gentle when "throwing in" and always keep your hand on the pitch control. Ears have to get used to the two sounds at once, now that drove me nuttso!
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nateh
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 07:25:47
Greatest feeling when you finally get it for the first time. Then you know it's not impossable.
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Frieza
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 11:50:00
I have to echo what everyone else has said -- lots and lots of practice!
If you're REALLY stuck you can get two of the same record, and you will know they're at the same tempo (provided your turntables arent odd and have different 0% pitch adjustments!)
And use them to practice starting records off at the RIGHT time. I didn't do this, but it is certainly a way of learning how to start records off in time accurately, plus you'll figure out quite easily where to start/stop a record (i.e. not randomly in the middle of a bar!)
Once you got this down ijust add a record with different BPM into the fray and experiment at getting the record in time.
It's kinda hard to describe how to differentiate which record is going faster or which is going slower, and I listen to different bits on the records.
Sometimes I used just the kick drum to make sure its in time. If the records have a snare drum, usually these sound a bit different from one another so I can tell iwhich is which. Finally, if I am really stuck I compare crashes (which usually come every 8th or 16th bar)
If you hear a kick/snare/crash too come earlier on the one you're mixing than the other records, then the record is going faster than the other.
If you hear the kick/snare/crash come too late then its going too slow.
If its going too slow, push the record and/or shove the pitch up real high until the kicks / snare are matched again.
If it is going too fast then either touch the middle of the record (if you're using belt drives, this is probably your best bet) or touch the side of the platter really lightly (this usually stops belt drives totally) and/or move the pitch down until its back in time.
The process of doing this;
hearing and differentiating if the record is too fast or two slow and being able to adjust the record accurately to be in time is all a matter or practice.
Like these guys said already it is that process which takes a WHOLE LOAD of practice. It took me ages and ages to do it, now I can get pretty flakey mixes off, but thats because my turntables are belt drive. IF you're using direct drives which have a descent amount of torque, you're already at an advantage because once you do get a mix off it should be pretty smooth, whereas if you're using something like my setup, you're left wondering if you genuinely messed up, or if you're turntables are being funny (usually its the latter!)
So go up to your decks, throw on a couple of records and mess with them every day for at LEAST an hour or two. Keep doing it, it may get frustrating at times where you can't get a mix off at all, but persevere and eventually you will train your ear and develop a technique for beatmatching!!!
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djsytronik
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 18:22:14
practice
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Dave Tee
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 18:25:40
Well this could take ages to explain but I'll try to be brief ;-)
Heres what ur trying to do (off recess, hehe!) Instead of:
BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOBOOM
BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOBOOM
U've got to make it like:
BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOBOOM
BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOOM--BOBOOM
where the beats overlap perfectly.
As other ppl have mentioned, practise with 2 identical records so u know they're the right speed, I had 2 copies of Driftwood - Freeloader and mixed between them again and again.
When I got my first dex I had no clue what to do and after about a week a friend who had been mixin for ages gave me the best bit of advice and I did my first decent mix almost straight away.
The tip was "count the beats".
Get to the first beat of record A, and leave it there. Have record B playing.
Basically, in most dance music, you have a section of 32 beats (then a funky sound or sample of some sort) then another section of 32 beats.
Wait till the last beat of the 32 beat section, and when the new 32 beat section starts, start record A playing.
Because they're the same song they'll be at the same speed they should be in time, if they sound a bit out of sync I started "pushing" or "nudging" record A till it was in sync.
This helped me to understand when 1 record was ahead of the other and after a few days I was moving the pitch control instead of touching the record.
Once you know what to do, its just a case of doing it... PRACTICE, PRACTICE and a bit more PRACTICE.
(Thought I was gonna be brief, lol!)
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bemaniraver
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 18:45:55
some good stuff here: http://music.hyperreal.org/dj/AVH/
when i started, i couldnt mix worth shit, until i got 2 identical records, then i realized this stuff is possible.
Try and get 2 records of about the same BPM, usually evolution 55-70 is about the same speed (but they are slightly off to give you something to do).
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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 20:54:25
it helps if youve already played an instrument before or can read music
you'll better understand beats, measures etc.
and of course, as everyone has said
practice practice practice
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djtommyrenegade
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Posted - 2005/01/29 : 21:56:33
lock urself away from the world and practise every minute u have :)
i was pretty quick of the mark at gettin beatmatchin down, could do it 99% of the time within 3months
u get the odd record which will drift no matter how hard you try eg Scott Brown - turn up the music (B&S Mix)
but meh just practise
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christy
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Posted - 2005/02/01 : 17:35:46
do you just keep messin around with the pitch till you get it right
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