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silver
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 Posted - 2001/04/08 : 03:46:59
Rotis: what's Innercity ?
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Sander
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Posted - 2001/04/08 : 05:24:52
Innercity is a dutch dance event by ID&T. The last event (30-12-2000) was with I believe 40.000 people. The styles are trance, club , techno with dj's like paul van dyk, sven vath, tiesto, seb fontaine marco v etv.
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silver
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Posted - 2001/04/08 : 08:46:35
ID&T does techno? Hmmm interesting...
damn 40 000 people is a big party!
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Sander
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Posted - 2001/04/08 : 10:45:11
http://www.innercity.nl/lineup.htm here you can see the styles/dj's . Speedy J was also spinning techno, some people saying Speedy j - Pullover was the first gabber record.
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Rotis
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Posted - 2001/04/08 : 12:25:20
Uhm.. If you check out that video (http://www.eurodanceworld.com/video/video0104.rm) you can hear some dude (actually I think it's Tiësto) saying something like "Just being here with all these 85000 people inside like this is amazing enough!" But maybe he says something with 40k. It sure sounds like 85000... But that's a bit too much maybe. =)
And yeah.. ID&T moved over to Trance/Techno just for the money. I heard that they dumped the hardcore-scene totally but Sander says they're into it still... At least I know that Buzz Fuzz's label (BRZRK or what ít's called) took over Thunderdome. Dunno what happend to the Happy Hardcore records.. The latest one was Happy Hardcore 9... Those records are so cool... Not regular Happy Hardcore. I love them sooo much!
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Edited by - Rotis on 08 Apr 2001 12:46:53
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xamulink
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Posted - 2001/04/08 : 19:54:05
whoa, ... I guess you guys kinda got off tha subject...but anyways...I should ask is that 40,000 party tha biggest one or are you guys sure tha 80,000 is tha biggest...??? any idea when and where was tha biggest party ever?
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Sander
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Posted - 2001/04/09 : 02:51:35
I just listen to it and he said 35.000 (not tiesto btw) Maybe sensation is the biggest (also by ID&T) In the amsterdam ArenA (stadium) I believe 40.000 people. But I don't really like those parties, to commercial for me
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Rotis
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Posted - 2001/04/09 : 10:26:20
Aaaah ok.. Sorry Sander.. =/.. My fault.. didn't really listen that well.. hmm so it wasn't Tiesto? But he talks later on, right?
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Sander
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Posted - 2001/04/09 : 11:07:48
Don't know :) But I hate tiesto.. Ok, I have some records of him.. but in the past he was also making some hardcore (very bad I believe) but then he wasn't into hardcore anymore and he said bad things about it.. Don't know the real story anymore..
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Ok, tiesto was spinning in the past also hardcore (5-6-7 years ago? don't know) but it gave him proberly not a succes so then he is going into trance. Ok, no problem but then he said that gabber for children is.
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Watch at own risk http://members.ams.chello.nl/e.orgut/icons/thijs02.gif
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Edited by - Sander on 09 Apr 2001 11:23:02
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Rotis
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Posted - 2001/04/10 : 13:46:00
Bah screw Tiësto... His music sux too..
What about that pic btw..?
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Sander
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Posted - 2001/04/10 : 14:41:39
The pi(c)(g) is tiesto :)
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Posted - 2001/04/10 : 16:50:01
LOL, he ain't to cute is he? ^_^
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Posted - 2001/04/10 : 17:35:39
id hafta say no soren. . .lol
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Posted - 2003/03/17 : 03:26:26
no way its never going any where
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Posted - 2003/03/17 : 04:47:58
Commercialisation and popular should be considered two different things. I would like the scene to be more popular and more visable yet I don't want it to be commercialised. HHC could become mainstream over niight if say Britney, J-lo, Christina or say Justin took to it. It would be very popular but for the wrong reasons. On from that it would be exploited used and dumped when no longer usual. As an underground Prodigy fan from the 'Android', 'One Family' days this is my major gripe with them. They were quoted as saying 'we no longer want kids with white gloves and glowsticks to follow them.' It was those 'Kids' that got them popular and to then say they were 'Techno Punks' seems to me shallow and commercialised. However once 'Fame' strikes who would want to lose it, or the money that comes with it.
HHC is a way of not just style but life. To those who are into it are predominatly not concerned with fashion but statement; Statement is a difficult thing for the 'mainstream' to accept. Companies own music, and the last thing the Industry wants is old style youth rebellion music. It causes trouble. Stars and fans alike are unpredictable and that is not something business is comfortable with.
Today's Idols are a sorry state of affairs but I would guess sort of pleasing to parents from a genoration that had serious artists and guru's (Hendrix, Pink Floyd,Zepplin, Stones,Beatles? T Rex) At their age it was alright that they did it but now grown up they would prefer younger ppl not to do the same. Sorry but ex-hippies are the worst. Look at 'Starbucks' , 'Ben and Jerry's' or Bill Gates and ask yourself, seriously, is that what I want to happen to my favorite music?
Like alternative comedy in the uk that was so strong in the 80's, only now is a new alternative growing BECAUSE it was assimilated in to main stream TV.
I admit my heart thumps for joy when I hear hardcore on radio or see it on TV. I love to be surprised when someone else uses it when I didn't exspect it. However for hardcore to go mainstream means it will be used by Pepsi and Coke to advertise a World Cup or some such big events forever. Do you really want it to be flogged to death?
The difference I hope between today and the 60s is they reverted back to the making money dreams of parents. Today I hope you all realise you need money to live but we don't need exploit something and tred on other values to get want we want, namely money. My quality of life is more important than my wealth thus Hardcore is part of that rather than a tool to be used to make me rich. If it ever becomes that tool I have died, I am like an ex-hippie, I will be an ex-raver.
Until then may the scene turn over, stay away from F&F, and continue to be strong, happy and unique. It will cease to be unique if it is mainstream, it will become the norm and I turned to Hardcore to get away from that Sh!t.
As Bill Hicks (a prophet, comedian and hero) pointed out to Vanilla Ice
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Paula Abdul
'SUCK SATAN'S C**K!'
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'Back again so soon?'
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will underground music EVER go mainstream???
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