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icex
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say u show up and are about to play ... your like the 3rd hhc dj. what if the previous djs played all the tracks u were gonna play what do u do? do u communicate or something so this doesnt happen or anyone spins what they want?

say some tracks were played again are u suppose to skip those and just not play any of the ones the perivious ones played?


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TypeR
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Posted - 2005/08/21 :  05:39:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TypeR's homepage
well, either you can anthem bash your set or just communicate with the other dj's. i for one don't mind hearing the same song more than once a night. but i prefer the more professional approach and communicate, and show up early for the show so you can do so


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Brian K
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I usually try to get an idea of what kind of stuff the djs ahead of me are going to play by asking what labels/producers of stuff they are going to play.

there is nothing wrong with hearing a song more than once in a night however, hearing the song 3 or more times gets annoying

if I hear a song played and I was going to play that, I usually try and chop it up or mix it in better than the person before me did =P


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DarrenJ
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Well earlier this year I heard the same song twice in 2hours, which was pretty bad.
I really dislike hearing the song twice

icex thats why dj's take a cd folder full of cd's/bag full of records
I doubt they could play every song you wanna play, esp since everyone has different tastes (unless your a non talented anthem whore)


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icex
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Posted - 2005/08/21 :  17:55:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit icex's homepage
if i were playing anywhere i think i would take 100 records with me. is that 2 much?

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Posted - 2005/08/21 :  18:27:00  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Sean Apollo's homepage
You HAVE to watch the crowd and see how they are reacting, this is one of the single most importan things. If you are playing upfront new trancy stuff and people arnt digging and there hands arnt in the air, throw in a nice seduction style (old school influenced) pianoy track. If they react better to that then you know you should be playing older stuff and more cheeze.

I noticed towrds the ends of sets the crownd likes it hard so somthing smart would be to throw down somthing like crackwhore or 3000 cycles then drop a gabba track.

thats just MY personal experiance and it might be diffrent for other people.

Bring tons of records and icex your awnser is if they play somthing you were going to play, do somthing diffrent. Change up the mood of the party to create more energy. Be original.


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Posted - 2005/08/21 :  21:48:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SixFeet's homepage
although i ain't a DJ or even know how to i'd just suggest to go prepared with a list of songs you want to play that would easily take up the whole set, if they get played tick them off and choose another, basically variety is the key and so is coming prepared so take a hell of alot of records so you don't end up stuck with nothing to play

my advice, probably rubbish advice though


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having a setlist could make for a shitty night, as you don't play for yourself, but you play for the crowd. Programming a set before you play it makes your set sound old and played out if people go to see you whenever you play out. It's not all about your songs, but rather the way you play them, thats why I don't think it's a big deal to hear the same song more than once, just not set after set.

Have a varied box that way you can put down a special set that isn't full of songs that everyone may play, or become made of your own sound that way other dj's may build a respect for you and not trash your set by playing every tune thats in your box.

what I have done is put out mixes for other people to hear so when I play with other dj's they know what styles to expect from me so that they can do their own thing and let me run my own show without having to worry about my shit getting cained all night before i can play it. I like to keep it upfront, buy promos the day they come out and keep my set fresh so that I am playing music that other dj's may not have their hands on yet. Don't tell other people that are in your peer group of dj's all your secrets and keep your box special so that YOU are the dj that people come to see, and have fun doing it.

Don't fall into the cheezy dj catagory and put energy into your set so that it appears that you are putting hard work into your set even though you are doing somethin that to you is kinda easy, that way you build a great crowd response to the tunes that you are playing and build up your set tune after tune after tune and the blammo take your set in a forward motion and set the party on fire.

those are my two cents, maybe it helped, maybe not, either way. Kill the dancefloor, keep it real, keep it happy, and keep it hardcore.


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quote:
Originally posted by icex:
if i were playing anywhere i think i would take 100 records with me. is that 2 much?




No, not at all.

It helps to have a good, varied selection of tunes with you so you can be prepared for anything!

Also, bear in mind that a lot of DJ's go to events just to play their set with no idea of what others before them might have played, so repeating tunes is sometimes unavoidable.

The only way you can avoid playing the same as others is to be at the gig all night with a large selection of records (or play first)!

And a good set is a good set - whatever you play.


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quote:
Originally posted by SixFeet:
although i ain't a DJ or even know how to i'd just suggest to go prepared with a list of songs you want to play that would easily take up the whole set, if they get played tick them off and choose another, basically variety is the key and so is coming prepared so take a hell of alot of records so you don't end up stuck with nothing to play

my advice, probably rubbish advice though



Not bad but see, you shouldn't plan your tracklist too far in advance because in the case that crowd doesnt like what your playing you need to be able to take your set in any direction and still sound good. Even when I practice in my basement and try to make up a tracklist (I am not very good) I still find myself not following it, you will play what the crowd likes and what you think sounds best, hope this advice helps :)



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icex
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Posted - 2005/08/22 :  19:39:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit icex's homepage
good advice everyone. i dont make track lists but i have a good idea of what tracks i wanna play, the style, and what my possible changes are, all in my head.



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silver
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Posted - 2005/08/23 :  09:44:34  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage
I always get to the gig early, have a beer or two, listen to the other DJ's, see what they are playing and what the crowd is into as most crowds are always a little different... If the DJ before you drops a tune you wanted to play, I would probally not play it in my set but if the track was really killer and the crowd really went off I would probally play it towards the end of my set anyway.

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SEEKY
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Posted - 2005/08/23 :  17:14:12  Show profile  Send a private message
A basic record box holds at least 80 vinyls it would be quite rare for the djs before you to play every tune you've got with you!

Djs before me have played tunes I was gonna play and if this happens I wouldnt play them, unless as Silver says the tune went down a storm then you know the crowd arnt gonna mind hearing it again.


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Posted - 2005/08/23 :  17:46:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 8's homepage
Everyone already said what I was going to say so I'll just say something quick. It's always nice to have sort of a tracklist before you play. For me, it helps me know the tunes that go together and stuff. Another thing is be original. If you have a sweet idea for a sample or some scratching, defo don't be afraid to do it. It makes you sound a lot better if you just throw some crazy stuff in.

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Play the flip sides !! next time if you are the 3rd hhc deejay try to bring stuff you don't think the other deejays will have !! nothing sucks more than a party with shooting star over and over !!

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Posted - 2005/08/23 :  21:26:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit JesterDJ's homepage
i'd drop a mozart classic in the middle of the set just to spice things up a bit

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