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-RAVIN9- Senior Member
Australia
393 posts Joined: Jun, 2005
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 11:33:16
Hey guys.. im just curious, is this going to be another one of them 1-2 minutes per track mixes?
Im really looking forward to hardcore heaven 2 being released although i dont wanna be hearing a good tune being mixed out of or ending after 2 minutes, and since Kevin Energy managed to fit 24 tracks onto one cd within 75-80 minutes, i think this is more likely to happen.
Loz_e Advanced Member
United Kingdom
772 posts Joined: Oct, 2004
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 11:41:23
yes this is likley, but i think it is quite good. The thing with freeform is that some of the tracks can get repetitive if they go on for the full duration, so i think 1 - 2 minute tracks are quite good. Although i dont like them too short, like track 1 of sharkeys mix on B14, its like 1 and a hlaf mins long. They gotta be 2.30mins long at least!!
bulby_g Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,205 posts Joined: Apr, 2004
430 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 11:43:57
Personally I agree with RAVIN9 I hate it when people just mix a tiny bit of a tune it works some times but not for a whole mix. Looking at all them tracks being squeezed onto 1 cd I would say this is gonna be the case, bit disappointing IMO.
whittle1 Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,191 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
25 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 12:37:49
quote:Originally posted by -RAVIN9-:
Hey guys.. im just curious, is this going to be another one of them 1-2 minutes per track mixes?
Im really looking forward to hardcore heaven 2 being released although i dont wanna be hearing a good tune being mixed out of or ending after 2 minutes, and since Kevin Energy managed to fit 24 tracks onto one cd within 75-80 minutes, i think this is more likely to happen.
Tell me what you all think?
Thanks!
I hope it is, freeform sounds much better when the tracks are only a few minutes long and there's lots of them. When Kevin Energy does this, you usually get a decent variety of sound.
Denile Advanced Member
United Kingdom
704 posts Joined: Mar, 2004
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 12:51:25
but look at it from another point of view.
more mixes = more tracks = more tuneage overall!!
kev is mixing like this to keep the adrenalin flowing, and i think it works!! it also allows more opportunity for up n coming producers to get their tracks featured on albums such as this....
bulby_g Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,205 posts Joined: Apr, 2004
430 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 13:10:38
quote:Originally posted by Denile:
but look at it from another point of view.
it also allows more opportunity for up n coming producers to get their tracks featured on albums such as this....
Thats true and is one plus side of it but i still dont like this type of mix. I like to apreciate whole tracks and you just cant do this when you hear:
mix in,
one break from the tune,
mix out,
you just dont hear enough of the tune, just my opinion though.
yaddam205 Advanced Member
United States
1,219 posts Joined: Dec, 2004
53 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 13:29:20
quote:Originally posted by Denile:
but look at it from another point of view.
more mixes = more tracks = more tuneage overall!!
Good point, so this will be more like a sampler for people new to hardcore, meaning they can hear 24 diff traxs and then find the names easily, but not good for people like us, how know all the shit already, bah
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DJ Mole Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,505 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:12:21
yeah its 2 minute tracks again but his scratching anc cutting makes up for it as always plus it lets you hear the main parts of tracks :D
kathryn Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,520 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:17:21
quote:Originally posted by bulby_g:
Personally I agree with RAVIN9 I hate it when people just mix a tiny bit of a tune it works some times but not for a whole mix. Looking at all them tracks being squeezed onto 1 cd I would say this is gonna be the case, bit disappointing IMO.
Yeah i know it does my head in to cos ur just gettin into the thune then wham! the next 1 comes creepin in to soon!
DJ Vibalrush Average Member
United Kingdom
233 posts Joined: Oct, 2003
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:27:24
quote:Originally posted by DJ Mole:
yeah its 2 minute tracks again but his scratching anc cutting makes up for it as always plus it lets you hear the main parts of tracks :D
Kev's well good at cuttting n scratching, i cant wait to hear his mix, i look forward to the freeform CD's more than the upfront ones now.
As for only playin 2 minutes of a tune, as already said theres good and bad sides to the argument, wish he would played out the whole of the first tune on HH1 though (Fly With The Beat), what a screamer that is!!
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bulby_g Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,205 posts Joined: Apr, 2004
430 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:28:21
quote:Originally posted by DJ Mole:
yeah its 2 minute tracks again but his scratching anc cutting makes up for it as always plus it lets you hear the main parts of tracks :D
tbh I thought some of his cutting was a bit pants in the last cd sounded out of place on a couple of mixes.
Chris B Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,964 posts Joined: Dec, 2003
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:33:20
Not normally too keen on over quick mixin but i've got a thunderdome mix somewhere with about 46 tracks in one mix and somehow make it sound amazin.
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SixFeet Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,285 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 16:57:02
i think it worked well on HH1 for him, and not every song is like 2 minutes, most of them were the first 7 songs then it got longer from then on, 11 tracks were under 3 minutes, the rest were generally around 4
quote:Originally posted by DJ Vibalrush:
wish he would played out the whole of the first tune on HH1 though (Fly With The Beat), what a screamer that is!!
yup that pissed me off a bit, it is a belter, there is a fair few on his mix that i loved, definately looking forward to his mix on this far more than sy and brisk's
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Loz_e Advanced Member
United Kingdom
772 posts Joined: Oct, 2004
Posted - 2005/08/24 : 17:31:18
yeh kev's mix will do it for me. i am loving the freeform stuff much more than upfront these days.
I love the cutting snd scratching kev does but i must agree that some on the cutting he was doing on HH1 was abit off, overall it still sounded quality. I would like him to use more than one scratch 2, in HH1 i believe he used the same scratch all the way through, abit of a mixture wouldnt go a miss!!!!
And as for fly with the beat - TUNE!!! got it on vinyl - love it!! Promises was another gooden!
i like his tunes........ yea i noticed on HH1, his cd had alot of tracks on it and some were quite short.... whats the definition of "freeform" as opposed to hardcore?
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