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Audio X
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 Posted - 2005/10/24 : 03:57:19
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
i'm getting bored of your clown avartar please remove it
We're getting bored of you. Please remove yourself.
As for money - The payment we receive for our music allows us to put more effort back into the scene, ie buying better equipment, etc, also giving us a source of income that allows us to spend a little more time working on music instead of other things. It's just the way things are. At the end of the day, even though we enjoy making the music, it's a business. It may not feel like it sometimes, but it is. Even if you put your love of the music first and focus on it more than anything, that business side of things will always be lurking in the background.* If you think music and money should be separate, then you're either very naiive or very ignorant.**
*This only applies to artists who sell their music.
**If you give away music, more power to you, but more than likely you've got another source of income funding your passion. Therefore music still feeds off of money.***
***If you're a kid who doesn't have a job and pirates everything, ignore this entire post.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 03:59:59
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Originally posted by Audio Ecstacy:
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
i'm getting bored of your clown avartar please remove it
buying better equipment,
huh? back in the day, all you needed was an atari and a s1000 and it some of the best ****ing music i've ever heard.
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Audio X
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 04:05:20
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
huh? back in the day, all you needed was an atari and a s1000 and it some of the best ****ing music i've ever heard.
You still had to buy those mate. And there was better equipment then, too. Not everyone back then used an atari and an s1000. They still had other synthesizers, drum machines, samplers, processors, etc. that were more suited for the job. But then again, you probably slagged off the people that used those too were ten years old at the time and knew nothing about what went on behind the scenes. So stop complaining about missing the old days when you never experienced them to begin with.
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Edited by - Audio X on 2005/10/24 05:43:23 |
ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 04:12:47
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
huh? back in the day, all you needed was an atari and a s1000 and it some of the best ****ing music i've ever heard.
Image removed politely and out of respect for Silver.
You're an idiot.
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Edited by - ryg0r on 2005/10/24 07:19:36 |
Kryptic
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 04:46:56
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
huh? back in the day, all you needed was an atari and a s1000 and it some of the best ****ing music i've ever heard.
Times have changed. Thing are alot more expensive then back then. Every program usually does only one thing in a long line of jobs during the creation of song. Vocals, Synths, Drums, Mixing, Master and more are usually are done on all seperate machines just for those in a real professional studio. A studio in my town spent $15,000 on just sound proofing the studio. It costs real money. Now we have people that can do everything on one or two different pieces of equipment and coem with quailty tunes and more power to them. Quailty = Money. and if your running a kick ass song but it isn't mastered right or something it doesn't sound excatly right. I spent a year in a studio mixing and recording. And the stuff we had wasn't that great but it wasn't cheap. A good production costs alot of money to produce, but there is exceptions to the rules, but not many people have a old crap dell computer and FL 1 and can make quailty tunes.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 04:49:25
huh? it's not the sound it's the 'feeling' - writing a track on 2 shitty second hand machines gives it that lovely student DIY feeling which hardcore was (and should be forever) be about back in the days.
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Kryptic
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 05:45:12
correct me if I am wrong but, isn't there more fans of hardcore now then there ever was? People are still buying lots of hardcore stuff, now even commericals for some of it. I think now is the time for hardcore if ever. B and S and SB and all those most be doing something right.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 05:47:42
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Originally posted by Kryptic:
correct me if I am wrong but, isn't there more fans of hardcore now then there ever was? People are still buying lots of hardcore stuff, now even commericals for some of it. I think now is the time for hardcore if ever. B and S and SB and all those most be doing something right.
Quoted for freakin absolute truth.
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Audio X
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 05:51:34
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
huh? it's not the sound it's the 'feeling' - writing a track on 2 shitty second hand machines gives it that lovely student DIY feeling which hardcore was (and should be forever) be about back in the days.
And how do you know this? By 1995 a lot of tunes were written with far more than just two machines. Even in 1992 there was hardcore being made that was far more technically advanced than just being made with an atari and a sampler. Listen to The Prodigy - Experience (which pushed the boundaries of production back then and still sounds excellent) and Altern-8 - Full on Mask Hysteria and you'll see what I mean. These two albums are considered classics.
It's not the equipment that gives music that feeling. It's the soul that you give it. If you can't feel the soul of today's music-- I've said it before and I'll say it again-- GO MAKE YOUR OWN AND PUT IT OUT.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 05:55:52
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Originally posted by Audio X:
And how do you know this? By 1995 a lot of tunes were written with far more than just two machines. Even in 1992 there was hardcore being made that is far more technically advanced than just being made with two machines. Listen to The Prodigy - Experience and Altern-8 - Full on Mask Hysteria and you'll see what I mean. These two albums are considered classics.
It's not the equipment that gives music that feeling. It's the soul that you give it. If you can't feel the soul of today's music-- I've said it before and I'll say it again-- GO MAKE YOUR OWN AND PUT IT OUT.
Hear Hear!!
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silver
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 06:04:02
I'm going to have to start a no flaming rule.
Don't flame people, don't 0wn people, just post...
The picture in the forums are funny but they piss people off, so just use them wisely.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 07:17:57
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Originally posted by silver:
I'm going to have to start a no flaming rule.
Don't flame people, don't 0wn people, just post...
The picture in the forums are funny but they piss people off, so just use them wisely.
I hear and obey.
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 07:24:00
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Originally posted by ryg0r:
I hear and obey.
Thats like an exact quote from RA2 "Yuri's Revenge" :D
*cough* *cough* Sorry, had a nostalgic moment there, carry on...
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clarke101
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 09:01:43
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Originally posted by ryg0r:
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Originally posted by Kryptic:
correct me if I am wrong but, isn't there more fans of hardcore now then there ever was?
Quoted for freakin absolute truth.
That made me chuckle thanks 
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Evel
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Posted - 2005/10/24 : 10:48:46
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Originally posted by Kryptic:
correct me if I am wrong but, isn't there more fans of hardcore now then there ever was? People are still buying lots of hardcore stuff, now even commericals for some of it. I think now is the time for hardcore if ever. B and S and SB and all those most be doing something right.
People are more aware of hardcore now but alot of people just think it is a 'better' version of club music and a lot of people I know are listening to new skool then they listen to some old skool and think that the odler hardcore was far more better and original than any new skool and a lot of people are asking about old skool and how amazing it is and turning away from new skool once they have heard it
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