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MaGiC_MuShRooM
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 Posted - 2006/01/24 : 10:11:45
okay so i had my first time on decks like a week ago...around about, and i can pretty much beatmatch most of the time my only problem is it takes me a while to get it in time, like 2 minutes or so and sometimes i cut it really close with timing and where im cueing the next track. Also another problem i have is that the beat of the song im mixing will stay in time for like between 8-16 bars or even more and just when im about to mix, will come out of time. Is there something im doing wrong or is there some trick to it i dotn know about? any help would be appreciated
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Loz_e
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 10:32:40
i have been mixing for about a year now. Just got some CDJs and i love them!! i taught myself how to beatmatch, had no one to help me so i struggled to get the hang of it.
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If you have 2 tracks and they are staying in matched for the majority of the time and then they start to fall apart, the tempo of the track you are mixing in is a little off.
Say you had 2 tracks that are completly different BPMs .Then they will fall apart quicker.
Iif you have 2 tracks that are similar BPMs but one is a tad faster/slower than the other one, they will slowly drift apart, then the track you are mixing in in a little to fast/slow.
I am sh*t at explaining things so sorry if it doesnt make sense, and i aint the most experienced person so if i got it wrong iam sure someone will correct me sooner or later!
Hope it helps pal!
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clarke101
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 11:14:38
Practice practice oh and some more practice.
If your tracks are nearly in time then they can appear to be matched then slowly drift out of time.
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DJDURSTAN
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 12:33:59
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Originally posted by clarke101:
Practice practice oh and some more practice.
If your tracks are nearly in time then they can appear to be matched then slowly drift out of time.
Exactly PRACTICE is the key. I've been mixing for 9 years now and i still get moments where a tune is in time for 2 minutes and then will drift . It's sods law at the end of the day just keep practising.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 13:14:54
If it's only driting after a while, then the key is learning how to slightly adjust the tempo of one of the records. If it's only matching for a few seconds then either the bpm's arn't matched properly, of the bpm's of the records change.
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Glen
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 14:59:11
If you dont mind forking out A£15.00 for a book then I have to recommend a book called 'How to DJ: The Art and Science of Playing Records' It explains every aspect of DJing, the technical side and the mental side, even how to get gids and look for records etc. A guy on here (Baldo) recommended it to me and its defo worth it.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0593049667/qid=1138114640/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/026-6227902-9008468
If your interested mate.
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MaGiC_MuShRooM
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 15:21:01
what i really wanna know is if theres something i have to do or will i naturally learn how to to it perfectly if i keep at it? and if i do naturally learn how long does it take someone? honestly i dont mind how long it takes djing is quickly becoming the thing i live for... i mean ive only been going for a week and i can beatmatch close enough for about 16 bars or so... am i learning pretty slow or what?
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Kryptic
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 15:27:09
Practice, Practice, Practice. When I started I couldn't get the beatmatched until the whole song was over, it was bad. The key to beatmatching is knowing your songs very well. If you can beatmatch atleast for alittle then when your in the mix put the headphones on and you have to learn to seperate both songs in your head to see which one is going faster/slower. Flip back and forth with your cue fader to see which on is goin faster/slower then it is all a matter of pitch shifting it until you get it the right tempo. Remember you will usually always have to mess with the pitch during the blend alittle if you have a long blend inbetween song because turntables can't completely hold a beat 100% perfect.
You are learning really quick because most people don't get the hang of beatmatching until about 3-4 months later. It took me close to 6 months before I got kinda good with beatmatching and eqing. What are you djing? harcore? Hardcore I found to be one the easiest things to beatmatch and mix since alot of the new stuff is reletively the same bpm.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/01/24 : 22:29:11
grab a couple tunes that are roughly in the same bpm and work with them over and over till you get sick of them =P
also when you are starting mixing only mess with the record you are bringing in (as far as speeding up/slowing down). otherwise you'll just get confused as to which beat you're hearing.
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MaGiC_MuShRooM
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Posted - 2006/01/25 : 03:43:57
yeah if im listening to the track im mixing in the headphones then i can tell which is going faster/slower and i can adjust it accordingly i just cant get it EXACTLY right... and im djing hardcore and old skool hardcore... old skool is a lot harder.
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Leelo1
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Posted - 2006/01/25 : 08:32:02
beatmatchin afta a week thats cool man i bin at it for 3 years an sumtimes **** up! u will fuk up an u will ALOT but tape it an learn were u went wrong dont start thinkin its good str8 away cos every1 does that (I MEAN EVERYONE) then ull learn how shit u where (not implying ure shit m8 jus ull be more advance than b4 ) hope that makes sum sense m8 !
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DJApollyon
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Posted - 2006/01/25 : 22:54:33
its easy to get started beatmatching, think it only took me a couple of days for my first one but like yours it was going out of sync and generall clanging. but getting the timing perfect is a matter of practice im afaid. im still clanging now after 3/4 years (i cant for the life of me remember when i started). you end up tuning your mind/ear to what you're looking for and the same goes for production.
no secret to it, mostly practice and those who have a starting knack for it (not me though)
my problem for the last couple of years has been that ive been so used to knocking the record mid-mix that im knocking it even when it doesnt need it doing. once in a blue moon it results in a clang and me gettin pissed off :(
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TENTUN
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Posted - 2006/01/26 : 00:17:25
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
Practice practice oh and some more practice.
If your tracks are nearly in time then they can appear to be matched then slowly drift out of time.
Uh-huh...100% practice...I started learning how to mix with an old hi-fi that had 1 audio input....into that i plugged a crap turntable and another tape player, so that you could hear them both.........it's all about t he practice.....by any means neccasery!!!!!
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