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Evel
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 Posted - 2006/03/06 : 17:43:34
Who thinks Hardcore changes too much. In 1999 it sounded so different to what it did in 1996, and in 96 it soudned different to 1993 and listen to most mainstream Hardcore now! Somtimes times move too quiek!
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jenks
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 Posted - 2006/03/06 : 17:51:35
I think the reason it 'died' is because it started to evolve to slow, or didn't evolve at all... Suppose you notice it more when you research and start listening to music from different years, but I suppose when you've lived through the changes it doesn't seem too bad... The problem is, if the music doesn't evolve enough it wil go stale and people will lose interest...
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Fishy
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Posted - 2006/03/06 : 19:27:50
Change is good! u got great wide range of music too chose from hardcore 
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Da Cunney Bugz
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Posted - 2006/03/06 : 19:31:25
was it you evel who posted the when will hardcore die topic?
just leave it be, everything is fine and dandy!
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Evel
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Posted - 2006/03/06 : 20:33:58
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Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
was it you evel who posted the when will hardcore die topic?
Yes it was me who posted it and no I don't want Hardcore to die, i'm just saying don't let it evolve intop something it shouldn't (IE- club music)
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gobbo23
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Posted - 2006/03/06 : 23:49:39
firstly wtf is "quiek"?
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The Doc
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Posted - 2006/03/07 : 00:06:00
I've listened to all forms of Hardcore for many years and don't think the music has changed much at all! production and technology is obviously better now! but tunage wise whats different? Can someone tell me a track now that sounds totally different to anything made in the past!
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Blue Frequency
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Posted - 2006/03/07 : 00:20:25
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i'm just saying don't let it evolve intop something it shouldn't (IE- club music)
Too late. Everything in life will have it's cheap commercial knock-off. Nothing will ever remain pure. It's this sought after purity that causes conflict. Why try to hide it? I figure we all got into 'Ardcore because there was something "more" to it. Like everything else, after awhile people forget why they got started and the message/feeling/mindstate becomes lost or warped. What we need to do is not worry about what 90% of the world is doing. We need to worry about what we are doing and what kind of people are being. If we get into the mindset of "oh you heard the cheap commercial knock-off, you aren't hardcore" then we could miss out on some incredible people or some incredible inspiration.
Don't wear Hardcore like a badge; it's not a statement or a way to elevate you above another. Hardcore is music, Hardcore is a feeling, Hardcore is meant to be shared.
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---This isn't an attack on you Evel, it's just an over-all observation I've made over the time I've been here---
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Eden
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Posted - 2006/03/08 : 17:48:51
"eden" i think that some dj is cooking up somthing what i dont no but its going to be soon be prepard
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/03/08 : 18:13:22
Huh?
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Eden
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 09:58:28
dont u think that some dj like scott brown is hanging back to lash out with new sounds and be nowtist agane hes already relysed evolved so u now hes just behined something
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Angel of Avalon
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 11:19:19
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Originally posted by Blue Frequency:
Don't wear Hardcore like a badge; it's not a statement or a way to elevate you above another. Hardcore is music, Hardcore is a feeling, Hardcore is meant to be shared.
PLUR!!
---This isn't an attack on you Evel, it's just an over-all observation I've made over the time I've been here---
I partially agree, maybe because I'm dutch, maybe because I am not really into HHC UK from the beginning...
When "Oldskool gabber" first was made over here. It was a statment, one to wich the oldskool still belongs. It was a way to make a UNITED STATEMENT against high society's way how they treated the "middle and lower working class". I still belong to that group  I don't want to be average, just a face in the crowd... Hardcore makes me forget that I am, makes me FEEL like I belong somewhere.
True Hardcore is a feeling, it's more then that it's a WAY OF LIFE. It says: Don't let people kick you down, because you are not what society wants.
It's about friends, respecting eachother, belonging to something that is indeed shared...
To bad that the kids who are getting into the raves scene don't see this that way anymore...
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Eden
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 17:36:13
i can toterly agry what u sed there and i think that the events thay do now i think is a wast ov time the so called ravers dont think that the music that thay are givern thay are puting it down thay all proberly just want to be herad on the tape packs dont u agry angel the ravers toterly disriespect the intier hardcore seen
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Angel of Avalon
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 17:51:33
Well, partially.. I've met true gabber and they are still 19...
But they live and breath hardcore as we once did and some of us still do...
It's just that respect is a great issue in the Gabber scene, and the younger raver don't know the meaning of that word. Trust me, they are not all like that.
There are plannes to throw our own rave, where there will be looked at AGE, DRESSCODE and PILLZ... I've even gotten hold on some information about the drugstand where you can test it for free...
It will be totally oldskool gabber, slowly progressing to Hardcore, with a lot of UK styles like breakbeatz
To bad that's going to take up to two years to arrange 
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Evel
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 18:56:27
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I've listened to all forms of Hardcore for many years and don't think the music has changed much at all! production and technology is obviously better now! but tunage wise whats different? Can someone tell me a track now that sounds totally different to anything made in the past!
Listen to Hixxy's mix on lets say, Bonkers 15 and compare it to what you would here on, lets say Bonkers 1. Now that's a 9/10 year difference, the speed has slowed down and as I usally mention, the beats on most (but not all) Mainstream Hardcore have become weak...
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/03/09 : 19:28:22
Bonkers 1 is played at a slower bpm than Bonkers 15, bad choice Evel :p
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