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Djeasy2006
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 Posted - 2006/06/14 : 13:00:04
say if i make a hardcore tune, how do u get it released i mean do u have to send it to every label till some one says yer or what, never really understood how it works.
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Chwhynny
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 14:21:52
Send a demo to labels that release tunes of a similar style to yours. Perhaps start with the smaller labels and work your way up. Always ask for feedback.
Don't send full quality tracks to just anyone! For instance, you could send clips of your tunes in a low bitrate first, and if they show interest, you can send the full track.
Also, the FIRST thing to do when you've completed a tune is... Send the finished track mastered and unmastered with all samples and source files in a sealed envelope to yourself with registered mail BEFORE sending anything to anyone. This will confirm the date of production and the fact that you've created it.
EDIT: Do not open the package you've sent to yourself, obviously, for that will break the seal. ;)
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Edited by - Chwhynny on 2006/06/14 14:26:18 |
Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 14:41:10
....and also write the name of the track somewhere on the package.
We've got a few and can't remember what's in them ....doh!
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 14:41:12
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Originally posted by Chwhynny:
Also, the FIRST thing to do when you've completed a tune is... Send the finished track mastered and unmastered with all samples and source files in a sealed envelope to yourself with registered mail BEFORE sending anything to anyone. This will confirm the date of production and the fact that you've created it.
EDIT: Do not open the package you've sent to yourself, obviously, for that will break the seal. ;)
Wouldn't stand up in court :P Is no more proof than showing the dates on the files stored on your computer as it's just as easy to fake.
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simps
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 20:46:26
what type of software is the best for making hardcore?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 23:00:01
I use Fisher Price.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 23:05:35
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I use Fisher Price.
Woooahhhh, get DMS!! Thats far to complex & up market for me, I tend to use toilet paper to write my tracks on.
Much easier to use, and easier to get hold of.
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 23:09:08
But if you get short and need a poo - one wipe later that's all your hard work down the toilet!
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 23:11:38
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Mortis
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Posted - 2006/06/14 : 23:17:25
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But if you get short and need a poo - one wipe later that's all your hard work down the toilet!
I'm not so stupid as to have the same paper for my hard work & my music. I use the charmin for my number two's, and save the good stuff for my tunes...tesco value all the way!!!
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Chwhynny
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 08:25:37
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
quote:
Originally posted by Chwhynny:
Also, the FIRST thing to do when you've completed a tune is... Send the finished track mastered and unmastered with all samples and source files in a sealed envelope to yourself with registered mail BEFORE sending anything to anyone. This will confirm the date of production and the fact that you've created it.
EDIT: Do not open the package you've sent to yourself, obviously, for that will break the seal. ;)
Wouldn't stand up in court :P Is no more proof than showing the dates on the files stored on your computer as it's just as easy to fake.
You can never prove you WROTE something, you can only prove you had it at a certain date (i.e. that you had it before anyone else). File dates can be faked yes, that's why it's being sent through registered mail, in which case the stamp proves the date. :P
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 10:03:45
I think you've missed my point.
My point was that this can just as easily be faked :P If someone makes a habit of stealing tracks all they have to do is send themselves a load of unsealed envelops through the post, they can then place a track in there that was made by someone else 2 years on, seal it and say "Look this proves I made it, I have it here in this sealed, date stamped envelope that I posted to myself two years ago!".
I know the chances of someone doing this are slim but the fact that it can be faked (& there is prob. loads of other ways to fake it too!) make it unreliable evidence, about as unreliable as dated files on a hard drive...
Pointless argument anyway... What small time hardcore producers have the money to take someone to court ;)
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Chwhynny
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 12:31:01
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
I think you've missed my point.
My point was that this can just as easily be faked :P If someone makes a habit of stealing tracks all they have to do is send themselves a load of unsealed envelops through the post, they can then place a track in there that was made by someone else 2 years on, seal it and say "Look this proves I made it, I have it here in this sealed, date stamped envelope that I posted to myself two years ago!".
I know the chances of someone doing this are slim but the fact that it can be faked (& there is prob. loads of other ways to fake it too!) make it unreliable evidence, about as unreliable as dated files on a hard drive...
Pointless argument anyway... What small time hardcore producers have the money to take someone to court ;)
In Holland ALL registered mail has to be sealed, so you wouldn't be able to send yourself an envelope to put the CD in later. I don't know about the UK, though.
Also, how on earth could they have all the source files if you send someone just the full track? Yes, they could hack you (unlikely) or they could recreate the track from scratch (which would probably take longer and require more skill than producing a track of their own). Those new source files are never going to be identical to the original source files if created by ear from the full track.
The CD you send to yourself should contain the full track in 24-bit .wav unmastered, and mastered (if you have that), and all source files and samples.
If you have got ALL original source files and samples, contained within a sealed envelope with a date on it, and the other person has the full track but no source files, no identical samples, or if they only have unidentical recreated ones, they are going to look very stupid, court or no court.
If someone has your full track in .wav, they could fileshare, they could release it without your consent, or they could claim it to be their own work. You can try to deal with the latter by doing as I said.
I've had to deal with people ripping my ideas from work in progress clips (which I now only show to people I trust), putting my tunes on their website with their name on it, or putting them on P2P networks with their name on it. I've even had to deal with some gimp threatening to sue me for releasing "his" tunes...
I know what I'm talking about. If you've got all source files sorted and know what you're doing, they'll probably back off. They did in my case.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 13:21:44
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Originally posted by Chwhynny:
I've had to deal with people ripping my ideas from work in progress clips (which I now only show to people I trust), putting my tunes on their website with their name on it, or putting them on P2P networks with their name on it. I've even had to deal with some gimp threatening to sue me for releasing "his" tunes...
Harsh.
Yeah OK I see your point.
Thing is... If they're going to look very stupid for not having identical samples etc, they're still going to look very stupid for it regardless of whether you sent them to yourself or not. I don't know if legally all envelopes do need to be sealed in the UK but I can tell you now that you could get them through unsealed without a problem, which leads me to believe it wouldn't be allot of help. I suppose the more evidence (even if it's not solid) the better though.
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Chwhynny
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 15:36:30
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Chwhynny:
I've had to deal with people ripping my ideas from work in progress clips (which I now only show to people I trust), putting my tunes on their website with their name on it, or putting them on P2P networks with their name on it. I've even had to deal with some gimp threatening to sue me for releasing "his" tunes...
Harsh.
Heh, it's what you get for distributing your tunes for free, I suppose. They were meant to be shared (that's why I uploaded them in the first place) but not with someone else's name in the credits / title. ;)
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Posted - 2006/06/15 : 16:26:28
It's sad, you try and do something nice and it gets shoved back in your face :(
It's hard to believe there is people that would do stuff like that... What satisfaction can they get from taking credit for other peoples work? Must be proper nut jobs.
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