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Hardcore4eva
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Got Pioneer 6x9's, sub, amp and wiring kit for bday!

help would be very welcomed with setting this up! l

Websites etc......

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Posted - 2006/10/09 :  14:20:04  Show profile  Send a private message
If you bought it from larger place like halfords they'll fit it for you, other than that i have no idea, or maybe pay for someone install it?

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best asking here for a bit of help

http://www.maxpower.co.uk/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=37




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quote:
Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
If you bought it from larger place like halfords they'll fit it for you, other than that i have no idea, or maybe pay for someone install it?



Just wanna try n save some cash!


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Meh you don't need a website...

First of all if you must fit 6X9's... I'm guessing that you do as you already have them ;) Either get a proper shelf or at least reinforce the one you have as it will likely bend and eventually snap in two or fall into the boot.

For the Sub/Amp/Head unit cables:

Power cable goes through the small hole in the back of the engine bay, plug in head unit, grab cables from head unit & the power cable and run under the passenger carpet, under the seal of the door, over the wheel arch and into the boot (that's on a 3 door obv'). Wire up. Simple as that.

I would advise you strap down your sub unless you want it flying through your window if you crash.

If you still need more info try the max power website it will have a link at least I would have thought.


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quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
Meh you don't need a website...

First of all if you must fit 6X9's... I'm guessing that you do as you already have them ;) Either get a proper shelf or at least reinforce the one you have as it will likely bend and eventually snap in two or fall into the boot.

For the Sub/Amp/Head unit cables:

Power cable goes through the small hole in the back of the engine bay, plug in head unit, grab cables from head unit & the power cable and run under the passenger carpet, under the seal of the door, over the wheel arch and into the boot (that's on a 3 door obv'). Wire up. Simple as that.

I would advise you strap down your sub unless you want it flying through your window if you crash.

If you still need more info try the max power website it will have a link at least I would have thought.




yea i know thats how u do it but looking at my wiring kit its just a load of wires to me, which wire goes where! lol


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ill do u a diagram, back in 5!



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infact, a diagram wouldnt explain much at all, so...

Red wire (big thick thing with a fuse about 1 metre from one end)

This goes under your bonnet, you want the end of the wire that the fuse is closet to under the bonnet. then you need to somehow get the other end into the boot, this is the hardest bit, it can sometimes take a good hour to find a route for it to go, best bet is to try and follow where other cables go into the footwell and follow that route. when you have the wire in the boot (you could actually fit it under a seat but its best to have it out the way in the boot) you want it connected to the + Positive or Live connector. (REMEMBER TO REMOVE THE FUSE BEFORE ALL OF THIS, YOU DONT WANT TO BE WAVING A LIVE WIRE ABOUT TILL EVERYTHING IS WIRED IN AND COMPLETE)


Aux / Phono cables (usually blue, they are the ones that you would use to connect a mixer to an amp)

One end of these need to go into the back of your Head Unit, make sure you match up the red and white correctly, then you need to get these wires into the boot, easiest way is to follow the route of the power cable, though some say you can loose quality having the power and aux cables together, so if you want to take your time and do it 100% you want to run the cables down the opposite side of the car to the power cable.


Blue cable (Very thin cable)

you need to find a remote live on the back of your Head Unit, this is what turns the amp on when the headunit is on, and turns it off when your Headunit is off so it doesnt drain your battery. you can use the antenna cable from your wiring harness (the one that sends a signal on posh cars to make the arial go up and down when you turn the ignition on or off. failing finding any of these wires, you could always take a power feed off your cigarette lighter (if it only works when your ignition is on, or you could take a feed from this and fit a switch..)
this can then be layed down the same side as the power cable (if you are laying them down both sides of the car, otherwise it doesnt matter) it should be clearly marked on your amp where to fit the wire (remote, or something along them lines, check the manual)


Black Cable (Fairly thick, similar size to the red cable)

This is your earth, it will probably be a fairly short wire so just find a screw in the boot, remove the paint around it so it will be metal on metal (else it might not work) and screw it down, the connect to the amp


Speaker cables

find the output for the amp, chances are you are going to bridge to get more power if you only have one sub, if you have two subs then you will be using both channels seperatly.
For Bridged, put the negative on the left channel, and the positive on the right channel, this will give you double the power because you are only using one sub, but make sure you sub can handle the power of your amp once bridged. also, make sure you keep positive from the amp to positive on the sub, same for negative, if you dont you can loose sound quality
if you are running two subs off one amp, have the positive on the left channel going to the positive on the first sub, then the negative on the left channel to the negative on the first sub, and the same again for the second sub. Set the Volume of the sub to about half way, you dont want to damage your knickers or your new gear :P . aswell as that, before you replace the fuse, turn on the ignition and make sure the volume on your headunit is low, again so u dnt shit urself or damage anything.


Once you have got this far, you need to make sure all the cables are tight and in place along with your sub, then go to the bonnet and replace the fuse you took out of the Red Live wire at the beginning, now go into your car, turn on the ignition, turn on your headunit and start cranking it up untill you can hear the sub working, then go check everything seems in order. if it is, start setting the levels on the sub to match your speakers, you dont want it that loud its drowning out you 6 x 9's or too quiet so you cant hear it. Just a point id like to add, 6 x 9's arnt a very good style of speaker, they were made to give good bass mid and high response, but in giving them bass, the mids and highs are pretty significantly affected, and seen as you are fitting a sub, you dont need the extra bass, if its not too late id switch to some cone shaped speakers, i guarentee you will get a lot better sound quality doing this :)


Hope i aint babbled on too much there, if there is anything i missed out give me a shout, and good luck


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Looks like Jaxon's got you sorted :)

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Originally posted by DJ_JaXoN:
Just a point id like to add, 6 x 9's arnt a very good style of speaker, they were made to give good bass mid and high response, but in giving them bass, the mids and highs are pretty significantly affected, and seen as you are fitting a sub, you dont need the extra bass, if its not too late id switch to some cone shaped speakers, i guarentee you will get a lot better sound quality doing this :)





100% Agree. 6x9's are only really worth putting in if you aren't gonna bother with a sub.



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Nice one Jaxon!!

Im sure it will help alot! I hear what your saying about the 6x9's, got them from ma sister as my 18th bday prezzie so bit hard to replace now i think. Will see what happends!

Thanks again people!


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